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Puck 03-15-2018 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 59491)
How many times has an elite pass rush won a championship? I can think of three off the top of my head.

The Pats seem to win about every yr or every other yr..... who are their premier pass rushers? Where were they drafted?

Dam8610 03-16-2018 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 59508)
The Pats seem to win about every yr or every other yr..... who are their premier pass rushers? Where were they drafted?

I'm not willing to accept cheating, so I'll go for the elite pass rush instead.

Puck 03-16-2018 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 59514)
I'm not willing to accept cheating, so I'll go for the elite pass rush instead.


Come on man. That's a cop out. You're better than that.

ukcolt 03-16-2018 05:02 AM

We have a lot of holes that need to be addressed, we have a lot of cap space sure. Some of you are advocating splashing out high salaries on a few guys, which is great in theory, but if they then fail in a new system (this happens all of the time) you are completely hamstrung. Also your impact signings get injured and you are back to square one, and have used up all of the cap space that you are now unable to play even a remotely competent backup.

In my eyes, if we can get to NFL average at almost every position through this free agency period and the draft, and provide considerably more depth throughout the roster that is going to make us far more consistently competitive in the long run. And will be proven to be the best solution when looked at in 3 or 4 years time.

Would i like to see the Colts making a few more signings sure of course, i am a fan and it is exciting and they will over the next few weeks, but with the reality head on i am fine in the approach that Ballard is taking and believe that he has proven to be an excellent judge of talent so far in his career and is one of the most highly sought after personnel guys around.

We really could do with upgrading 15-20 positions on this roster, not just 7 or 8.

QB's are probably fine, so long as Luck is healthy we don't carry 3 guys.
RB's we need at least 1 guy, although both Jones and Michael could be nice compliments if they are healthy.
TE's, we have Doyle, then 2 largely unproven guys who have a lot of intrigue, but might very well decide to upgrade here.
WR's, we have 2 guys, so could very easily be looking at 3 new players.
OL, we have some bodies, but every single guy has some questions against him, Kelly has struggled with injuries, Castonzo's play has been solid, but not at the level it was a few years ago, and the rest are borderline starter quality or significantly below. 3 guys or even 4 wouldn't be a huge surprise.

DL, we are pretty solid here other than the obvious pure out and out pass rusher. So may very well add 1.
LB, we probably have 3 guys who deserve to be on the roster in Simon, George and Walker the rest are all in danger of failing to play another down in the NFL. So adding 3 or 4 guys here wouldn't be a stretch.
CB's, currently have an inexperienced Wilson, and then Hairston in the nickle, all others need to be upgraded, so again you could be adding 3 guys here.
S, we have 2 guys who are both big health concerns, and then a third who has proven to be solid, will likely look to add 1 other into the mix.

Racehorse 03-16-2018 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 59491)
How many times has an elite pass rush won a championship? I can think of three off the top of my head.

Just in the past 15 years, because before then, it was not a passing league, but a running league. Manning changed all of that. In a passing league, you have to be able to do both: keep the QB upright and get the opponents' QBs down.

Dam8610 03-16-2018 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 59516)
Come on man. That's a cop out. You're better than that.

That's not a cop out, they're cheaters and their cheating has effected their results in a positive manner. I don't believe they would've won a championship without it.

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 59531)
Just in the past 15 years, because before then, it was not a passing league, but a running league. Manning changed all of that. In a passing league, you have to be able to do both: keep the QB upright and get the opponents' QBs down.

We're dealing with the modern NFL, so pass rush is the second most important position to deal with, and the QB position is already dealt with.

FatDT 03-16-2018 10:01 AM

How long are you all expecting this "rebuild" to take? I keep reading on the internet (not necessarily here) that we're only just starting year 2 of a 3 year rebuild. To me that is crazy, we already have a QB. 3 year rebuilds are for teams that don't have a QB. Teams turn it around every year. Eagles, Jags, and Rams last season alone are good examples. If we have the QB and the coaching staff, which we're assuming we do, why be slow to acquire good, young talent? Being deliberate for the sake of being deliberate doesn't sound like a wise NFL strategy.

Brylok 03-16-2018 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 59544)
How long are you all expecting this "rebuild" to take? I keep reading on the internet (not necessarily here) that we're only just starting year 2 of a 3 year rebuild. To me that is crazy, we already have a QB. 3 year rebuilds are for teams that don't have a QB. Teams turn it around every year. Eagles, Jags, and Rams last season alone are good examples. If we have the QB and the coaching staff, which we're assuming we do, why be slow to acquire good, young talent? Being deliberate for the sake of being deliberate doesn't sound like a wise NFL strategy.

With a healthy Luck, competent drafting and free agency, I figure we'll be competing for a super bowl in 2020.

Dam8610 03-16-2018 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 59544)
How long are you all expecting this "rebuild" to take? I keep reading on the internet (not necessarily here) that we're only just starting year 2 of a 3 year rebuild. To me that is crazy, we already have a QB. 3 year rebuilds are for teams that don't have a QB. Teams turn it around every year. Eagles, Jags, and Rams last season alone are good examples. If we have the QB and the coaching staff, which we're assuming we do, why be slow to acquire good, young talent? Being deliberate for the sake of being deliberate doesn't sound like a wise NFL strategy.

Depends on what is done. With the right guys coming in, winning the division wouldn't be out of the question this year with the potential for Super Bowl aspirations next year.

njcoltfan 03-16-2018 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 59544)
How long are you all expecting this "rebuild" to take? I keep reading on the internet (not necessarily here) that we're only just starting year 2 of a 3 year rebuild. To me that is crazy, we already have a QB. 3 year rebuilds are for teams that don't have a QB. Teams turn it around every year. Eagles, Jags, and Rams last season alone are good examples. If we have the QB and the coaching staff, which we're assuming we do, why be slow to acquire good, young talent? Being deliberate for the sake of being deliberate doesn't sound like a wise NFL strategy.

I definitely agree Fat, the Colts were leading a half in 9 games last year in spite of Pagano and a backup QB. I thought that if Ballard brought in a few select free agents like an all pro guard, maybe a run stopping linebacker or two and a wide receiver, with a healthy Luck the Colts would contend for the AFC South. I think because Ballard apparently thinks this is a three year rebuild, it will be. The rest of the teams in the south have gotten better, and because the Colts seem to be sitting on their hands they ,by comparison, have gotten worse.


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