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Colts And Orioles 08-20-2025 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 326633)




I have NEVER had this much contempt for two people as I have for Ballard and Steichen.






When Jonathan Taylor dropped the ball at the goal-line last year, you wanted him immediately cut from the team.


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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 315170)



Fuck suspensionn ...... CUT that MOTHER-FUCKER !!! You cannot in any way excuse that shit away, you fucking send a message and you cut the fucking player that does that shit !!!

Fuck that, fuck, fuck, fuck that !!! This is the type of shit that you MUST put the spotlight on and get shit cleaned up. Fuck him !!! Could very likely be the play that costs you the playoffs ...... FUCK THAT, GET HIM OFF OF MY TEAM !!!






And when asked whom should replace him with, you said that it didn't matter, and that you didn't care.


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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 315217)



The hair around my asshole, in other words, I don't give a fuck, just not him !!! How in the fuck are so many people on this board so willing to accept and even laude mediocrity just because the logo on the helmet ??? He is likely going to cost us a playoff birth because he fucking made a stupid fucking play...... fuck him !!!






Your resentment toward almost anything and everything that ever goes wrong for the Colts knows no limits, and no bounds ...... your rage is equally spewed for all of them, whether it's a current player, a former player, a head coach, an assistant coach, or the guy selling soda in the upper deck of Lucas Oil Stadium.

o

apballin 08-20-2025 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 326621)
I mean, if the time is now, why not get a QB that's much better than Daniel Jones. Like go after Geno Smith or Justin Fields or someone. Hell, I'd rather them have got Drew Lock. Or why not at least go after a QB in the 2nd round of the draft or so.

Maybe Jones will prove me wrong. God I'm hoping he does, I want something to root for this year. But the Colts don't feel special enough to do a lot with just mediocre QB play, and it's hard to envision Jones being better than that. Hell, he got benched for Tommy DeVito in his career.

Richardson may give you horrible QB play. In fact, the odds are he probably will. But I'd rather roll the dice on the off chance you hit snakeyes and he goes out there and throws 60 yard bombs to players or runs for 200 yards a game.

Had to be a QB that wanted to sign here, Fields didn’t wanna take ARs job. Fields was also a gamble, what’s he ever won on the NFL?

IndyNorm 08-20-2025 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 326624)
To quote Bill Parcells, "You lose with potential, you win with performance".

The best one from Parcells is, "Potential means you haven't done anything yet".

Point taken, but when has Jones actually performed well?

IndyNorm 08-20-2025 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 326637)
No other QB in football plays like Steichen had AR playing those first years. A combination of rb/qb with plays called where AR actually is the primary running back where you guarantee he gets hit. Running backs do not have the mindset of protecting themselves. It must be tough to switch that on and off, impossible for an inexperienced dude. The more you get hit, the greater the chance you get hurt.

And since when has this Jones guy been this consistent precise QB? If he was he would still be in NY.

It's not typical, but AR isn't the only QB whose been used like that. Lamar Jackson has averaged 9.8 carries/game, Hurts 8.8, and AR 7.4.

Butter 08-20-2025 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 326628)
First time I've seen Nelson whine. It reminds me of Kelly. NBC



No indication here that he thinks it's the wrong decision, but for a guy that is usually all business and doesn't share much, I find his response curious. Perhaps even resentful?

I have a hard time considering that whining. He was asked a direct question, and he answered it honestly.

ChoppedWood 08-20-2025 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 326640)
When Jonathan Taylor dropped the ball at the goal-line last year, you wanted him immediately cut from the team.






And when asked whom should replace him with, you said that it didn't matter, and that you didn't care.






Your resentment toward almost anything and everything that ever goes wrong for the Colts knows no limits, and no bounds ...... your rage is equally spewed for all of them, whether it's a current player, a former player, a head coach, an assistant coach, or the guy selling soda in the upper deck of Lucas Oil Stadium.

o

Yeah C&O, I deplore the appreciation and acceptance of mediocrity, and by God Chris Ballard is deserving of having that Manning statue smashed into pieces and a humongous fucking statue erected instead honoring his lifelong dedication to mediocrity put in its place. The dude is a piece of shit at his job and in turn the team is a piece of shit. Not my fault, I type on a message board and spend my money on this shit, his fucking lame ass gets paid to suck- crazy!

ChaosTheory 08-20-2025 04:55 PM

Film breakdown on how Jones outperformed AR:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1obpRS_Mz-M

Hoopsdoc 08-20-2025 05:07 PM

Will they trade AR?

ukcolt 08-20-2025 06:47 PM

I am not sure that Jones was the real problem with the Giants, they were just a truly terrible roster from top to bottom in his last few seasons. I don't think Mahomes would have been able to get that roster to above 500. I like Chris Simms and he is a massive Giants fan, he was always saying that Jones was a long way down the list of reasons why the Giants were so bad.

I am not saying Jones is some superstar QB, but he had no weapons besides Barkley, and an offensive line that could barely block against thin air.

I also believe that AR doesn't allow Steichen to run the playbook that is needed for the players on offense at our disposal. Tyler Warren looks like he is going to be a special player, but i am not so sure that AR is or will ever be able to utilise that skillset. He just can't read a defense properly and predict when players are about to become open, and throw in the middle of the field. He wants the players to be wide open before he throws the ball. He has very limited anticipation skills.

Pierce may very well take a hit as AR was good at the deep ball, but i think Jones will give a huge hike in the production of Downs and Pittman because his ball placement is just better, and will allow more RAC yardage.

In terms of being able to "win now" this is a no brainer of a decision to go with Jones and the Colts have a roster that when healthy, looks as if it could be fun to watch on both sides of the ball and should be competitive.

ukcolt 08-20-2025 06:53 PM

My biggest fear is our offensive line. It looks as if Braden Smith hasn't been his usual self. We are bedding in both Bortolini and Goncalves. If any of those three become an issue, where do we turn? If Smith struggles, do we shift Goncalves to tackle, and bring in Tucker, or do we go with the rookie 4th rounder. We are one injury or poor performance from it not really mattering who starts at QB.

I like the starting lineup on paper, but we are then relying on Tucker who really struggled and was benched for Glowinski, and then a rookie and Pinter as our next men up.


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