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Dam8610 04-05-2023 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 263150)
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Even more cool ...... Reggie Wayne, in similar fashion to Randy Moss in 2008, really made the difference in the Colts' 2011 season when they went 2-14 when Peyton Manning missed the entire season with an injury.

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Cassel was a better QB than Curtis Painter, and the Cheaters defense didn't fall apart, probably because Belicheat used extra cheating.

ChaosTheory 04-05-2023 08:57 PM

2011 Colts and 2008 Patriots had a lot more going on than just the quality of the backup QB's. Colts offensive system was unique to Manning, he goes down, you can't run what you know.

We had also gradually lost a lot of unsung but important guys like our interior OL and LB's. Even back to 2009, Manning and the passing O was carrying the team. Undefeated team that ranked bottom of the league in rushing, run defense, TOP... same in 2010, and then 2011 had no passing O to help.

Chris Polian was three years in and we had a bunch of younger, weaker players replacing.

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Meanwhile, the Patriots were one season removed from undefeated. Matt Cassel wasn't great but he wasn't trash. The main thing is that, yes, there was a downgrade in QB quality... but the Patriots offensive system didn't have to go back to formula when Brady went down.

Aside from QB, the little turnover they had included Richard fucking Seymour coming back and Roosevelt Colvin being replaced by top-10 draft pick Jerod Mayo. Their top-4 defense dropped to top-8.

The thing people tend to forget is that in 2009 when Brady came back... Patriots finished 10-6 with Brady, but that happened to be good enough for a division title unlike the 11-5 they posted with Cassel.

The only offensive change was adding Edelman and on defense they replaced Bruschi and Vrabel, but even Vrabel's replacement (Banta-Cain) had 10 sacks in 10 games and the defense was still 5th in scoring, 11th overall.

Colts And Orioles 04-05-2023 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 263167)



Cassel was a better QB than Curtis Painter, and the Cheaters defense didn't fall apart, probably because Belicheat used extra cheating.




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Cassell might have gone 4-12 with that Colts team, instead of 2-14.

You remind me of Colin Ferguson, the guy who killed 6 people shooting up the Long Island Railroad in 1993 who then defended himself in court. He didn't convince the jury of his innocence, but he himself believed it.

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CletusPyle 04-05-2023 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 263176)
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Cassell might have gone 4-12 with that Colts team, instead of 2-14.

You remind me of Colin Ferguson, the guy who killed 6 people shooting up the Long Island Railroad in 1993 who then defended himself in court. He didn't convince the jury of his innocence, but he himself believed it.

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apballin 04-06-2023 10:13 AM

Would be interesting to see 3 of the top 4 end up in the AFC south and have to battle each other

Brylok 04-06-2023 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 263190)
Would be interesting to see 3 of the top 4 end up in the AFC south and have to battle each other

If that happened, Trevor Lawrence would become the Peyton Manning of the division.

apballin 04-06-2023 04:46 PM

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If that happened, Trevor Lawrence would become the Peyton Manning of the division.

So you’re saying that’s what’s gonna happen?

Or you’re saying the Titans are better with Willis?

Because if that’s how you feel I don’t see how the draft is gonna change your outlook

IndyNorm 04-07-2023 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 263194)
If that happened, Trevor Lawrence would become the Peyton Manning of the division.

That's impossible. Right Dam?

JAFF 04-07-2023 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 263238)
That's impossible. Right Dam?

This is why we need a rimshot emoji

Dam8610 04-07-2023 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 263238)
That's impossible. Right Dam?

Anything is possible. I'm fairly confident that won't happen, and you really should hope I'm right unless you want a decade of Jaguars dominance. I don't.


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