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Dam8610 03-05-2022 12:41 PM

To me, the one free agent the Colts should pull out all the stops for is Terron Armstead. Get him and don't let him go anywhere else. Yes the Colts will have the most expensive OL but they will also have the most effective OL.

JAFF 03-05-2022 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 225059)
To me, the one free agent the Colts should pull out all the stops for is Terron Armstead. Get him and don't let him go anywhere else. Yes the Colts will have the most expensive OL but they will also have the most effective OL.

Not the worst idea. Long term solution, could play a young Qb back there giving him time.

ChaosTheory 03-05-2022 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 225059)
To me, the one free agent the Colts should pull out all the stops for is Terron Armstead. Get him and don't let him go anywhere else. Yes the Colts will have the most expensive OL but they will also have the most effective OL.

I like Armstead. But what would our cap hit for OL be? I'm assuming he'll be looking for Trent Williams money at least. And Nelson's going to have a monster contract upcoming. Like $65m for starting OL?

Butter 03-06-2022 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 225091)
I like Armstead. But what would our cap hit for OL be? I'm assuming he'll be looking for Trent Williams money at least. And Nelson's going to have a monster contract upcoming. Like $65m for starting OL?

Smart money is to trade Nelson for first+picks his huge contract as a guard is going to hurt the colts.

JAFF 03-06-2022 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 225096)
Smart money is to trade Nelson for first+picks his huge contract as a guard is going to hurt the colts.

Trading away the best player on the team? A guy who might get to Canton? You renegotiate his contract. Taylor will be less effective with a rookie at LG. If finding guys like Nelson was easy, everybody who have one.

Dam8610 03-06-2022 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 225091)
I like Armstead. But what would our cap hit for OL be? I'm assuming he'll be looking for Trent Williams money at least. And Nelson's going to have a monster contract upcoming. Like $65m for starting OL?

Yes, it would be a large chunk of the cap, probably closer to $80 million, but it would also be the best OL in the NFL. All that cap money they're spending on OL now will be a waste if LT is a turnstile. If you're paying the premium, get the best, going cheap at the most important position and spending on everything else doesn't make sense.

ChaosTheory 03-06-2022 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 225113)
Yes, it would be a large chunk of the cap, probably closer to $80 million, but it would also be the best OL in the NFL. All that cap money they're spending on OL now will be a waste if LT is a turnstile. If you're paying the premium, get the best, going cheap at the most important position and spending on everything else doesn't make sense.

That's a tough one because I agree with the assessment. That OL would be a true weapon and I wouldn't complain. But that wouldn't just be the most expensive OL in the league... That would be $25m more than second place. It would awesome to have, though

By the way, where does $80m come from? I remember reading that if we gave Armstead $20m/yr we'd be at around $55m total. I'd assume he wants more. So then if Nelson gets a $20m+ salary, wouldn't that be around $65m-$70m?

Oldcolt 03-06-2022 02:26 PM

No no no on Armstead. and FUCK NO on trading Nelson. Christ does everyone forget the incredible change in this offensive line when Nelson became a part of it. At some point we need to find younger and cheaper alternative for this line, otherwise we will not have a well balanced team. I'm hoping we draft our new right guard (or use Pinter and draft a backup) to save money. I'm hoping for a one year contract for Fisher. I don't get the hate here. It was as if everyone thought we were getting a fully functional player 9 months after an Achilles. It was always made clear to me that coming all the way back from an Achilles injury is impossible the first year. You don't get your explosion or quickness back that fast. I felt that if he was just ok the first year (and I think he was, he was a monster in run blocking-all those who love JT should have been happy with this part of his play) we should stick with what I always thought was a two year plan with the guy. If the so called experts are correct we should see a big improvement in his pass blocking this year-a gamble but I think a reasonable one and one that wont break the bank. Ballard has been crap at getting defensive ends in the draft but has been excellent in finding offensive line talent in the draft. The long term answer should come via the draft in my opinion.

Voosh 03-06-2022 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 225096)
Smart money is to trade Nelson for first+picks his huge contract as a guard is going to hurt the colts.

I'm torn about Nelson. Paying a guard LT money is crazy, especially when we don't have a solid LT. I'm also concerned about his injuries this past season especially the back one which, if I remember correctly, has become a nagging one. That being said, they will most likely resign him. Ballard said that much in a recent interview.

Dam8610 03-06-2022 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 225117)
That's a tough one because I agree with the assessment. That OL would be a true weapon and I wouldn't complain. But that wouldn't just be the most expensive OL in the league... That would be $25m more than second place. It would awesome to have, though

By the way, where does $80m come from? I remember reading that if we gave Armstead $20m/yr we'd be at around $55m total. I'd assume he wants more. So then if Nelson gets a $20m+ salary, wouldn't that be around $65m-$70m?

I see, we're in the early years of Kelly's and Braden's deals, so the cap hit is much lower than the AAV, so yes it would be closer to the $65 million range.


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