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natagu23 04-24-2017 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 10495)
No offense to Bucky, but I think he was 1 out of 32 in last year's draft. Guy doesn't know much when it comes to the draft.

I was going mention something along those lines.

Chromeburn 04-24-2017 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 10419)
I'll trust Bill Polian on which drills are most important for a pass rusher. BP 3-cone is the telling drill, and in the 3-cone Barnett knocked it out of the park with a 6.96.

I don't think that Barnett will be either a bust or a star. His lack of pass rush moves is what's most disturbing. That can be coached, but it doesn't mean that he can develop those moves either.

Bottom line, give me Harris over Barnett, but I won't be pissed with a Barnett pick either.

That is true, and Polian has forgotten more about evaluating talent than many draft guru's combined. I would consider the 3-cone much more important than the 40. But you don't take that in a vacuum. You also work in the other drills and see how he does. They measure length, speed, burst, bend. Barnett just is not as athletic as some of the other guys. Now could he overcome that? Sure. But you are playing an odds game and the odds are against him. Rookies have a lot to overcome. I will say one thing in his favor is he has impeccable character. You will never have to worry about him off the field and he will always give you 100% in game and on the practice field.

Chromeburn 04-24-2017 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 10497)
I was going mention something along those lines.

Yeah, he is pretty bad. He might get more sacks, but he is also likely going to a better team. Garett will be doubled from day one.

YDFL Commish 04-24-2017 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 10498)
That is true, and Polian has forgotten more about evaluating talent than many draft guru's combined. I would consider the 3-cone much more important than the 40. But you don't take that in a vacuum. You also work in the other drills and see how he does. They measure length, speed, burst, bend. Barnett just is not as athletic as some of the other guys. Now could he overcome that? Sure. But you are playing an odds game and the odds are against him. Rookies have a lot to overcome. I will say one thing in his favor is he has impeccable character. You will never have to worry about him off the field and he will always give you 100% in game and on the practice field.

I'll fully admit that he's not as athletic as some of the other guys. But he didn't embarrass himself in any of the drills, and I believe in everything but the 40 was probably in the top 50 percentile for his position.

Chromeburn 04-24-2017 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 10501)
I'll fully admit that he's not as athletic as some of the other guys. But he didn't embarrass himself in any of the drills, and I believe in everything but the 40 was probably in the top 50 percentile for his position.

Is it where you feel a 1st rounder should be? I think he is a 2nd to 3rd, but will be drafted higher than that. Certainly not at 15.

Its that initial quickness where I see the biggest flag. That initial burst off the line is very important in the pros. You see a guy like Tim Williams who explodes off the line, I don't see it with Barnett. It's what made Mathis and Freenet so dangerous at the beginning of the careers.

VeveJones007 04-24-2017 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 10496)
I dont know about targeting Jones but getting a 2nd would be nice if it were any other team but the Texans.

Not helping those f**kers.

I would gladly take a 2nd from them to help them get one of these sorry QBs in this class.

Wyatt 04-25-2017 07:00 AM

@SportsCenter
Breaking: Michigan’s Jabrill Peppers tested positive for a diluted sample at the NFL scouting combine. (via @AdamSchefter)

Wyatt 04-25-2017 10:15 AM

Gareon Conley Hype Video
 
Put together by a reddit user, I wouldn't be dissapointed to see us get him at 1-15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFc9pnatlyM

Wyatt 04-25-2017 10:23 AM

Jarrad Davis anyone?

http://horseshoeheroes.com/2017/04/2...-jarrad-davis/

Coltsalr 04-25-2017 12:02 PM

In that regard, ESPN’s Todd McShay today wrote that the Colts could be the team that takes Alabama inside linebacker Reuben Foster.

One person I spoke to said the Indianapolis Colts could end up being the parachute pick for Foster at No. 15 overall, given how they're trying to overhaul the defensive side of the ball. If he doesn't go there, the Redskins two picks later could be in play.


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