Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 192669)

Trading our 3rd round pick had nothing to do with him passing on Darrisaw for a project DE. Also, the Browns gave up a 3rd but got Carolina's 4th in the deal to move up 7 spots. I'm sure we could have moved up 2 spots (or more to get Cosmi) despite us not having a 3rd this year.

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 192626)

Could've taken Teven at 21 and gotten Kwity at 54, probably.

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 192682)

Glad I decided to opt out of this crap tonight. More glad that Dam is still in melt down mode

I checked Colts.com to see who had the more ridicules posts. Its a toss up. Im disappointed in some of you for making it close.


In case some of you don't know. Ballard knows more than we do. Trust the process.

We went from a shit hole and a street pickup LT (playoffs) to a couple pass rushers from the AFCCG

I get it. Everyone has opinions. Just try to see the logic and mind set in this.

Ballard does not and will not draft for NEED. He says it ...he does it... One of these days you'll get that. It is ALWAYS BPA which is a winning mindset.

I have said many times that I dont expect a LT drafted when there are better players on the board. TBH. I thought CB or WR would be BPA at 54 and expected that pick.

We have a mobile QB now. Very comparable to Andrew Luck. Probably as close as we get without having the top pick in the draft this yr.

LT is important. BUT not at the expense of building a better TEAM

Ballard has a plan. trust it He's more right than anyone on here

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 192643)

I’m reading this and I’m reminded of Ghostbusters


Dr. Peter Venkman:
This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.

Mayor:
What do you mean, "biblical"?

Dr Ray Stantz:
What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath-of-God type stuff.

Dr. Peter Venkman:
Exactly.

Dr Ray Stantz:
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.

Dr. Egon Spengler:
Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes...

Winston Zeddemore:
The dead rising from the grave.

Dr. Peter Venkman:
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria.


Unpucker your a holes, it will be fine.

They will move Smith. Finding a RT isnt as hard. Hells bells play a TE on the right and run the ball and go RPO or just straight play action. This isnt Armafricken gedon

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 192628)

Yep feels a lot like our season last year, tried to get cute and botched the situation.

Replacing Costanzo was priority #1 yet we chose to replace Houston and Autry. Ballard tried to get cute this should’ve been a fuckin slam dunk

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 192617)

Dayo would have been a first-round pick if he wasn't hurt.

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 192657)

Actually for as good as Ballard has been at drafting overall, he's been really bad at drafting pass rushers. Basham was a wasted draft pick, Banogu looks to be the same, and Lewis has been average at best when he's not a healthy scratch. Turray looks to be ok if he can stay healthy and stop jumping offsides on 4th down. Hopefully this year's class will buck that trend, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 192682)

Glad I decided to opt out of this crap tonight. More glad that Dam is still in melt down mode

I checked Colts.com to see who had the more ridicules posts. Its a toss up. Im disappointed in some of you for making it close.


In case some of you don't know. Ballard knows more than we do. Trust the process.

We went from a shit hole and a street pickup LT (playoffs) to a couple pass rushers from the AFCCG

I get it. Everyone has opinions. Just try to see the logic and mind set in this.

Ballard does not and will not draft for NEED. He says it ...he does it... One of these days you'll get that. It is ALWAYS BPA which is a winning mindset.

I have said many times that I dont expect a LT drafted when there are better players on the board. TBH. I thought CB or WR would be BPA at 54 and expected that pick.

We have a mobile QB now. Very comparable to Andrew Luck. Probably as close as we get without having the top pick in the draft this yr.

LT is important. BUT not at the expense of building a better TEAM

Ballard has a plan. trust it He's more right than anyone on here

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 192672)

Even if we weren't able to move up (although again based on what the Browns did we should have been able to) we still could have picked Darrisaw and been done with the LT replacement, which is now a fucking mess.

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 192690)

Great post. LMAO.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 192699)

That only works if the Browns have the same # of picks over the next two years. The Colts have 2 picks to Philly if Wentz works out? And how he plays will will determine which round?

You are comparing two different Philosophies, picks and multiple years. You cant use Cleveland to justify what Ballard should do for Indy.. Ballard must take a long term view, not a yearly view.

Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 192697)

apparently you haven't watched Wentz play a lot !! When he starts getting hit he starts throwing to the wrong colored jerseys. I don't know why most posters think that Wentz is the next Luck.

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 192702)

And we all know that Luck getting hit a lot, which is what will happen with Wentz if the LT situation isn't fixed, worked out great :cool:

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 192703)

Maybe someone from the Indy Indians should come and give sliding lessons

Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 192696)

Does doubling down on DE mean he's given up on Banogo and Lewis,two of his worst draft picks ?

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 192682)

Glad I decided to opt out of this crap tonight. More glad that Dam is still in melt down mode

I checked Colts.com to see who had the more ridicules posts. Its a toss up. Im disappointed in some of you for making it close.


In case some of you don't know. Ballard knows more than we do. Trust the process.

We went from a shit hole and a street pickup LT (playoffs) to a couple pass rushers from the AFCCG

I get it. Everyone has opinions. Just try to see the logic and mind set in this.

Ballard does not and will not draft for NEED. He says it ...he does it... One of these days you'll get that. It is ALWAYS BPA which is a winning mindset.

I have said many times that I dont expect a LT drafted when there are better players on the board. TBH. I thought CB or WR would be BPA at 54 and expected that pick.

We have a mobile QB now. Very comparable to Andrew Luck. Probably as close as we get without having the top pick in the draft this yr.

LT is important. BUT not at the expense of building a better TEAM

Ballard has a plan. trust it He's more right than anyone on here

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 192714)

Exactly, and he knows that everyone thinks highly of him so he gets cute trying to look like super GM thinking he’s gotta outsmart every body or reach on players when our biggest need was obvious

I would’ve rather seen him go with 2 offensive lineman

And that BPA shit is bullshit that’s why he trades back so much

So after free agency and the draft we are the same team minus our starting LT, the only improvement he made was Wentz this team isn’t any better then last year

Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 192697)

apparently you haven't watched Wentz play a lot !! When he starts getting hit he starts throwing to the wrong colored jerseys. I don't know why most posters think that Wentz is the next Luck.

Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 192722)

I believe that Ballard didn't see any of the guys available in this draft as a long term answer at LT. He said that they were not prototypical LTs in this draft so I'm reading into that that they were not people he wants at LT for the next 10 years. He values line play, these lines are magnitudes better than when he took over. He is not planning on letting Wentz get killed and us losing ground on our run game. We should be happy we finally have a GM who not only has a philosophy (the lines are the most important thing on a team-both of them) and will actually live by it. If this works we will be a happy group long term. I trust him on this.

Originally Posted by CaliColtsFan (Post 192753)

Perhaps we should get Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney to come coach our young pass rushers...💙

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 192682)

Glad I decided to opt out of this crap tonight. More glad that Dam is still in melt down mode

I checked Colts.com to see who had the more ridicules posts. Its a toss up. Im disappointed in some of you for making it close.


In case some of you don't know. Ballard knows more than we do. Trust the process.

We went from a shit hole and a street pickup LT (playoffs) to a couple pass rushers from the AFCCG

I get it. Everyone has opinions. Just try to see the logic and mind set in this.

Ballard does not and will not draft for NEED. He says it ...he does it... One of these days you'll get that. It is ALWAYS BPA which is a winning mindset.

I have said many times that I dont expect a LT drafted when there are better players on the board. TBH. I thought CB or WR would be BPA at 54 and expected that pick.

We have a mobile QB now. Very comparable to Andrew Luck. Probably as close as we get without having the top pick in the draft this yr.

LT is important. BUT not at the expense of building a better TEAM

Ballard has a plan. trust it He's more right than anyone on here

Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 192683)

Pure, total, complete, absolute delusion.

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 192729)

I don't think that's the case. If it was then why would Ballard wait until after the draft to address the problem at LT? I think he fell in love with Paye's physical traits, which put him higher on his draft board than any of the LTs available at 21. Then he gambled that one of the LTs he liked would still be at 54, but unfortunately for us all of the 2nd tier guys were gone by then.

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 192769)

It's funny that you think I'm in "melt down mode", I actually liked the Dayo pick better than the Kwity pick, though Ballard's strategy was obvious from the time the card was turned in yesterday, which is why it backfired so hard with the last viable LT going the pick before him. Dayo actually has pass rush moves, splits doubles, and does the sorts of things on film that both impress and project to early NFL success. Dayo has a rush plan on every play, at least 2-3 developed pass rush moves, attacks any weakness in the opposing OL's blocking strategy, and constantly handfights. Teven Jenkins and Dayo Odeyingbo would have been an excellent draft. Add Elerson Smith to that in Round 4 and you're really cooking with gas. I'd still add Elerson Smith if possible in Round 4, dude went to the Senior Bowl and just won every rep, then you look at his athletic profile, and realize there's a lot to dream on there.



Maybe, but honestly, I feel like Paye was a wasted pick and the Colts would've been better off with Teven Jenkins and Dayo Odeyingbo. Putting Jenkins to the left of Nelson would've been so perfect, and he's as athletic and more technically sound than Castanzo was coming into the NFL.

Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 192786)

Noone is a wasted pick until they've at least played first.... He hasn't played a single game in the NFL yet lol

Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 192785)

None of us really know Ballards thinking... That simple.