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TheMugwump 12-06-2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 178175)
And the Jets do what they do best

I'm rooting for the Jets to go 0-16, and draft Lawrence.

Darnold would look good in the Horseshoe with some decent pro coaching.

Colts And Orioles 12-06-2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 178178)



Got lucky today.




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The defense sacked Watson 5 times today, got an absolutely determined INT that was initially a completed pass for the opposition, and came up big on several different occasions ...... I think that they (the defense) largely made their own luck today.

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WaynesWorld87 12-06-2020 05:13 PM

Thank. Thank you football Gods for showing us your favor today. That was an extremely generous favor you did for us.

Colts And Orioles 12-06-2020 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 178168)
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We're in never-land regarding the clock ........ we don't know if we want it to run low, or if we want some time to be saved in case the Texans score a touchdown.

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 178170)



Now let them score, & get the ball back.



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We got a much better result.

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Brylok 12-06-2020 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 178181)
Gonna finish this beer and go smoke a bowl

Way ahead of you. Ha

Thorgrim 12-06-2020 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 178164)
Buckner or Maniac?

I honestly couldn’t pin it on one of our name guys

njcoltfan 12-06-2020 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMugwump (Post 178182)
I'm rooting for the Jets to go 0-16, and draft Lawrence.

Darnold would look good in the Horseshoe with some decent pro coaching.

He’ll stay in school if the Jets have the first pick, just like Peyton did.

Brylok 12-06-2020 05:15 PM

Bullet dodged there. My Soda's picks are going to be awful this week, but I'm happy for the win.

Puck 12-06-2020 05:16 PM

Come on Jaggoffs

Dewey 5 12-06-2020 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 178189)
He’ll stay in school if the Jets have the first pick, just like Peyton did.

Not a chance. NYC biggest market in the world. He'll be the king of NY & make 100's of millions.

Thorgrim 12-06-2020 05:24 PM

Browns trying to lose.

albany ed 12-06-2020 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorgrim (Post 178198)
Browns trying to lose.

I guess they didn't try hard enough

Dewey 5 12-06-2020 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorgrim (Post 178198)
Browns trying to lose.

They won

Chromeburn 12-06-2020 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMugwump (Post 178182)
I'm rooting for the Jets to go 0-16, and draft Lawrence.

Darnold would look good in the Horseshoe with some decent pro coaching.

Darnold will have 3 years of starting experience in the league already and is a year younger than Joe Burrow. On the flip-side, he has presided over the worst offense in the league, has a league-low 64 QB rating, and hasn't thrown a TD pass in four games. Definitely a gamble.

Chromeburn 12-06-2020 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WaynesWorld87 (Post 178184)
Thank. Thank you football Gods for showing us your favor today. That was an extremely generous favor you did for us.

We should not have won that game.

Brylok 12-06-2020 05:28 PM

Cleveland is 9-3 for the first time since 1994; right before Baltimore stole them.

WaynesWorld87 12-06-2020 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 178203)
We should not have won that game.

Nope, not at all, but I'll take it.

I mean the Texans were going to score a go-ahead TD; there's almost no doubt about that. So when is the last our opponent was driving and looked like they were for sure going to score the game winning FG or TD in the final seconds, only to unexpectedly fuck it up all on their own?

Colts And Orioles 12-06-2020 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 178203)



We should not have won that game.




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In the 2nd half, the Colts' defense outscored the Texans by a score of 2-0.

We were gifted the fumble which ended the game, but I don't think that there is a guarantee that they necessarily would have scored a touchdown and/or if the Colts would not have come back to kick a field gaol in the waning seconds if they did.

Prior to all of that, we had a great run-back of the free kick after the 2-point safety that was called back because of a penalty. I don't think that the Colts necessarily should have lost that game. Holding DeShaun Watson to 0 points in the first 28 and-a-half minutes of the 2nd half isn't done by luck.

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Colts And Orioles 12-06-2020 05:45 PM

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In addition to the full game that the Colts gained on the Titans, they also gained half a game within the division, and a full game within the Conference.



vs. AFC South: lll.,, Colts (2-2) llllll Titans (3-1)


vs. AFC: llllllllllllllllll, Colts (4-4) llllll Titans (6-4)

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Maniac 12-06-2020 06:06 PM

Texans center bailed out Reich for being a fucking moron and not taking the FG to put us up by 7.

Racehorse 12-06-2020 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Maniac (Post 178215)
Texans center bailed out Reich for being a fucking moron and not taking the FG to put us up by 7.

Well, we don't know if that is correct or not, because we got the safety after the 4th down stop. Maybe the Texans have a shorter field and score to make it a one point game and go for two.

nate505 12-06-2020 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 178202)
Darnold will have 3 years of starting experience in the league already and is a year younger than Joe Burrow. On the flip-side, he has presided over the worst offense in the league, has a league-low 64 QB rating, and hasn't thrown a TD pass in four games. Definitely a gamble.

If they can get him for anything less than a 2nd round pick I'm elated. I'm even fine with a 2nd round pick tbh. I think he has potential under a competent staff.

Racehorse 12-06-2020 07:40 PM

Btw, someone be nice and bail him out before Christmas.

Dam8610 12-06-2020 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 178232)
If they can get him for anything less than a 2nd round pick I'm elated. I'm even fine with a 2nd round pick tbh. I think he has potential under a competent staff.

He's not worth a 2 at this point. I'd rather have Stafford or Ryan, both have been saddled with bad teams for most of their careers and when they were given good supporting casts, made the postseason and performed well.

apballin 12-06-2020 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 178238)
Btw, someone be nice and bail him out before Christmas.

That dude really in jail?

Hoopsdoc 12-06-2020 09:31 PM

The decision to go for it on 4th down, up by 4, was REALLY dumb. You take the points every time there. Make it a 7 point game.

There are 7 minutes left at that point. Even if Houston scores and ties it, there will likely be some time left to get into fg range.

If Houston scored after the 4th down stop, there’s probably time left again, only now you’re BEHIND and you HAVE to score instead of potentially playing for overtime if you get into a bad spot.

That was a TERRIBLE call. Kick the field goal every time there.

Colts are lucky that didn’t come back to bite them in the ass.

omahacolt 12-06-2020 11:59 PM

B on the title

A on Taylor’s performance today

rm1369 12-07-2020 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 178262)
The decision to go for it on 4th down, up by 4, was REALLY dumb. You take the points every time there. Make it a 7 point game.

There are 7 minutes left at that point. Even if Houston scores and ties it, there will likely be some time left to get into fg range.

If Houston scored after the 4th down stop, there’s probably time left again, only now you’re BEHIND and you HAVE to score instead of potentially playing for overtime if you get into a bad spot.

That was a TERRIBLE call. Kick the field goal every time there.

Colts are lucky that didn’t come back to bite them in the ass.

I disagree. I’m not certain what the analytics say but I’d bet they favor going for it. The issue was the play call. The team has had great success with Jacoby handling those situations. He stresses the D much more than Rivers. The issue was the personnel grouping used and the play call, not the decision.

albany ed 12-07-2020 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 178239)
He's not worth a 2 at this point. I'd rather have Stafford or Ryan, both have been saddled with bad teams for most of their careers and when they were given good supporting casts, made the postseason and performed well.

If Darnold can be salvaged, a #2 is a bargain. It's a risk, and I honestly think if the Jets can end up with the #1 pick, Darnold is trade bait and may be gotten for really cheap. I'd feel a lot better they only risked a 4th or 5th for him. I honestly think if the right coaching and team gets him, he will blossom into an elite QB. I also think the best place for him is right here with the Colts. If they end up trading him for less than #2, and it's not here, I'll be pissed.

Hoopsdoc 12-07-2020 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 178282)
I disagree. I’m not certain what the analytics say but I’d bet they favor going for it. The issue was the play call. The team has had great success with Jacoby handling those situations. He stresses the D much more than Rivers. The issue was the personnel grouping used and the play call, not the decision.

Ordinarily, I would agree. With the amount of time left though, they should have taken the points.

If not for a flukey fumble at the end, that decision likely would have cost them the game.

Taking the points would have meant overtime at the WORST.

Hoopsdoc 12-07-2020 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 178282)
I disagree. I’m not certain what the analytics say but I’d bet they favor going for it. The issue was the play call. The team has had great success with Jacoby handling those situations. He stresses the D much more than Rivers. The issue was the personnel grouping used and the play call, not the decision.

Also, the metrics back me up.

It was a bad call.
https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...wn/3851496001/

TheMugwump 12-07-2020 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 178262)
The decision to go for it on 4th down, up by 4, was REALLY dumb. You take the points every time there. Make it a 7 point game.

There are 7 minutes left at that point. Even if Houston scores and ties it, there will likely be some time left to get into fg range.

If Houston scored after the 4th down stop, there’s probably time left again, only now you’re BEHIND and you HAVE to score instead of potentially playing for overtime if you get into a bad spot.

That was a TERRIBLE call. Kick the field goal every time there.

Colts are lucky that didn’t come back to bite them in the ass.

Frank is addicted to danger.

rm1369 12-07-2020 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 178295)
Also, the metrics back me up.

It was a bad call.
https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...wn/3851496001/

I’m honestly surprised by that. Although I’m also surprised that the same article says the Colts were still favorites to win with Houston sitting at first and goal.

I still like the call based on how the game was progressing. I wanted no part of OT with a 3rd string LT and facing Watt and Watson. Maybe it is still a lack of faith in Rivers under pressure.

Maniac 12-08-2020 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 178216)
Well, we don't know if that is correct or not, because we got the safety after the 4th down stop. Maybe the Texans have a shorter field and score to make it a one point game and go for two.

1) Reich had no idea that if he failed we would get a safety
2) Safety put us up 6, so a TD beats us. If we just kicked the FG and put us up 7, then they are forced to score a TD and either tie the game or go for two and risk losing. That is a FAR better scenario than being up 4 or 6 after the safety. Not kicking the FG was fucking stupid.

Puck 12-08-2020 09:25 AM

https://www.colts.com/video/anthony-...injury-updates


This gives some insight on the 4th down play

omahacolt 12-08-2020 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 178406)
https://www.colts.com/video/anthony-...injury-updates


This gives some insight on the 4th down play

It was a mistake. That’s all the insight I want to hear

albany ed 12-08-2020 09:52 AM

Was that the only 4th down try they made in that game?

Colts And Orioles 12-08-2020 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 178410)



Was that the only 4th-down attempt that they tried in that game ???




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No.

They went for it on 4th and 4 in the 2nd quarter, and Philip Rivers completed a 39-yard TD pass to a wide-open Jonathan Taylor.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c6Q8MjRIbs

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Puck 12-08-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 178408)
It was a mistake. That’s all the insight I want to hear

Agree, but at least we know he agrees

rm1369 12-08-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 178433)
Agree, but at least we know he agrees

Sounds like he questions the play call, but not the decision to go for it. He said it was a clear go per their analytics. Said he wanted to put the game away because he didn’t want to face Watson on a 2 pt conversion (which he expected if they scored a TD). He also said you have to count the 4th and 4 call that went for a TD. Basically they netted a point by being aggressive and you can’t just complain when they don’t make it.


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