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Ironshaft 03-17-2020 06:22 AM

First 4 years, Aaron Donald (average per year):

51.0 tackles, 9.75 sacks, 10.5 TFL, 2.25 FF

First 4 years, DeForest Buckner (avrage per year):

65.5 tackles, 7.13 sacks, 5.0 TFL, 0.75 FF

Not quite the impact player Donald was stat-wise. However,

And if you are into the PFF thing, AD first, DB second

Year 1 = 90.2 / 71.6
Year 2 = 93.0 / 82.2
Year 3 = 92.6 / 79.3
Year 4 = 94.0 / 78.8

I have seen a lot of "analysis" saying that DB is trending like AD did in his first 4 years.

We are not getting Aarond Donald.

But, the DeForest Buckner we are getting, especially after reading/watching that Stampede Blue article on him, is pretty darn good.

I agree that we only "hope" that the #13 pick would turn into an impact player. Instead, Ballard went out and got a pretty much "for sure" impact player by trading the pick.

I am beginning to like the trade.

JAFF 03-17-2020 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 156337)
I hope Ballard and the FO did the math and believe this guy still has upward potential or that he can maintain elite level of play for the better part of the duration of his contract.

Also, It’s not like Buckner chose to come here in FA. I would be off put if I was a west coast kid who negotiated to stay in SF after working my ass off and now I’m going to the fucking Midwest and playing with a team that in large part is a question mark.

Is he the type of guy who is going to buy in regardless? Was he that guy but this changes him? What has Ballard seen outside of the tape that makes this a positive culture fit that matches not only the fiscal value of the contract but the potential value of a first round pick?

They extended his contract, so he won't be too sad

Racehorse 03-17-2020 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 156294)
Possibly the most stupid statement ever made on this forum!

Well, it IS Dam...

Racehorse 03-17-2020 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Workhorse (Post 156345)

Dude beats quite a few double teams in the clips there.

Racehorse 03-17-2020 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 156385)
They extended his contract, so he won't be too sad

Also, it said that he was involved in the decision on a sign and trade. Looks like he bought in on the idea.

albany ed 03-17-2020 09:05 AM

This tells me that Ballard wants to win right now. That won't happen if Bressett is our QB, so he's gonna sign someone.

Luck4Reich 03-17-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 156404)
This tells me that Ballard wants to win right now. That won't happen if Bressett is our QB, so he's gonna sign someone.

My thought as well.

rm1369 03-17-2020 09:43 AM

I definitely like what I’ve seen on the contract terms. Very team friendly - front loaded with no huge prorated signing bonus that will come back to bite them down the road.

Seen this somewhere - Ballard has turned 4 first round picks into:

Malik Hooker
Quenton Nelson
Brandon Smith
Kemoko Turay
Rock Ya-Sin
Ben Banogu
Marvell Tell
Deforest Buckner
34th pick in 2020

I’ve definitely had my complaints, but I’d say that’s pretty good return. Just need a good QB now.

Chromeburn 03-17-2020 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 156381)
First 4 years, Aaron Donald (average per year):

51.0 tackles, 9.75 sacks, 10.5 TFL, 2.25 FF

First 4 years, DeForest Buckner (avrage per year):

65.5 tackles, 7.13 sacks, 5.0 TFL, 0.75 FF

Not quite the impact player Donald was stat-wise. However,

And if you are into the PFF thing, AD first, DB second

Year 1 = 90.2 / 71.6
Year 2 = 93.0 / 82.2
Year 3 = 92.6 / 79.3
Year 4 = 94.0 / 78.8

I have seen a lot of "analysis" saying that DB is trending like AD did in his first 4 years.

We are not getting Aarond Donald.

But, the DeForest Buckner we are getting, especially after reading/watching that Stampede Blue article on him, is pretty darn good.

I agree that we only "hope" that the #13 pick would turn into an impact player. Instead, Ballard went out and got a pretty much "for sure" impact player by trading the pick.

I am beginning to like the trade.

Aaron Donald went 13 overall. But I’m warming to the idea we got a young all-pro at a position of need for 13.

Chromeburn 03-17-2020 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 156411)
I definitely like what I’ve seen on the contract terms. Very team friendly - front loaded with no huge prorated signing bonus that will come back to bite them down the road.

Seen this somewhere - Ballard has turned 4 first round picks into:

Malik Hooker
Quenton Nelson
Brandon Smith
Kemoko Turay
Rock Ya-Sin
Ben Banogu
Marvell Tell
Deforest Buckner
34th pick in 2020

I’ve definitely had my complaints, but I’d say that’s pretty good return. Just need a good QB now.

Probably need to draft one also. Can’t imagine they sign a guy and keep Hoyer and Brisset around. Will probably draft a project I imagine. Maybe one next year.


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