Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 93145)

No, he is referring to the time that BB thought it would be a good idea to slow down our speed by making the field soggy. It was not due to forgetting any tarp, but watered intentionally so as to make the ground soft and slow.

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 93261)

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I remember that it was snowing during the game.

I don't recall Belichick having the field watered down prior to the game.

Thanks in advance if you have any info/citations about that aspect/occurrence.



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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 93289)

I think this is what he meant:


It rained heavily Wednesday, but the Gillette Stadium field was not covered. It was not covered Tuesday. It was not covered Monday.

Yes, the Patriots do own a tarp, and they have not reported it stolen. Perhaps Patriots coach Bill Belichick chose not to have the grounds crew put the tarp down. Perhaps he forgot.


https://www.courant.com/news/connect...019-story.html

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 93253)

I am not arguing that the guys now have an easier time than Manning did.

I am arguing that Manning was the innovator that made the hurry up offense, with QBs calling the plays at the line of scrimmage and managing the game from the field, the standard that the high powered offenses use today. If Manning did not start doing it in 2001 or so, then Rodgers, Brees and even Brady and all the others would not be doing it today.

You seem to think it was the rule changes/emphasis on the rules, but that was in 2004 when those came along at the urging of Polian. And the rules on roughing the passer were emphasized after 2008.

Manning was creating and running the hurry up offense as we see in the league today before both those changes.

Again Jim Kelly and the Bills did it too some in the early 90s, but no one followed their lead and made it a trend.

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 93290)

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Thanks !!!

That was the same tactic used as the one that I alluded to in the 1982 AFC Championship game between the Dolphins and the Jets ........ the non-use of a tarpaulin by the home team to intentionally deter the players' footing on the playing field.



However, that is a different game than the one that we were discussing ........ that article is in regard to the following season's game (2004), which was a divisional playoff.



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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 93290)

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Thanks !!!

That was the same tactic used as the one that I alluded to in the 1982 AFC Championship game between the Dolphins and the Jets ........ the non-use of a tarpaulin by the home team to intentionally deter the players' footing on the playing field.



However, that is a different game than the one that we were discussing ........ that article is in regard to the following season's game (2004), which was a divisional playoff.



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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 93302)

Belicheat probably went out there with a hose the night before just to make sure.

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 93394)

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...345-story.html

Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 93289)

I think this is what he meant:


https://www.courant.com/news/connect...019-story.html

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 93390)

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We know for a fact that they intentionally left the tarpaulin off of the field for the entire week preceding the game.

While it's possible that the Patriots may be guilty of more than what they have been caught for, I prefer not to suppose and/or make up additional possibilities when there is plenty of fact to incriminate them of their highly questionable (and sometimes illegal) tactics.



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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 93438)

“Oh Hey! It’s raining pretty hard for several days now.”


“What do we do when that happens?”


“Well usually in every other instance we try to protect the integrity of the field and cover it with a tarp.”



“What’s a tarp?... and what’s integrity?”







I’m sure it was just a coincidence that they were worried about the teams speed. Belichick has never bent the rules and doesn’t really pay attention to the details.