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Racehorse 09-27-2018 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 82382)
I thought you were a free market type of person? Just because the Colts do a thing once doesn't mean they would have to do it again. Sure, players could ask, but a simple "no" ends it. It's not some sort of Pandora's Box.

It re-sets the market for RBs. Your explanation is lunacy, as usual

Dam8610 09-27-2018 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 82383)
It re-sets the market for RBs. Your explanation is lunacy, as usual

I would argue it doesn't, especially since on the Colts end it would be an obvious ploy to get some use out of the cap dollars that they'd otherwise just have to send to the union, but the market for RBs is going to go up anyway. The cap in the very near future will exceed $200 million. Some RB in the next few years is going to get a contract that's not gimmicky and has a $15 million AAV.

omahacolt 09-27-2018 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 82363)
That’s a little harsh. There is an argument that a multiple year all-pro running back might possibly help this offense. I don’t know the guy myself, but if he were to check out attitude wise, if you can protect the team if he does performance enhancing drugs, get him for a third and not hamstring yourself financially then I’d be that moron who thinks it’s worth a chance. We need playmakers

Let’s see

He wants more money than any rb in history. A good deal more

We can’t negotiate a new deal this year.

He is one strike away from being suspended a year for drugs

He is a malcontent and is holding out.

It isn’t harsh at all. Nobody should want this idiot on a young team like this.

GoBigBlue88 09-27-2018 12:30 PM

Honestly any objection I have is less about his attitude and more about just waiting a season and getting him without using a draft pick in the offseason.

Dam8610 09-27-2018 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 82421)
Honestly any objection I have is less about his attitude and more about just waiting a season and getting him without using a draft pick in the offseason.

If you don't care about the exclusive negotiating window, this is the best idea.

rm1369 09-27-2018 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 82430)
If you don't care about the exclusive negotiating window, this is the best idea.

You would basically be giving up a 2nd for the opportunity to fully meet Bell’s ridiculous contract demands. Anything less than that and I don’t see him signing until he hits the market and see’s what his value will be. He seems to believe he will get it and has proven he’s committed to making sure he gets the opportunity. I don’t believe anyone will fully meet his demands so the Colts should have an opportunity to get him if they really want him. Personally I’m happy with the trio the Colts have and think there are plenty of better places to spend the money.

Oldcolt 09-27-2018 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 82405)
Let’s see

He wants more money than any rb in history. A good deal more

We can’t negotiate a new deal this year.

He is one strike away from being suspended a year for drugs

He is a malcontent and is holding out.

It isn’t harsh at all. Nobody should want this idiot on a young team like this.

The fact that we can't negotiate a new deal makes me agree we should not give up a draft pick for him. The drug thing bothers me but not the malcontent crap. Nobody here knows the guy, opinions are generated by news that either the club or the players rep give. Neither is without suspicion. He has a limited time to make money and wants to maximize it. So he holds out. Never saw that coming from a professional athlete. I do know he would immediately be the best runner on the team, the best pass protecting back on the team and not only the best pass catching running back but one of the best pass catchers period on the team. He would improve the team immensely on the field. Ballard would be a fool not to look into this. Having said all of that, I come down on not giving up a draft pick for him.

JAFF 09-27-2018 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 82430)
If you don't care about the exclusive negotiating window, this is the best idea.

This guy, in the most polite terms is a knucklehead.

And its' doubtful that will EVER change. Yeah, he can play football, when he's not neck deep in BS.

And how old is he? Investing in an old RB is like buying meat when it's 3 days past the expiration date. Oh, a knucklehead RB

JAFF 09-27-2018 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 82474)
The fact that we can't negotiate a new deal makes me agree we should not give up a draft pick for him. The drug thing bothers me but not the malcontent crap. Nobody here knows the guy, opinions are generated by news that either the club or the players rep give. Neither is without suspicion. He has a limited time to make money and wants to maximize it. So he holds out. Never saw that coming from a professional athlete. I do know he would immediately be the best runner on the team, the best pass protecting back on the team and not only the best pass catching running back but one of the best pass catchers period on the team. He would improve the team immensely on the field. Ballard would be a fool not to look into this. Having said all of that, I come down on not giving up a draft pick for him.

There is video of him recording his coach talking to the team. He's a twitter idiot. He's a dumbass. While I understand his talent, he is the reason he misses games.

Racehorse 09-27-2018 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 82389)
I would argue it doesn't, especially since on the Colts end it would be an obvious ploy to get some use out of the cap dollars that they'd otherwise just have to send to the union, but the market for RBs is going to go up anyway. The cap in the very near future will exceed $200 million. Some RB in the next few years is going to get a contract that's not gimmicky and has a $15 million AAV.

Of course you would


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