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YDFL Commish 06-14-2025 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 326162)
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Anthony Richardson may never throw another pass for the Indianapolis Colts again, and I suppose that it's possible that Richardson confided in Carlie Irsay that he prefered to just hold a clipboard on the sidelines and collect a paycheck. But her insinuation about his lack of desire to play (if he wants to) doesn't necessarily prove that he doesn't have the desire to play. One of Richardson's questionable habits that I and others critiqued him for was putting his shoulder down and taking on defenders in non-crucial situations ...... such as 1st and 2nd downs. A quarterback who is too reckless in taking on defenders doesn't strike me as a gun-shy player and/or somebody who doesn't want to play football. If anything, it shows somebody who is a bit too eager to prove himself.

And yes, I know that he asked out of a game and later stated that he did so because he was tired, but as Omaha pointed out, that may have been him trying to cover up an injury because of all the criticsm that he had been getting for frequently being injured ...... and if that was the case, his cover-up was worse than the truth in the view of public criticism.

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So you agreeing with me, that he may never be right physically to ever play QB?

Colts And Orioles 06-14-2025 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 326164)



So, are you agreeing with me, that he may never be right physically to ever play QB?




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Not necessarily. There are multiple reasons why he may or may not continue as the Colts' starting quarterback, and your theory is one possibility. Another possibility is that Daniel Jones could lead the Colts to a 13-4 record in 2025, and the Colts could subsequently cut ties with Richardson and trade him. A 3rd possibilty (although not very likely) is that the Colts could do what you suggested, and move Richardson to tight end or wide receiver.

On the whole, I don't think that it's likely that Richardson never throws another pass for Colts again. I was saying that as a way of implying/reinforcing the fact that I don't know what the future holds any more than any other Colts fan does, not necessarily because I think that him never throwing another pass for the team is likely.

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apballin 06-14-2025 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 326163)
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Simms, being a former QB himself, may have a point. And if that's the case, I would hope that the Colts' coaching staff notices what Simms does, and tries to (at least slightly) adjust his throwing motion.

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Wasn’t that the point of going to work with Josh Allen’s trainer?

Racehorse 06-16-2025 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 326161)
I like listening to PFT, with Mike Florio and Chris Simms. SImms is one the best analysts and talent evaluators out there when it comes to offensive skill position players.

Simms believes that AR will always have shoulder troubles, because his throwing motion is so violent and AR only relies on his arm and doesn't use his whole body to create the torque in his throws. I believe this to be true, because all of the best throwers of the football, who listed a long time would use their entire body to make the majority of throws.

As I have said before, move the kid to TE, and see if he really wants it.

If Derrick Henry can throw a TD pass out of the RB position, just think what AR could do as a wildcat type player.

Dam8610 06-17-2025 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 326143)
hmm

something is similar here. curious why you picked these 3

You could throw in Blake Bortles, Josh Rosen, Tim Couch, Johnny Manziel, etc.

CletusPyle 06-17-2025 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 326176)
If Derrick Henry can throw a TD pass out of the RB position, just think what AR could do as a wildcat type player.

AR is not durable enough to run the football in the nfl, if he runs 5 times he gets hurt. It is unfair, his greatest gift as a QB is his running threat, but he is not durable enough to use it! I predict Jones does well enough that he is the starting QB all season, and they may try to use AR in a wildcat but if they do, he won't last 1/2 the season!

I am not being all negative, I think Daniel Jones is going to surprise some people and be very good for the Colts!

Lov2fish 06-17-2025 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 326183)
AR is not durable enough to run the football in the nfl, if he runs 5 times he gets hurt. It is unfair, his greatest gift as a QB is his running threat, but he is not durable enough to use it! I predict Jones does well enough that he is the starting QB all season, and they may try to use AR in a wildcat but if they do, he won't last 1/2 the season!

I am not being all negative, I think Daniel Jones is going to surprise some people and be very good for the Colts!

The small amount of film I have seen on Daniels in mini camp so far, he is threading the needle and hitting some dimes in stride. If he does that in camp and preseason he will be the starter and the argument is over.

Racehorse 06-17-2025 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 326187)
The small amount of film I have seen on Daniels in mini camp so far, he is threading the needle and hitting some dimes in stride. If he does that in camp and preseason he will be the starter and the argument is over.

I do not care which of them wins this competition, as long as the winner is effective in this offense. Get us to the division champion where we belong.

Lov2fish 06-18-2025 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 326188)
I do not care which of them wins this competition, as long as the winner is effective in this offense. Get us to the division champion where we belong.

No argument here. I don't care who is starting as long as they are doing what it takes to win the division. Still doesn't make me less salty for wasting a top 5 pick on someone who's film showed we got exactly what the film said he was, inconsistent. I was on record not wanting any of them. Could have spent that pick on D and embrace the suck until a legit QB came out.

YDFL Commish 06-18-2025 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 326176)
If Derrick Henry can throw a TD pass out of the RB position, just think what AR could do as a wildcat type player.

Correct. That's the only reason that you would do it. I'm not suggesting that AR will become a 20 snap per game TE. You use him as a gadget guy, who plays maybe 3 to 5 snaps a game.

Can you imagine a backfield of Jones, AR and Warren? Which one is throwing the football, which one is running the football. They all can do all three well enough to have the defense on its heels and in a quandary.


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