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Ironshaft 03-23-2023 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 262335)
Something else I've been wondering is why hasn't Foles been released.

Insurance.

IF, and this is a big IF, the Colts only like three of the "top" four QBs and someone comes from left field and offers so much that Arizona feels compelled to trade the #3 pick and three QBs go off the board 1, 2, 3......what do the Colts do?

Having watched Ballard for a number of years now, I think they trade down and amass the stock capital to trade up in 2024 rather than take the best defender in the draft.

At that point, Minshew and Foles battle it out for who is starting in 2023 with Sam as the 3rd QB.

Dam8610 03-23-2023 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 262366)
Insurance.

IF, and this is a big IF, the Colts only like three of the "top" four QBs and someone comes from left field and offers so much that Arizona feels compelled to trade the #3 pick and three QBs go off the board 1, 2, 3......what do the Colts do?

Having watched Ballard for a number of years now, I think they trade down and amass the stock capital to trade up in 2024 rather than take the best defender in the draft.

At that point, Minshew and Foles battle it out for who is starting in 2023 with Sam as the 3rd QB.

If that happens, the smartest move would be to draft Will Anderson and contact Lamar Jackson to begin negotiations the Monday morning after the draft.

Oldcolt 03-23-2023 09:54 AM

I have a hard time seeing Ballard trading down. I know he loved to do this but it has not worked for this team. All it has done is bring us mediocrity. We need playmakers in the worst way. I see him falling in love with Richardson. He has the athletic qualities Ballard will fall in love with and I think the young man has his shit together mentally, he seems bright and motivated to be a total QB. He has never even had a dedicated QB coach in college so he is incredibly raw. I would enjoy watching his growth.

rcubed 03-23-2023 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 262369)
I have a hard time seeing Ballard trading down. I know he loved to do this but it has not worked for this team. All it has done is bring us mediocrity. We need playmakers in the worst way. I see him falling in love with Richardson. He has the athletic qualities Ballard will fall in love with and I think the young man has his shit together mentally, he seems bright and motivated to be a total QB. He has never even had a dedicated QB coach in college so he is incredibly raw. I would enjoy watching his growth.

I could also see us taking anderson at 4 if stroud and young are gone. Top 2 QBs off the board and if the other two highly touted ones are viewed as too much of a project to be worthy of 4th pick, then binder-ballard takes anderson and maybe moves up later or grabs hooker later.

Discflinger 03-24-2023 07:13 AM

Anyone see where Baldringer said that he wanted to build depth with Pryor? Ok, dude, I am seriously done now.

IndyNorm 03-26-2023 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 262366)
Insurance.

IF, and this is a big IF, the Colts only like three of the "top" four QBs and someone comes from left field and offers so much that Arizona feels compelled to trade the #3 pick and three QBs go off the board 1, 2, 3......what do the Colts do?

Having watched Ballard for a number of years now, I think they trade down and amass the stock capital to trade up in 2024 rather than take the best defender in the draft.

At that point, Minshew and Foles battle it out for who is starting in 2023 with Sam as the 3rd QB.

Good point. Although under that scenario I can't imagine Foles being any higher than QB3 with how awful he was in his 2 starts last year.

Looks like he wasn't due any sort of offseason roster bonus, at least per OTC. So guessing he hasn't been released since there's no reason to now unless we needed the cap space, which is only $2.1M.

Dewey 5 03-26-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 262366)
Insurance.

IF, and this is a big IF, the Colts only like three of the "top" four QBs and someone comes from left field and offers so much that Arizona feels compelled to trade the #3 pick and three QBs go off the board 1, 2, 3......what do the Colts do?

Having watched Ballard for a number of years now, I think they trade down and amass the stock capital to trade up in 2024 rather than take the best defender in the draft.

At that point, Minshew and Foles battle it out for who is starting in 2023 with Sam as the 3rd QB.

If he does that he won't be the one drafting players in 2024.

JAFF 03-26-2023 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262368)
If that happens, the smartest move would be to draft Will Anderson and contact Lamar Jackson to begin negotiations the Monday morning after the draft.

Where does the cap space come from? Isnt he wanting a big contract with a lot of $$$ uo front?

https://overthecap.com/calculator/indianapolis-colts

Dam8610 03-26-2023 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 262538)
Where does the cap space come from? Isnt he wanting a big contract with a lot of $$$ uo front?

https://overthecap.com/calculator/indianapolis-colts

There's plenty of fat the Colts could cut for more cap room. Cutting Ryan Kelly, Kenny Moore, Nick Foles, and Mo Alie Cox could generate as much as $23 million.

Racehorse 03-26-2023 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262543)
There's plenty of fat the Colts could cut for more cap room. Cutting Ryan Kelly, Kenny Moore, Nick Foles, and Mo Alie Cox could generate as much as $23 million.

You gotta replace those guys with someone.

ChaosTheory 03-26-2023 11:10 PM

Surely as prudent as they've been, they have a future available that they can mortgage (to whatever degree) in order to make a monster contract happen now if they want to.

Cutting guys like Moore and Kelly is not something that makes sense to me, as popular of an idea as it is. Moore had a down year, but he's currently one of two CB's we have with any real playing time. Kelly also had a down year, but I don't think it's as bad as a lot of people do. He got highlight reeled and now everybody thinks he can't play football anymore.

Dam8610 03-27-2023 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 262551)
You gotta replace those guys with someone.

Foles and Mo Alie Cox's replacements are on the roster. The other 2 can be drafted.

Brylok 03-27-2023 01:29 PM

Matt Pryor to the 49ers. I haven't seen any terms yet.

ukcolt 03-27-2023 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262567)
Foles and Mo Alie Cox's replacements are on the roster. The other 2 can be drafted.

Are you living in cloud cuckoo land?

What draft assets would we have left after this blockbuster trade?

We already have holes we need to fill, let alone creating yet more that we then need to replace?

I accept that their is a possibility of Jackson being a Colt, but one player can destroy a team dynamic for years as well, if they don't work out.

Losing at least 2 first round picks, absorbing his salary and having to cut two more starters this year, and likely others in future years as his cap hit escalates, is not the way to build a franchise long term. Building a team via the draft and then paying a QB big money after year 5, is ok, as you still have your subsequent high pick draft assets and they are cheap, which doesn't affect the salary cap so much and you can manage your roster more easily.

YDFL Commish 03-27-2023 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 262583)
Matt Pryor to the 49ers. I haven't seen any terms yet.

How that guy remains in the NFL is a mystery to me.

Spike 03-27-2023 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 262583)
Matt Pryor to the 49ers. I haven't seen any terms yet.

LOL. Why?

My 2nd favorite team picks him up? Idiots! SMDH!

bigalbert 03-27-2023 03:36 PM

Lot of momentum on SM about the Colts making a play for LamJack. I don’t want this but it would make us a legit contender immediately and we wouldn’t have to fix our line


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JAFF 03-27-2023 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 262551)
You gotta replace those guys with someone.

Exactly

JAFF 03-27-2023 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262567)
Foles and Mo Alie Cox's replacements are on the roster. The other 2 can be drafted.

Yeah, because pro bowl centers are easy to find.

Brylok 03-27-2023 04:14 PM

Ryan Kelly and Kenny Moore are both staying for 2023 per Ballard (Z. Keefer)

ChaosTheory 03-27-2023 05:16 PM

I feel like I've scrolled past headlines all day mentioning the Colts and Jackson. Just now getting a chance to read some of it. Where is the smoke coming from?

JAFF 03-27-2023 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 262616)
I feel like I've scrolled past headlines all day mentioning the Colts and Jackson. Just now getting a chance to read some of it. Where is the smoke coming from?

If they sign lamar jackson, they should just run option out of the I bone

YDFL Commish 03-27-2023 05:46 PM

Ron Meyer would approve.

IndyNorm 03-27-2023 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 262603)
Yeah, because pro bowl centers are easy to find.

They obviously aren't, but Kelly isn't anywhere close to being a pro bowl center anymore.

Racehorse 03-27-2023 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262567)
Foles and Mo Alie Cox's replacements are on the roster. The other 2 can be drafted.

We really need a laughing emoji beside the "thanks" button.

Discflinger 04-05-2023 04:31 PM

I just realized that we are over the Banagu experiment. Man, that was long and tedious.

JAFF 04-05-2023 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 262616)
I feel like I've scrolled past headlines all day mentioning the Colts and Jackson. Just now getting a chance to read some of it. Where is the smoke coming from?

Dam’s ass

omahacolt 04-05-2023 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Discflinger (Post 263157)
I just realized that we are over the Banagu experiment. Man, that was long and tedious.

wasn't much of an experiment

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 04-12-2023 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 260304)

DeForest Buckner could be a target for a contract restructure to lower his cap hit for the 2023 season.


The Colts restructured Buckner's contract to free up a little more cap room this year:

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...Cw8djrl9gtAAAA

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The Colts converted $5 million of DT DeForest Buckner's salary this season into a signing bonus, clearing $2.5M in cap space.

He'll still make $19.75M, which is now fully guaranteed.

JAFF 04-12-2023 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 263465)
The Colts restructured Buckner's contract to free up a little more cap room this year:

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...Cw8djrl9gtAAAA

Makes sense and sends a message. Become the best, we pay for the best. Fuck dumping salary, lets go and win

Brylok 04-12-2023 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 263465)
The Colts restructured Buckner's contract to free up a little more cap room this year:

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...Cw8djrl9gtAAAA

Money to re-sign Foles? Ballard going hit up the Dollar Tree for a CB before the draft? Gonna bring Ya-Sin back?

Dam8610 04-12-2023 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 263486)
Money to re-sign Foles? Ballard going hit up the Dollar Tree for a CB before the draft? Gonna bring Ya-Sin back?

Probably Door #3.

IndyNorm 04-12-2023 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 263486)
Money to re-sign Foles? Ballard going hit up the Dollar Tree for a CB before the draft? Gonna bring Ya-Sin back?

We're ~$22.5M under the cap after Defo's restructure, so hopefully it's to make a little extra room for Rock and/or another decent signing.

And speaking of Foles we'll have another $2.1M of cap space whenever we finally release him.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 05-09-2023 04:27 PM

The Colts met with free agent OL Chris Hubbard.

Hubbard has played both Guard and Tackle positions during his tenure with the Steelers and Browns.


https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/stat...09396196458499

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Veteran OL Chris Hubbard recently visited the Colts, per source. Nine-year vet has 49 career starts with Pittsburgh and Cleveland.

Chromeburn 05-10-2023 11:03 AM

We are probably going to see where we are at in camp and wait for camp cuts.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 06-07-2023 03:24 PM

Another former Colt to join the Dallas D:

https://twitter.com/GehlkenNFL/statu...18099061776394

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Cowboys are expected to sign DE Ben Banogu, two people familiar with discussions said.

Former TCU standout was a Colts second-round pick in 2019.

He grew up in North Texas, graduating from Prosper High.

Oldcolt 06-07-2023 03:59 PM

I'd like to see him get some playing time. I have no idea what kind of player you keep around for years and yet keep inactive for so many games. I am curious as to just how lousy (or good for that matter) Banogu is.

Dam8610 06-07-2023 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 267568)
I'd like to see him get some playing time. I have no idea what kind of player you keep around for years and yet keep inactive for so many games. I am curious as to just how lousy (or good for that matter) Banogu is.

A guy who is somehow consistently between the 49th and 53rd best player on your team.

Oldcolt 06-07-2023 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 267569)
A guy who is somehow consistently between the 49th and 53rd best player on your team.

I get that. I would just like to see it on the field. And how he makes the team as the 49-53 (and I agree with you he probably was) guy three years running is strange. I'm thinking Ballard just gives a long leash on some traits waiting to see if they can somehow make it work.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 07-27-2023 03:53 PM

The Colts add a DB / Special Team'er:


https://twitter.com/NateAtkins_/stat...50233261641729

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The Colts have made a veteran cornerback signing, adding CB Chris Lammons.

He’s played 42 games as a reserve with the Chiefs and Dolphins.

He also is facing a felony battery charge along with Alvin Kamara for the alleged fight incident in Las Vegas.
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...51937046601729

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Chris Lammons was a core special teamer in KC the past two years. Played less than 40 snaps defensively as a cornerback, but more than 500 on special teams.


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