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ChoppedWood 11-10-2022 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 249239)
So Grigson -Pagano 2.0.

Yeah kinda that same thing. Only this time I think Saturday would represent a GM that guys would respect and he could be good with the media end of things.

I'm indifferent with Harbaugh. There's some things that rub me wrong but the guy has proven he can build a winning team with a few different set ups now which is unique.

CletusPyle 11-10-2022 10:25 PM

Saw this.....the talk has started.

https://www.ninersnation.com/2022/11...urn-to-the-nfl

rcubed 11-10-2022 10:29 PM

I wouldn’t hate harbaugh.

Who’s the stud QB thats going out every sunday for us?

IndyNorm 11-11-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 249239)
So Grigson -Pagano 2.0.

No matter who we end up I doubt it'll be that bad. It takes a special kind of incompetence to be as bad as those clowns were.

IndyNorm 11-11-2022 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 249230)
More and more I think this is a 2 fold thing.

1- Saturday's primary role- report back to Irsay which dudes want to play football and which dudes just care about the cash. Those on the cash end of that report, see ya at the end of the season.

2- Saturday auditioning for Ballard's job. I don't think there's any chance Ballard is back so if Saturday demonstrates he can work the personnel end of this- he moves to GM and Jim goes after some high profile coach and it would not surprise me if Harbaugh's name emerges as a front runner. I think Jim is going to go full in on getting more of an old school, lunch pale persona in place. F-k analytics, f-k gimmicks, tape it up and go out there and play with heart. I think that's what he wants to get back to his team.

I agree with the first part. Irsay wanted someone from the outside who he trusts to deep dive the situation and advise him on how much of the team needs to be blown up with special attention to the OL.

Not so sure on your 2nd point.

Oldcolt 11-11-2022 12:05 PM

I was ambivalent about Saturday's hire but I am beginning to love it. I have changed my mind because of of the good ole boy network having a shit. Most recent example is the fuckface Joe Thomas thinks that hiring Saturday is the most egregious thing he has ever seen in the NFL. His team has a sexual predator under center that they gave millions of guaranteed dollars to-that he appears to be fine with. Irsay listens to his own crazy drummer. It is football for goodness sake, I'll take this ride with him. Could be a disaster but I follow this for entertainment and this (to me anyway) is way more entertaining than the Reich regime was these last few months.

Brylok 11-11-2022 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 249247)

Harbaugh isn't coming, but at least the national sports media is talking about the Colts again. For the first time this year.

rcubed 11-11-2022 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 249273)
I was ambivalent about Saturday's hire but I am beginning to love it. I have changed my mind because of of the good ole boy network having a shit. Most recent example is the fuckface Joe Thomas thinks that hiring Saturday is the most egregious thing he has ever seen in the NFL. His team has a sexual predator under center that they gave millions of guaranteed dollars to-that he appears to be fine with. Irsay listens to his own crazy drummer. It is football for goodness sake, I'll take this ride with him. Could be a disaster but I follow this for entertainment and this (to me anyway) is way more entertaining than the Reich regime was these last few months.


I love this post!

I saw that joe thomas video. Holy shit, most egregious ever!? With all the shit like you mentioned, this is the worst! I am not sure I love the thought of saturday long term, but the rest of the season should be entertaining!

Colts And Orioles 11-13-2022 11:57 AM

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Can one of the greatest offensive lineman in franchise history who is now retired from his days as a blocker somehow transform the worst offensive line in the NFL from horrible to average over the second half of the 2022 schedule ???

Probably not this season, but it would be interesting to see what happens next year should Big Jim Irsay decide to remove the "interim" tag from Saturday's current status.

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Colts And Orioles 11-13-2022 06:34 PM

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(vs. RAIDERS, 11/13)


Jeff Saturday is the anti-Jim Caldwell in regard to calling time-outs ...... he is very definitive, non-hesitant, and most importantly good at it on both sides of the ball (offense and defense.)

I just witnessed him do a masterful job of time-management in the final minute of the 1st half ..... he called a time-out IMMEDIATELY when the Raiders were tacked in-bounds when they were inside the Colts' 10-yardline, and he called another timeout IMMEDIATELY after Matt Ryan made a long completion over the middle shortly after that.

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JAFF 11-14-2022 02:51 PM

https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...d-FeedRedesign

Have a nicw day

Pez 11-15-2022 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 249273)
I was ambivalent about Saturday's hire but I am beginning to love it. I have changed my mind because of of the good ole boy network having a shit. Most recent example is the fuckface Joe Thomas thinks that hiring Saturday is the most egregious thing he has ever seen in the NFL. His team has a sexual predator under center that they gave millions of guaranteed dollars to-that he appears to be fine with. Irsay listens to his own crazy drummer. It is football for goodness sake, I'll take this ride with him. Could be a disaster but I follow this for entertainment and this (to me anyway) is way more entertaining than the Reich regime was these last few months.

MacAfee had Thomas on his show in 2020 where he said he would put in his hat to coach the Browns, despite having no experience...

The old-boy network have come out against this like a bunch of facebook social justice warrior Karens.

Oldcolt 11-15-2022 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 250079)
MacAfee had Thomas on his show in 2020 where he said he would put in his hat to coach the Browns, despite having no experience...

The old-boy network have come out against this like a bunch of facebook social justice warrior Karens.

MacAfee also pointed out that Cowher took the Pittsburgh job when he was 34. Saturday was still the Colts center when he was 34, but somehow that just doesn't count.

I am not sure why everyone is surprised that a 30 year old can call plays. When some of us old farts were young ALL QBs called their own plays and a ton of them were 30 or younger. I really don't see that much difference with coaches calling plays, I think good QBs were actually better. Had a feel for what was happening on the field that people like Reich, with their head stuck in a headset, just cannot get.

Chromeburn 11-16-2022 04:08 PM

Greeny weighs in

https://youtu.be/2FbJaxVdlek


This whole coaching interim thing really triggered a lot of people.

Colts And Orioles 11-16-2022 04:43 PM

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NOVEMBER 16, 2022 l (Jeff Saturday Media Availability)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8SbJdAupDc

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YDFL Commish 11-17-2022 07:43 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBUQ-OmD7RA

This is is the best take yet!

ColtBlue 11-18-2022 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 248634)
He's literally only coached high school and his record is 20-16...as a high school head coach. C'mon. Smh

I agree, if Saturday can coach this team up to beat the Eagles and win a few more games this season. I will have confidence in him for sure.

I just don't see this team getting any better after this season not being in a position for a QB. Plus I don't have faith in Ballard for drafting a QB. We had a chance of keeping Glow and Ballard thought Hines was more important.


Where is Hines now??

Ryan is a HOF QB in my eyes. But he can't withstand playing for a OL that may not be fixed or one that is inconsistent as this one.

IMO If Colts can't move up in draft for Bryce Young, just draft for needed positions. No other QB's I would push for.

I like Bryce, he reminds me of Deshaun Watson without the baggage. JMO

Spike 11-18-2022 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 250338)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBUQ-OmD7RA

This is is the best take yet!

That guy is good. Love his takes.

ColtBlue 11-18-2022 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 250079)
MacAfee had Thomas on his show in 2020 where he said he would put in his hat to coach the Browns, despite having no experience...

The old-boy network have come out against this like a bunch of facebook social justice warrior Karens.

I disagree with what Thomas big mouth said for sure. He wanted to be Browns head coach. Say Irsay and Jeff are drinking buddies and Jeff saying he never ever drinked with Irsay. Some poor me I should be coach as well!! I don't disagree with Cowher. May Cowher have said it differently? Of course...

Everyone is pissed at Cowher more than Thomas, it seems... That is BS. Cowher had experience with one of the greatest in coaches.(Marty Schottenheimer) He should be able to have his own opinion like everyone else in this chat room. Cause Cowher had experience and Thomas hasn't..

I'm a colt fan and bleed blue.. But Cowher is allowed to speak opinion just like the rest of us...

ColtBlue 11-18-2022 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ColtBlue (Post 250442)
I disagree with what Thomas big mouth said for sure. He wanted to be Browns head coach. Say Irsay and Jeff are drinking buddies and Jeff saying he never ever drinked with Irsay. Some poor me I should be coach as well!! I don't disagree with Cowher. May Cowher have said it differently? Of course...

Everyone is pissed at Cowher more than Thomas, it seems... That is BS. Cowher had experience with one of the greatest in coaches.(Marty Schottenheimer) He should be able to have his own opinion like everyone else in this chat room. Cause Cowher had experience and Thomas hasn't..

I'm a colt fan and bleed blue.. But Cowher is allowed to speak opinion just like the rest of us...


And let me add. Who does the media and commentators hate besides the Colts??? They all hated us since letting Manning go!!!

Colts And Orioles 11-20-2022 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 249656)
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(vs. RAIDERS, 11/13)


Jeff Saturday is the anti-Jim Caldwell in regard to calling time-outs ...... he is very definitive, non-hesitant, and most importantly good at it on both sides of the ball (offense and defense.)

I just witnessed him do a masterful job of time-management in the final minute of the 1st half ..... he called a time-out IMMEDIATELY when the Raiders were tacked in-bounds when they were inside the Colts' 10-yardline, and he called another timeout IMMEDIATELY after Matt Ryan made a long completion over the middle shortly after that.

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(vs. EAGLES, 11/20)


Excellentl clock-management by Saturday to close out the first half ...... they had to make sure that if they missed the long field-goal-attempt, the Eagles would have almost no time to get into field-goal range themselves ...... that's why Saturday bled the clock after the runner was tacked-in bounds on 2nd down.

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Chromeburn 11-20-2022 03:44 PM

Love how the refs are actually calling holding

Colts And Orioles 11-29-2022 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 249656)
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(vs. RAIDERS, 11/13)


Jeff Saturday is the anti-Jim Caldwell in regard to calling time-outs ...... he is very definitive, non-hesitant, and most importantly good at it on both sides of the ball (offense and defense.)

I just witnessed him do a masterful job of time-management in the final minute of the 1st half ..... he called a time-out IMMEDIATELY when the Raiders were tacked in-bounds when they were inside the Colts' 10-yardline, and he called another timeout IMMEDIATELY after Matt Ryan made a long completion over the middle shortly after that.

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 250724)
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(vs. EAGLES, 11/20)


Excellentl clock-management by Saturday to close out the first half ...... they had to make sure that if they missed the long field-goal-attempt, the Eagles would have almost no time to get into field-goal range themselves ...... that's why Saturday bled the clock after the runner was tacked-in bounds on 2nd down.

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(vs. STEELERS, 11/28)


As good as his clock-management was against the Raiders and the Eagles, it was awful on the Colts' final drive against the Steelers ...... l Matt Ryan l gave us life with a 14-yard scramble on 2nd and 17. With 3 timeouts, Saturday let the clock run. The next call was extremely predictable, and we lost 1 yard on it. That whole scenario turned a very manageable 3rd-and-3 into a very scary 4th-and-4.

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Colts And Orioles 11-30-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 252128)
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(vs. STEELERS, 11/28)


As good as his clock-management was against the Raiders and the Eagles, it was awful on the Colts' final drive against the Steelers ...... l Matt Ryan l gave us life with a 14-yard scramble on 2nd and 17. With 3 timeouts, Saturday let the clock run. The next call was extremely predictable, and we lost 1 yard on it. That whole scenario turned a very manageable 3rd-and-3 into a very scary 4th-and-4.

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All of that said, I'm not going to go all anti-Saturday and kill him because of one awful handling of a situation ...... as I had previously pointed out, his clock-management in his first 2 games prior to the Steelers fiasco was stellar.

One of the few good things about the Colts being 4-7-1 and with very little chance of going on a run to snatch up a playoff berth is that we can watch and observe Saturday over the next 5 games to get a larger sample-size of how he functions as an in-game head coach ...... it's not like the Colts are 7-5 or 8-4, and in a legitimate battle for the AFC South division title, so if Saturday shits the bed from now until the season's end, it won't be nearly as disappointing as when Carson Wentz and company shit the bed in the final 2 games of the 2021 season.

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MeSayDayo 11-30-2022 07:50 PM

We have been shitting the bed all season long. The bed is shat. There is no detergent in the world that will clean the bed from 2022.

Colts And Orioles 11-30-2022 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MeSayDayo (Post 252369)



We have been shitting the bed all season long. The bed is shat. There is no detergent in the world that will clean the bed from 2022.




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Correct. But regardless of that fact, we still will have another 5 games to watch and observe Jeff Saturday as an in-game coach, with no pressures of worrying about a playoff berth.

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MeSayDayo 12-01-2022 08:54 AM

Jeff is a good story, but is he really being considered to be our next coach?

I think as fans we like the move, because we all like Jeff. He is the epitome of our glory days as fans and I think all of us hope that we can find that success that the Saturday playing years afforded the Colts team.

But when we actually need a Coach that we hope will be long term, I don't think Saturday should be the guy. Not because I don't think he might make a good coach one day- he has great intangibles for it- but I don't think he has built up a solid philosophy about what kind of coach he wants to be. This includes what kind of Offensive and Defensive system he wants to run, what coaches he wants to have in place in each spot (and what coaches will ultimately come here), and the players to fill his philosophy to a lesser degree (Since that isn't the Coaches primary job)
Personally, I wouldn't bring in a guy to evaluate the team for good and bad and make the recommendations to the owner if my plan was to have that man become my head coach long term. Saturday might make some unpopular decisions in the locker room and face to face with some of these men. He is here to be a positive disrupter.
Having said that, Saturday
a) knows football x's and o's better than all of us. No doubt, he could handle this aspect of the game (poor clock management last Monday aside)
b) he is good in front of the camera and with the media. He is honest, no bullshit for the most part, and I think the media would give him a pass which is half the battle for Coaches it seems.
c) he is a motivator, which is the antithesis of what we had in Reich.
d) he knows the Colts inside and out. He knows Indianapolis and the fans inside and out. He would likely fuse the identity of team to the heart of the city, which is a great story....but I still need someone with a structured plan in place.
The problem is, with Irsay meddling to the extent that he has...I don't know if any top coaching candidate is touching the Colts unless they are a first timer. Maybe that is the path to success though? Bring in one of Kyle Shannahans playbook guys like McDaniels. I am for it!
Case in point...Jeff might very well be the best of what we can find out there. Maybe his interim position will be super duper interim.

JAFF 12-01-2022 10:32 AM

Just one thing. Being the head coach takes a lot of time. Not just in season. More than being a HS coach, (most people have no idea how much time it takes) more than a college coach. Jeff has made his money, he can go back to ESPN, soft gig. He might be the best guy because of his relationship with Irsay


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