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Colts And Orioles 07-17-2022 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234013)



No need for a separate political thread, C&O. Jaff only posts DTS shit, just need to make a DTS section for Jaff. We have never had this problem before.
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I don't care what they call it, as long as a separate forum is started.

As I said, most posters don't care very much about all of the other subject matter in the General Topics section in the first place, so to manage to knock almost everything else off of the front page is quite the dubious feat.

o

JAFF 07-17-2022 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 234011)
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Placing threads in the correct forum is not the only decorum that ColtFreaks has. You managed to take a section of the board that was rarely visited in the first place, and pushed almost every non-political thread off of Page One. If you want to be obstinate and refuse to acknowledge that your countless political threads were clogging up the General Discussion board, fine ...... the fact that l Racehorse l merged almost all of those threads, coupled with the fact that the administrators of ColtFreaks are strongly considering having a separate section for politics only say otherwise.

o
So i posted daily news in a “rarely visited” forum, where it seemed like a good idea, since it was rarely used.

If there had been a “politics and other dumbshit stuff” board, I would have put it there.

Racehorse 07-17-2022 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 234017)
o


OK, point taken.

Still, you did merge the threads upon suggestion, and you did suggest that we have a separate forum for politics, so I suspect that you understood the overall point that I was making and the reason why I made the request to merge the threads in the first place.

o
Absolutely. I was just making a clarification that I did not do it unilaterally.

JAFF 07-18-2022 11:06 PM
Trump responds to Pulitzer rejection of demand to revoke reporting awards

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3...orting-awards/

JAFF 07-19-2022 08:37 PM
Georgia Trump electors throw Giuliani and Eastman under the bus in legal filing: report

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...75f49eec1c438f

Lol

JAFF 07-21-2022 08:22 AM
Opinion: The January 6 hearing witness who should make Trump nervous
 
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/21/opini...gen/index.html

Should watch this guy testify

Spike 07-21-2022 08:27 PM
Enough of this shit about Trump. Can this fucked up administration do something to help us Americans. Like I said earlier, no one really gives a shit about 1/6 anymore. The non-brain dead Americans give a shit about their quality of life right now and what this administration has done to fuck it all up, nothing but shit the fucking bed. You fucking liberals are a disease.

JAFF 07-21-2022 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234283)
Enough of this shit about Trump. Can this fucked up administration do something to help us Americans. Like I said earlier, no one really gives a shit about 1/6 anymore. The non-brain dead Americans give a shit about their quality of life right now and what this administration has done to fuck it all up, nothing but shit the fucking bed. You fucking liberals are a disease.
No, they really do, because Trump tried to subvert the election. By the way, the comment “ You fucking liberals are a disease” is your way of being a christian?

He fooled, bamboozled, and lied to a lot of good people. If he and his minions are innocent, all they need to do is go down to the hearings and testify. Explain sending a mob to over turn the results. Waiting 167 minutes of violence before calling off the mob at the capitol. It was a crime which he put into motion

Spike 07-21-2022 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234286)
No, they really do, because Trump tried to subvert the election. By the way, the comment “ You fucking liberals are a disease” is your way of being a christian?

He fooled, bamboozled, and lied to a lot of good people. If he and his minions are innocent, all they need to do is go down to the hearings and testify. Explain sending a mob to over turn the results. Waiting 167 minutes of violence before calling off the mob at the capitol. It was a crime which he put into motion
You're full of shit Jaff. Just fucking stop. The majority of people don't agree with you. Live with it.

JAFF 07-21-2022 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234289)
You're full of shit Jaff. Just fucking stop. The majority of people don't agree with you. Live with it.

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/21/11125...ges-poll-finds

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/12/u...ling-2024.html

https://www.newsweek.com/2024-odds-b...santis-1726687

Spike 07-21-2022 11:24 PM
Not reading any of that shit. There is the truth and then there is the media bullshit. You liberals buy into that, I choose not.

JAFF 07-21-2022 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234292)
Not reading any of that shit. There is the truth and then there is the media bullshit. You liberals buy into that, I choose not.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/201...1af049787f.png

JAFF 07-24-2022 11:11 AM
Murdoch's New York Post dumps Trump
 
Sorry its from cnn, but you can check it out your self

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One of Donald Trump's favorite newspapers — controlled by his media ally Rupert Murdoch — says Trump is "unworthy to be this country's chief executive again."

Those words, in this weekend's New York Post, may be the tabloid's strongest critique of Trump yet.
Journalists are unflinching as they cover explosive 1/6 testimony. Meanwhile, MAGA Media spins for Trump
Journalists are unflinching as they cover explosive 1/6 testimony. Meanwhile, MAGA Media spins for Trump
It was published online on Friday evening, around the same time another Murdoch publication, the Wall Street Journal, also published an editorial harshly critiquing the former president.
The Journal called him "The President Who Stood Still on Jan. 6" and praised Vice President Mike Pence. "Character is revealed in a crisis, and Mr. Pence passed his Jan. 6 trial. Mr. Trump utterly failed his," the Journal editorial stated.

Both newspapers have been noticeably more critical of Trump than Murdoch's biggest megaphone of all, the Fox News Channel, though close viewers have also picked up on some signs that Fox might be souring on Trump.
The right-wing network does not show his rallies any longer, for example. Potential 2024 presidential candidate Ron DeSantis, the Florida governor, was a featured guest on Fox while Trump held a rally on Friday night.
Both the Post and Journal have conservative editorial boards that are thought to reflect Murdoch's views. Murdoch said last fall that conservatives must play an active role in the American political debate, "but that will not happen if President Trump stays focused on the past."
If Murdoch was trying to give Trump advice, it didn't work. Trump has continued to spread lies about the 2020 election and undermine the House's investigation into the January 6 insurrection.
Analysis: Trump's election lie becomes a big problem for MAGA Media
Analysis: Trump's election lie becomes a big problem for MAGA Media
After the House committee's first prime time hearing last month, the Journal's editorial board said the evidence was a reminder that "Trump betrayed his supporters."
While the editorial writers have remained skeptical of the House committee and critical of the lack of witness cross-examination, they wrote the following on Friday, after the second prime time hearing: "No matter your views of the Jan. 6 special committee, the facts it is laying out in hearings are sobering. The most horrifying to date came Thursday in a hearing on President Trump's conduct as the riot raged and he sat watching TV, posting inflammatory tweets and refusing to send help."
Instead of making excuses or changing the subject, as some conservative commentators have done, the Journal's editorial said Trump "failed" to do his duty as commander in chief.
The Post's editorial page, which wrote last month that "we need a fresh start" with "a new crop of conservatives," went further in its editorial after Thursday's prime time hearing.
"It's up to the Justice Department to decide if this is a crime," the Post said. "But as a matter of principle, as a matter of character, Trump has proven himself unworthy to be this country's chief executive again."

omahacolt 07-24-2022 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234292)
Not reading any of that shit. There is the truth and then there is the media bullshit. You liberals buy into that, I choose not.
i have to hand it to you right wingers. you fall in line every time. you get your marching orders and you march. never question a thing


1-6 did happen and people do fucking care. how every american doesn't care is beyond me. propaganda works so amazingly well on right wingers.

if it ain't on tucker, it didn't happen

JAFF 07-24-2022 01:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234292)
Not reading any of that shit. There is the truth and then there is the media bullshit. You liberals buy into that, I choose not.
Rupert Murdoch just denounced Trump. Go google his name so it makes sense

JAFF 07-25-2022 07:24 AM
Fox News anchor Bret Baier slams Trump, saying January 6 hearings made him look 'horrific'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...fcdab818f08f2a


Fox News's Bret Baier said on Sunday that the picture painted by the January 6 committee made former President Donald Trump "look horrific."

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Baier, the network's Chief Political Anchor, spoke on "Media Buzz" in reaction to Thursday's session, which centered around 187 minutes of the Capitol riot, and Trump's actions and communications in that time — including remaining completely silent as the violence unfolded.

Baier, who has long been a critic of Trump, said: "Laying out all these 187 minutes makes him look horrific, it really does." The contrast between Trump's inaction and former Vice President Mike Pence's attempts to coordinate the administration, Baier said, was "very telling."

"To hear it and see it in that chronological order can be very powerful," he said.

Baier said that the hearings highlighting criticism by former Trump supporters and members of his administration — such as former Deputy National Security Adviser Matthew Pottinger and former Deputy White House Press Secretary Sarah Matthews — was especially persuasive.

"All of these people who have been testifying at one point or another wanted Trump to win," Baier said. "They served under his leadership. They wanted him to be a success."

Whether it changes the view of Republican voters is another matter, Baier said.

"The charges are that it's just not balanced," he said, in reference to the ongoing criticism that the hearings are one-sided. (A congressional committee hearing is supposed to publicize already-established findings, and Republican leaders boycotted involvement in the committee.)

Baier also called for more information on exactly what Trump said about mobilizing the National Guard in advance of the riot. If Trump had taken such action, Baier said, "it kind squelches or downplays the thought that he wanted this insurrection."

The Washington Post, with access to some of those conversations, reported that Trump never ordered the troops.

Baier's criticisms of Trump on the Rupert Murdoch-owned network are not unexpected, despite Fox's strongly conservative leanings.

But they by no means reflect the network's mainstream view. Fox's most-watched opinion host, Tucker Carlson invited former Trump strategist Steve Bannon onto his show on Friday just hours after Bannon had been found guilty of contempt of Congress for not appearing in the hearings.

Bannon called for a "real" hearing, baselessly saying the bipartisan committee currently gathered was presenting "lies and misrepresentations."

But last week's hearings prompted scathing editorials from two further Murdoch properties, The New York Post and The Wall Street Journal.

"Trump failed," said the Journal's editorial board on Friday.

"Trump's silence on January 6 is damning," said The New York Post's editorial board.

Two instances of clear condemnation from outlets which had been reluctant in the past were seen by some commentators as a sign that Murdoch was shifting further against Trump.

JAFF 07-26-2022 07:42 AM
Fox and friends no more for donnie
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...3707d6d83512c5

“@foxandfriends just really botched my poll numbers, no doubt on purpose,” Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social, the social network platforming he started after leaving office. “That show has been terrible — gone to the ‘dark side.’ They quickly quote the big Turning Point Poll victory of almost 60 points over the number two Republican, and then hammer me with outliers.”

JAFF 07-27-2022 11:14 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/26/polit...ury/index.html

Latest moves suggest DOJ investigation of 2020 election is looking at conduct directly related to Trump and his closest allies

JAFF 08-01-2022 04:50 PM
The cautious calculation behind whether Fox will dump Trump
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...3f484c1a3085c1

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The symbiotic, mutually advantageous bond between Rupert Murdoch’s media empire and Donald Trump has often been described as a romance or a love fest.

The cautious calculation behind whether Fox will dump Trump
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The cautious calculation behind whether Fox will dump Trump
Now that the relationship looks as if it may be headed to divorce court, let’s remember what really matters in any decision to split up: money and power.

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And let’s remember what doesn’t matter one whit: loyalty.

There’s no such thing on either side of this equation. In fact, I’d argue that neither side is capable of it.

The Murdochs and Trump aligned for mutual benefit. That may be changing.
Trump, after all, is the president who seemed to think the vicious calls of the mob on Jan. 6, 2021, to hang his ever-faithful Vice President Mike Pence were a pretty reasonable idea.

And he’s the same guy who mysteriously seems to forget close associates as soon as they cause him any trouble. After White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson — a frequent presence in his meetings whose workstation was mere steps away from the Oval Office — offered devastating testimony to the Jan. 6 select committee in June, Trump suffered the usual amnesia: “I hardly know who this person, Cassidy Hutchinson, is, other than I heard very negative things about her (a total phony and ‘leaker’) …”

Semper fidelis, in other words, isn’t really Trump’s strong suit. More appropriate is what legendary Chicago columnist Mike Royko suggested as a motto for his city where public officials often had their hands in the till: Ubi est mea? ( “Where’s mine?)

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As for the Murdochs, cold hard pragmatism will rule the day. If Trump continues to serve the media empire’s purposes as he has been doing so effectively for the past six years — bringing money in the form of ratings and viewership and benefiting Murdoch’s chosen political party — he’ll remain in favor.

If not, then he’ll be tossed overboard without an iota of regret, at least not by the top leadership: Rupert Murdoch and his increasingly important son, Lachlan.

Whether that will actually happen is not entirely clear. The signs are still a little murky and certainly open to interpretation.

On the one hand, the opinion pages of two Murdoch newspapers — the Wall Street Journal and the New York Post — have turned on Trump recently, both offering scathing editorials that blasted him for his role on Jan. 6, 2021, particularly his utter lack of leadership in calling off the dangerous mob. And, far more important than any newspaper editorial, his most valuable media ally, Fox News, has skipped much of the live coverage of the former president’s speeches and rallies while not interviewing him live for months.

Worse, the person emerging as his chief rival for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, has clearly caught the cable network’s eye.

But there’s still plenty of sycophancy on display. Just days ago, the talking heads of “Fox & Friends” — perhaps chastened by Trump’s raging that they had gone to the “dark side” after they reported some unfavorable poll numbers — once again stroked his fragile but oversize ego. Brian Kilmeade called him the “greatest golfing president ever,” and Ainsley Earhardt backed that up with one admiring exclamation: “Athletic!”

Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson showed up at Trump’s Saudi-funded golf tournament over the weekend in Bedminster, N.J., and yukked it up with the former president over an anti-Biden chant from the crowd.

The Murdochs, it seems clear, are waiting to see which way the wind blows.

Yes, they are having their doubts about Trump as the right horse to back, but most of all, they desperately want to hang onto the vast base of MAGA voters (and viewers) who haven’t quite made their minds up about moving on.

“Appearing loyal to Trump made them money, and the minute it stops making them money, they will stop doing it,” a former Fox News commentator was quoted in a weekend story from my colleagues Sarah Ellison and Jeremy Barr. The elder Murdoch may be personally disgusted, or at least put off, by Trump’s malfeasance as it has been revealed in the House hearings; that distaste is probably what’s being reflected in the Post and Journal editorials.

But we’re not there yet. And lofty ideals will have nothing to do with what ultimately happens. Pure pragmatism will rule the day.

Despite his occasional fits of pique, Trump will never really turn on Fox. After all, his social media platform, Truth Social, is no substitute for the constant blast of support that he can get from the most popular cable network in the land and from its prime-time stars. And the television alternatives he once touted, such as One America News and Newsmax, have not gotten the job done.

But the soulless expediency runs in both directions. If Trump manages to snag the Republican nomination in 2024 — very far from impossible despite his falling star — Fox will be right there by his side with pompoms and megaphone at the ready.

Not because of personal affection. Not because of stalwart loyalty. But because that will be the best bet for maintaining what really matters.

Spike 08-02-2022 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 234434)
i have to hand it to you right wingers. you fall in line every time. you get your marching orders and you march. never question a thing


1-6 did happen and people do fucking care. how every american doesn't care is beyond me. propaganda works so amazingly well on right wingers.

if it ain't on tucker, it didn't happen
Right wingers fall in line? unlike the leftists??? LOL! You continue to want to judge me Omaha, not that I give a Rat's ass. I don't fall in line for anyone, fucking democrats or republicans. Marching orders, that's so fucking dumb. I served this country, as did my dad and uncles and I care about this country and I am opposed to anyone trying to destroy it. Some democrats are trying to fuck it up and so are a some republicans. If Trump is guilty of being a traitor, lock his ass up, I've already stated this, along with Pelosi, the Clintons, Bush, etc... I don't give a shit if they are Democrats and Republicans.

JAFF 08-02-2022 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 235035)
Right wingers fall in line? unlike the leftists??? LOL! You continue to want to judge me Omaha, not that I give a Rat's ass. I don't fall in line for anyone, fucking democrats or republicans. Marching orders, that's so fucking dumb. I served this country, as did my dad and uncles and I care about this country and I am opposed to anyone trying to destroy it. Some democrats are trying to fuck it up and so are a some republicans. If Trump is guilty of being a traitor, lock his ass up, I've already stated this, along with Pelosi, the Clintons, Bush, etc... I don't give a shit if they are Democrats and Republicans.
I would think you would be unhappy with the Pubs stiffing military vets by voting down a bill to get vets who are suffering from exposure to the burn pits they used overseas.

What really bothers me is the Pub leadership celebrating , on Senate floor. This was a done deal and what they did was payback for some other nonsense. And they fucked the military in the process.

JAFF 08-02-2022 04:54 PM
A federal judge dismissed Trump's request to toss out 3 Capitol Police officer lawsui
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...15670af4719673

omahacolt 08-03-2022 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike (Post 235035)
Right wingers fall in line? unlike the leftists??? LOL! You continue to want to judge me Omaha, not that I give a Rat's ass. I don't fall in line for anyone, fucking democrats or republicans. Marching orders, that's so fucking dumb. I served this country, as did my dad and uncles and I care about this country and I am opposed to anyone trying to destroy it. Some democrats are trying to fuck it up and so are a some republicans. If Trump is guilty of being a traitor, lock his ass up, I've already stated this, along with Pelosi, the Clintons, Bush, etc... I don't give a shit if they are Democrats and Republicans.
if you want to take yourself out of the right wingers equation then fine. but you sure make a lot of posts that say otherwise.

point still stands, right wingers tow the party line in remarkable fashion. even voting against their own self interests. its insane but fascinating

Spike 08-04-2022 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 235179)
if you want to take yourself out of the right wingers equation then fine. but you sure make a lot of posts that say otherwise.

point still stands, right wingers tow the party line in remarkable fashion. even voting against their own self interests. its insane but fascinating
I do lean right, not hiding that fact.

JAFF 08-05-2022 06:11 PM
DOJ talks with Trump lawyers mark a grave moment for the ex-President

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/05/polit...obe/index.html

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“Understanding what it means if the facts and the evidence are there, and they decide not to prosecute – how do we then call ourselves a nation of laws?,” said Cheney, one of two Republicans on the panel.

CNN senior legal analyst Preet Bharara said that the fact that Trump’s lawyers are already in communication with the investigation suggests they believe he may have some significant exposure down the line.

“Actively engaging suggests to me that the lawyers think that there is some jeopardy here and they should engage sooner rather than later,” Bharara, a former US attorney for the Southern District of New York, told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. Bharara cautioned that the investigation could last a long time and that a decision “about whether or not to charge Donald Trump” could occur many months from now.

Learning what Trump was saying and thinking as his mob smashed its way into the US Capitol and during his prior schemes designed to overturn his election loss could help establish whether the ex-President acted with corrupt intent and could be at risk of being criminally charged.

JAFF 08-08-2022 07:16 PM
FBI executes search warrant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago, former President says
 
FBI executes search warrant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago, former President says

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/08/polit...ump/index.html

Phones, documents, papers in the toliet

JAFF 08-08-2022 10:05 PM
For Spike…Trump says Mar-a-Lago home in Florida 'under siege' by FBI agents
 
From fox news

https://www.foxnews.com/shows/fox-nation

Check it out. Lol

JAFF 08-10-2022 02:48 PM
Trump takes the fifth….
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...37cfc518230c17

JAFF 08-10-2022 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 232519)
Nothing from any main stream media source is valid as fact. Sorry, they have taken away that assumption themselves the last decade when it went full on prime time comedy.

I know what sedation is, and even though January, 6th. was a shit show, it did not remotely meet the criteria to call it an insurrection. Liberalism is truly a mental disorder. Nobody can be that mentally dysfunctional without an underlying cause.
A group of people following trumps request stormed the capitol to stop the electoral college from finalizing the election.

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in·​sur·​rec·​tion | \ ˌin(t)-sə-ˈrek-shən \
Definition of insurrection
: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

Love the interweb

JAFF 08-10-2022 07:12 PM
Insider information
 
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-i...-where-1732283

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The raid on Mar-a-Lago was based largely on information from an FBI confidential human source, one who was able to identify what classified documents former President Trump was still hiding and even the location of those documents, two senior government officials told Newsweek.

The officials, who have direct knowledge of the FBI's deliberations and were granted anonymity in order to discuss sensitive matters, said the raid of Donald Trump's Florida residence was deliberately timed to occur when the former president was away.

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A confidential informer told the FBI what documents Donald Trump was hiding at Mar-a-Lago, and where. The former president at a rally on August 05, 2022 in Waukesha, Wisconsin.
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FBI decision-makers in Washington and Miami thought that denying the former president a photo opportunity or a platform from which to grandstand (or to attempt to thwart the raid) would lower the profile of the event, says one of the sources, a senior Justice Department official who is a 30-year veteran of the FBI.

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The effort to keep the raid low-key failed: instead, it prompted a furious response from GOP leaders and Trump supporters. "What a spectacular backfire," says the Justice official.

"I know that there is much speculation out there that this is political persecution, but it is really the best and the worst of the bureaucracy in action," the official says. "They wanted to punctuate the fact that this was a routine law enforcement action, stripped of any political overtones, and yet [they] got exactly the opposite."


Both senior government officials say the raid was scheduled with no political motive, the FBI solely intent on recovering highly classified documents that were illegally removed from the White House. Preparations to conduct such an operation began weeks ago, but in planning the date and time, the FBI Miami Field Office and Washington headquarters were focused on the former president's scheduled return to Florida from his residences in New York and New Jersey.

"They were seeking to avoid any media circus," says the second source, a senior intelligence official who was briefed on the investigation and the operation. "So even though everything made sense bureaucratically and the FBI feared that the documents might be destroyed, they also created the very firestorm they sought to avoid, in ignoring the fallout."

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A "Florida For Trump" flag outside Mar-a-Lago
A "Florida For Trump" flag being displayed outside Mar-a-Lago following the FBI search.
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On Monday at about 10 a.m. EST, two dozen FBI agents and technicians showed up at Donald Trump's Florida home to execute a search warrant to obtain any government-owned documents that might be in the possession of Trump but are required to be delivered to the Archives under the provisions of the 1978 Presidential Records Act. (In response to the Hillary Clinton email scandal, Trump himself signed a law in 2018 that made it a felony to remove and retain classified documents.)

The act establishes that presidential records are the property of the U.S. government and not a president's private property. Put in place after Watergate to avoid the abuses of the Nixon administration, the law imposes strict penalties for failure to comply. "Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined" $2,000, up to three years in prison or "shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States."


The act, and concerns about the illegal possession of classified "national defense information" are the bases for the search warrant, according to the two sources. The raid had nothing to do with the January 6 investigation or any other alleged wrongdoing by the former president.


The road to the raid began a year-and-a-half ago, when in the transition from the Trump administration to that of President Joe Biden, there were immediate questions raised by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) as to whether the presidential records turned over to the federal agency for historical preservation were complete or not.

In February, Archivist David Ferriero testified before Congress that his agency began talking with Trump's people right after they left office and that the Trump camp had already returned 15 boxes of documents to the Archives. Ferriero said that in those materials, the Archives discovered items "marked as classified national security information," unleashing further inquiries as to whether Trump continued to possess classified material.

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The basic outlines of the facts surrounding this timeline have been confirmed by the former president. He has previously said that he was returning any official records to the Archives, labeling any confusion in the matter as "an ordinary and routine process to ensure the preservation of my legacy and in accordance with the Presidential Records Act." He also claimed the Archives "did not 'find' anything" in what he had already been returned, suggesting that there was nothing sensitive. He said the documents had inadvertently shipped to Florida during the six-hour transition period in which his belongings were moved.

According to the Justice Department source, the Archives saw things differently, believing that the former White House was stonewalling and continued to possess unauthorized material. Earlier this year, they asked the Justice Department to investigate.


In late April, the source says, a federal grand jury began deliberating whether there was a violation of the Presidential Records Act or whether President Trump unlawfully possessed national security information. Through the grand jury process, the National Archives provided federal prosecutors with copies of the documents received from former President Trump in January 2022. The grand jury concluded that there had been a violation of the law, according to the Justice Department source.

In the past week, the prosecutor in the case and local Assistant U.S. Attorney went to Florida magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart in West Palm Beach to seek approval for the search of Donald Trump's private residence. The affidavit to obtain the search warrant, the intelligence source says, contained abundant and persuasive detail that Trump continued to possess the relevant records in violation of federal law, and that investigators had sufficient information to prove that those records were located at Mar-a-Lago—including the detail that they were contained in a specific safe in a specific room.

"In order for the investigators to convince the Florida judge to approve such an unprecedented raid, the information had to be solid, which the FBI claimed," says the intelligence source.


According to experts familiar with FBI practices, Judge Reinhart reviewed the prosecutor's evidence and asked numerous questions about the sources and the urgency. The judge signed a search warrant allowing the FBI to look for relevant material and the FBI then planned the operation, wanting to conduct the raid while Trump was spending time at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey. A Secret Service source who spoke on background said the Secret Service director was given advance warning and was later told the specifics of the raid.

Because the Secret Service is still responsible for protecting the former president, his family, and his property, the FBI had to coordinate with the Secret Service to gain access to the grounds.

A convoy of unmarked black SUVs and a Ryder rental truck filled with about three dozen FBI special agents and technicians entered the gates in the early evening. Heavily armed Secret Service agents were also visibly present at the gates. The Palm Beach Police Department was also present at the scene.


The entire operation was conducted relatively stealthily. No FBI people were seen in their iconic blue windbreakers announcing the presence of the Bureau. And though local law enforcement was present, the Palm Beach Police Department was careful to tweet on Tuesday that it "was not aware of the existence of a search warrant nor did our department assist the FBI in the execution of a search warrant."

According to news reports, some 10-15 boxes of documents were removed from the premises. Donald Trump said in a statement that the FBI opened his personal safe as part of their search. Trump attorney Lindsey Halligan, who was present during the multi-hour search, says that the FBI targeted three rooms—a bedroom, an office and a storage room. That suggests that the FBI knew specifically where to look.

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"This unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate," former President Trump said in a statement. He called the raid "prosecutorial misconduct, the weaponization of the Justice System, and an attack by Radical Left Democrats who desperately don't want me to run for President in 2024."

Though Trump and his Republican Party allies are portraying the raid as politically motivated, it is likely the unprecedented nature of the raid on the property of a former president will have the greatest reverberation. Even Trump's political rivals have rallied in condemning the FBI.

Former Vice President Mike Pence tweeted that "no former President of the United States has ever been subject to a raid of their personal residence in American history." Mike Pompeo, Trump's Secretary of State and CIA director, tweeted that Attorney General Merrick Garland "must explain why 250 yrs of practice was upended w/ this raid. I served on Benghazi Com[mittee] where we proved Hillary possessed classified info. We didn't raid her home."


The Biden White House says the president was not briefed about the Mar-a-Lago raid and knew nothing about it in advance. "The Justice Department conducts investigations independently and we leave any law enforcement matters to them," Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said Tuesday afternoon. "It would not be appropriate for us to comment on any ongoing investigations."

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The senior Justice Department source says that Garland was regularly briefed on the Records Act investigation, and that he knew about the grand jury and what material federal prosecutors were seeking. He insists, though, that Garland had no prior knowledge of the date and time of the specific raid, nor was he asked to approve it. "I know it's hard for people to believe," says the official, "but this was a matter for the U.S. Attorney and the FBI."

JAFF 08-10-2022 07:17 PM
Insider information
 
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-i...-where-1732283

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The raid on Mar-a-Lago was based largely on information from an FBI confidential human source, one who was able to identify what classified documents former President Trump was still hiding and even the location of those documents, two senior government officials told Newsweek.

The officials, who have direct knowledge of the FBI's deliberations and were granted anonymity in order to discuss sensitive matters, said the raid of Donald Trump's Florida residence was deliberately timed to occur when the former president was away.

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A confidential informer told the FBI what documents Donald Trump was hiding at Mar-a-Lago, and where. The former president at a rally on August 05, 2022 in Waukesha, Wisconsin.
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FBI decision-makers in Washington and Miami thought that denying the former president a photo opportunity or a platform from which to grandstand (or to attempt to thwart the raid) would lower the profile of the event, says one of the sources, a senior Justice Department official who is a 30-year veteran of the FBI.

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The effort to keep the raid low-key failed: instead, it prompted a furious response from GOP leaders and Trump supporters. "What a spectacular backfire," says the Justice official.

"I know that there is much speculation out there that this is political persecution, but it is really the best and the worst of the bureaucracy in action," the official says. "They wanted to punctuate the fact that this was a routine law enforcement action, stripped of any political overtones, and yet [they] got exactly the opposite."


Both senior government officials say the raid was scheduled with no political motive, the FBI solely intent on recovering highly classified documents that were illegally removed from the White House. Preparations to conduct such an operation began weeks ago, but in planning the date and time, the FBI Miami Field Office and Washington headquarters were focused on the former president's scheduled return to Florida from his residences in New York and New Jersey.

"They were seeking to avoid any media circus," says the second source, a senior intelligence official who was briefed on the investigation and the operation. "So even though everything made sense bureaucratically and the FBI feared that the documents might be destroyed, they also created the very firestorm they sought to avoid, in ignoring the fallout."

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A "Florida For Trump" flag being displayed outside Mar-a-Lago following the FBI search.
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On Monday at about 10 a.m. EST, two dozen FBI agents and technicians showed up at Donald Trump's Florida home to execute a search warrant to obtain any government-owned documents that might be in the possession of Trump but are required to be delivered to the Archives under the provisions of the 1978 Presidential Records Act. (In response to the Hillary Clinton email scandal, Trump himself signed a law in 2018 that made it a felony to remove and retain classified documents.)

The act establishes that presidential records are the property of the U.S. government and not a president's private property. Put in place after Watergate to avoid the abuses of the Nixon administration, the law imposes strict penalties for failure to comply. "Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined" $2,000, up to three years in prison or "shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States."


The act, and concerns about the illegal possession of classified "national defense information" are the bases for the search warrant, according to the two sources. The raid had nothing to do with the January 6 investigation or any other alleged wrongdoing by the former president.


The road to the raid began a year-and-a-half ago, when in the transition from the Trump administration to that of President Joe Biden, there were immediate questions raised by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) as to whether the presidential records turned over to the federal agency for historical preservation were complete or not.

In February, Archivist David Ferriero testified before Congress that his agency began talking with Trump's people right after they left office and that the Trump camp had already returned 15 boxes of documents to the Archives. Ferriero said that in those materials, the Archives discovered items "marked as classified national security information," unleashing further inquiries as to whether Trump continued to possess classified material.

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The basic outlines of the facts surrounding this timeline have been confirmed by the former president. He has previously said that he was returning any official records to the Archives, labeling any confusion in the matter as "an ordinary and routine process to ensure the preservation of my legacy and in accordance with the Presidential Records Act." He also claimed the Archives "did not 'find' anything" in what he had already been returned, suggesting that there was nothing sensitive. He said the documents had inadvertently shipped to Florida during the six-hour transition period in which his belongings were moved.

According to the Justice Department source, the Archives saw things differently, believing that the former White House was stonewalling and continued to possess unauthorized material. Earlier this year, they asked the Justice Department to investigate.


In late April, the source says, a federal grand jury began deliberating whether there was a violation of the Presidential Records Act or whether President Trump unlawfully possessed national security information. Through the grand jury process, the National Archives provided federal prosecutors with copies of the documents received from former President Trump in January 2022. The grand jury concluded that there had been a violation of the law, according to the Justice Department source.

In the past week, the prosecutor in the case and local Assistant U.S. Attorney went to Florida magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart in West Palm Beach to seek approval for the search of Donald Trump's private residence. The affidavit to obtain the search warrant, the intelligence source says, contained abundant and persuasive detail that Trump continued to possess the relevant records in violation of federal law, and that investigators had sufficient information to prove that those records were located at Mar-a-Lago—including the detail that they were contained in a specific safe in a specific room.

"In order for the investigators to convince the Florida judge to approve such an unprecedented raid, the information had to be solid, which the FBI claimed," says the intelligence source.


According to experts familiar with FBI practices, Judge Reinhart reviewed the prosecutor's evidence and asked numerous questions about the sources and the urgency. The judge signed a search warrant allowing the FBI to look for relevant material and the FBI then planned the operation, wanting to conduct the raid while Trump was spending time at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey. A Secret Service source who spoke on background said the Secret Service director was given advance warning and was later told the specifics of the raid.

Because the Secret Service is still responsible for protecting the former president, his family, and his property, the FBI had to coordinate with the Secret Service to gain access to the grounds.

A convoy of unmarked black SUVs and a Ryder rental truck filled with about three dozen FBI special agents and technicians entered the gates in the early evening. Heavily armed Secret Service agents were also visibly present at the gates. The Palm Beach Police Department was also present at the scene.


The entire operation was conducted relatively stealthily. No FBI people were seen in their iconic blue windbreakers announcing the presence of the Bureau. And though local law enforcement was present, the Palm Beach Police Department was careful to tweet on Tuesday that it "was not aware of the existence of a search warrant nor did our department assist the FBI in the execution of a search warrant."

According to news reports, some 10-15 boxes of documents were removed from the premises. Donald Trump said in a statement that the FBI opened his personal safe as part of their search. Trump attorney Lindsey Halligan, who was present during the multi-hour search, says that the FBI targeted three rooms—a bedroom, an office and a storage room. That suggests that the FBI knew specifically where to look.

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"This unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate," former President Trump said in a statement. He called the raid "prosecutorial misconduct, the weaponization of the Justice System, and an attack by Radical Left Democrats who desperately don't want me to run for President in 2024."

Though Trump and his Republican Party allies are portraying the raid as politically motivated, it is likely the unprecedented nature of the raid on the property of a former president will have the greatest reverberation. Even Trump's political rivals have rallied in condemning the FBI.

Former Vice President Mike Pence tweeted that "no former President of the United States has ever been subject to a raid of their personal residence in American history." Mike Pompeo, Trump's Secretary of State and CIA director, tweeted that Attorney General Merrick Garland "must explain why 250 yrs of practice was upended w/ this raid. I served on Benghazi Com[mittee] where we proved Hillary possessed classified info. We didn't raid her home."


The Biden White House says the president was not briefed about the Mar-a-Lago raid and knew nothing about it in advance. "The Justice Department conducts investigations independently and we leave any law enforcement matters to them," Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said Tuesday afternoon. "It would not be appropriate for us to comment on any ongoing investigations."

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The senior Justice Department source says that Garland was regularly briefed on the Records Act investigation, and that he knew about the grand jury and what material federal prosecutors were seeking. He insists, though, that Garland had no prior knowledge of the date and time of the specific raid, nor was he asked to approve it. "I know it's hard for people to believe," says the official, "but this was a matter for the U.S. Attorney and the FBI."

JAFF 08-11-2022 07:09 PM
Garland just put Trump in A figure 4 leg lock
 
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/11/polit...ent/index.html

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In his first public statement since federal agents searched former President Donald Trump's home at Mar-a-Lago earlier this week, Attorney General Merrick Garland on Thursday said that the Justice Department had filed in court a request that the search warrant and property receipt from the search be unsealed.

Garland also said he "personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant in this matter."
He noted that the department did not comment on the search on the day that it occurred. He pointed out that the search was confirmed by Trump that evening. He said that copies of the warrant and the warrant receipt were provided to the Trump lawyers who were on site during the search.
"The Department filed the motion to make public the warrant and receipt in light of the former president's public confirmation of the search, the surrounding circumstances and the substantial public interest in this matter," Garland said. "Faithful adherence to the rule of law is the bedrock principle of the Justice Department and of our democracy. Upholding the rule of law means applying the law evenly without fear or favor. Under my watch, that is precisely what the Justice Department is doing."

The statement comes after days of silence from the Justice Department with regard to the search, as is the department's normal practice for ongoing investigations. Garland stressed that some of the department's work must happen outside of public view.
"We do that to protect the constitutional rights of all Americans and to protect the integrity of our investigations," he said, while explaining that he would not provide more detail about the basis of the search.
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Trump and his legal team have not yet reached a decision on how to respond to the Justice Department's motion to unseal the warrant, a source familiar with their thinking told CNN.
In a pair of posts to Truth Social following Garland's statement, Trump continued to claim that his attorneys were "cooperating fully" and had developed "very good relationships" with federal investigators prior to Monday's search at Mar-a-Lago.
"The government could have had whatever they wanted, if we had it," Trump said. "Everything was fine, better than most previous Presidents, and then, out of nowhere and with no warning, Mar-a-Lago was raided, at 6:30 in the morning, by VERY large numbers of agents, and even 'safecrackers.'"
The Justice Department has been instructed by the court to confer with Trump about its request to unseal certain warrant documents from the FBI Mar-a-Lago search and to tell the court by Friday 3 p.m. ET if he opposes their release.
Justice Department asks court for documents to be released
The FBI executed a search warrant Monday at the Palm Beach, Florida, resort as part of an investigation into the handling of presidential documents, including classified documents, that may have been brought there.
Newly filed court documents outline what the Justice Department has officially moved to do Thursday.
"On August 8, 2022, the Department of Justice executed a search warrant, issued by this Court upon the requisite finding of probable cause... at the premises located at 1100 S. Ocean Blvd., Palm Beach, Florida 33480, a property of former President Donald J. Trump," the motion reads.
"At the time the warrant was initially executed, the Department provided notice directly to former President Trump's counsel. The Department did not make any public statements about the search, and the search apparently attracted little or no public attention as it was taking place. Later that same day, former President Trump issued a public statement acknowledging the execution of the warrant. In the days since, the search warrant and related materials have been the subject of significant interest and attention from news media organizations and other entities," the Justice Department writes.

DOJ then argues for unsealing the search warrant, citing "the intense public interest presented by a search of a residence of a former President."


The filing confirms that the search warrant was "signed and approved by the Court on August 5." On Thursday, the DOJ filed "the redacted Property Receipt listing items seized pursuant to the search," according to its unsealing motion.
"Former President Trump, through counsel, was provided copies of each of these documents on August 8, 2022, as part of the execution of the search," the filing adds.
Earlier this year, officials from the National Archives arranged the retrieval of 15 boxes of presidential documents from Mar-a-Lago. In June, federal investigators served a grand jury subpoena and took away sensitive national security documents.
Then, according to sources, prosecutors developed evidence that there were potentially classified documents with national security implications remaining at the property.

FBI officials under attack

Republican lawmakers have lashed out at the department, calling the search politically motivated. Several lawmakers on the right have called for increased oversight of the department, and some have even suggested defunding the FBI or that agents planted evidence at the Florida estate.
Violent threats also have exploded online since the search. Posters have written things like "Garland needs to be assassinated" and "kill all feds." The biography and contact information of a federal magistrate judge who appears to have signed the search warrant used to execute the search at Mar-a-Lago has been wiped from a Florida court's website after he too became the target of violent threats.
In a message reviewed by CNN on Thursday moments ahead of the public statement, FBI Director Chris Wray told the bureau's employees their "safety and security" was his "primary concern right now.

"There has been a lot of commentary about the FBI this week questioning our work and motives," Wray said. "Much of it is from critics and pundits on the outside who don't know what we know and don't see what we see. What I know — and what I see — is an organization made up of men and women who are committed to doing their jobs professionally and by the book every day; this week is no exception."
In his public comments, Garland also called out the "unfounded attacks on the professionalism of the FBI and Justice Department agents and prosecutors."
"I will not stand by silently when their integrity is unfairly attacked. The men and women of the FBI and the Justice Department are dedicated patriotic public servants," he said. "Every day, they protect the American people from violent crime, terrorism and other threats to their safety while safeguarding our civil rights. They do so at great personal sacrifice and risk to themselves. I am honored to work alongside them."
He should be sitting in the Supreme Court, except for the republican senators.

Karma is a BITCH

JAFF 08-11-2022 09:13 PM
FBI searched Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence for classified nuclear documents
 
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/11/polit...nts/index.html

The FBI sought to locate classified documents related to nuclear weapons, among other items, when agents searched former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, this week, people familiar with the investigation told The Washington Post.

The people did not offer additional details to the Post about what the agents were seeking or whether any documents were recovered.
Attorney General Merrick Garland said Thursday that he "personally approved" the decision to seek a warrant for the search of Trump's Florida home.
"The department does not take such a decision lightly. Where possible, it is standard practice to seek less intrusive means as an alternative to a search and to narrowly scope any search that is undertaken," Garland said in a news conference.


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi...st-2022-08-12/

WASHINGTON, Aug 11 (Reuters) - U.S. federal agents were looking for documents relating to nuclear weapons when they searched former President Donald Trump's home in Florida this week, the Washington Post reported on Thursday.

It was not clear if such documents were recovered, the Post reported.


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FBI agents appear to have been on the hunt for classified documents related to nuclear weapons during their raid of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort on Monday, according to a report.

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Sources told the Washington Post that such classified information was among the items agents look for in the search, but declined to speak about any other materials that may have been sought. It remains unclear whether they found any nuclear documents, but experts cited in the report said this adds credence to fears by government officials that they could be obtained by bad actors.

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Amid a political firestorm, in which Trump has decried the raid as being politically motivated, Attorney General Merrick Garland announced Thursday that he had personally approved the FBI’s decision to seek a search warrant.

Federal investigators served a grand jury subpoena in June and collected documents believed to contain sensitive national security information stashed in the basement of the resort, CNN reported. The Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday that "someone familiar with the stored papers" told investigators there were still possibly more classified materials at the private club, and it noted there was doubt among Justice Department officials that Trump's team was being truthful about what records remained at Mar-a-Lago.

All this took place months after the National Archives and Records Administration collected about 15 boxes worth of material from Mar-a-Lago that officials said should have been turned over after Trump left office. Officials at the National Archives said they found classified material in the trove and referred the matter to the Justice Department.

FBI agents took about a dozen boxes in the latest raid, Trump's lawyer said.

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In a flurry of Truth Social posts on Thursday, Trump complained of being targeted in the raid without warning.

"My attorneys and representatives were cooperating fully, and very good relationships had been established," Trump said. "The government could have had whatever they wanted, if we had it. They asked us to put an additional lock on a certain area - DONE! Everything was fine, better than that of most previous Presidents, and then, out of nowhere and with no warning, Mar-a-Lago was raided, at 6:30 in the morning, by VERY large numbers of agents, and even 'safecrackers.' They got way ahead of themselves. Crazy!"

JAFF 08-15-2022 10:13 AM
Judge: Sen. Graham must testify in Georgia election probe
 
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ATLANTA (AP) — A federal judge on Monday said U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham must testify before a special grand jury in Atlanta that is investigating whether former President Donald Trump and his allies broke any laws while trying to overturn his narrow 2020 general election loss in the state.

FILE - Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., addresses a South Carolina GOP dinner July 29, 2022, in Columbia, S.C. Graham has brought on former President Donald Trump's former White House counsel Don McGahn, who was in federal court in Atlanta last week as part of a legal team fighting a subpoena for Graham(AP Photo/Meg Kinnard, File)
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FILE - Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., addresses a South Carolina GOP dinner July 29, 2022, in Columbia, S.C. Graham has brought on former President Donald Trump's former White House counsel Don McGahn, who was in federal court in Atlanta last week as part of a legal team fighting a subpoena for Graham(AP Photo/Meg Kinnard, File)
Attorneys for Graham, R-S.C., had argued that his position as a U.S. senator provided him immunity from having to appear before the investigative panel and asked the judge to quash his subpoena. But U.S. District Judge Leigh Martin May wrote in an order Monday that immunities related to his role as a senator do not protect him in this case, and he must appear before the special grand jury on Aug. 23.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis opened the investigation last year, and a special grand jury with subpoena power was seated in May at her request. Last month she filed petitions seeking to compel testimony from seven Trump advisers and associates.

Prosecutors have indicated they want to ask Graham about phone calls they say he made to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and his staff in the weeks following the election.

Graham had argued that a provision of the Constitution provides absolute protection against a senator being questioned about legislative acts. But the judge found there are “considerable areas of potential grand jury inquiry” that fall outside that provision’s scope. The judge also rejected Graham’s argument that the principle of “sovereign immunity” protects a senator from being summoned by a state prosecutor.

Graham also argued that Willis, a Democrat, had not demonstrated extraordinary circumstances necessary to compel testimony from a high-ranking official. But the judge disagreed, finding that Willis has shown “extraordinary circumstances and a special need” for Graham’s testimony on issues related to alleged attempt to influence or disrupt the election in Georgia.

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Kevin Bishop, a Graham spokesman, said Monday the senator had no comment but referred to what Graham said when asked about the probe last week. During a news conference in Columbia, S.C., Graham said, “We will take this as far as we need to take it” when asked about his efforts to fight appearing to testify.

“I was chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and had to vote on certifying an election,” Graham told reporters. “This is ridiculous. This weaponization of the law needs to stop. So I will use the courts. We will go as far as we need to go and do whatever needs to be done to make sure that people like me can do their jobs without fear of some county prosecutor coming after you.”

During the calls cited by Willis, Graham “questioned Secretary Raffensperger and his staff about reexamining certain absentee ballots cast in Georgia in order to explore the possibility of a more favorable outcome for former President Donald Trump,” Willis wrote in a petition.

Graham also “made reference to allegations of widespread voter fraud in the November 2020 election in Georgia, consistent with public statements made by known affiliates of the Trump Campaign,” she wrote.

Republican and Democratic state election officials, courts and even Trump's attorney general found there was no evidence of any voter fraud sufficient to affect the outcome of his 2020 presidential election loss to Democrat Joe Biden.

Spike 08-15-2022 11:53 AM
LMAO with you liberals. The FBI going after Trump is going to backfire so bad on the liberals. People who were on the fence are now pissed off about this BS now too. Mid-terms must be coming up for the dems to stoop this fucking low. I didn't really know who I was going to vote for in 2024, but now, I will be voting for Trump because I hate this banana fucking republic we have turned into.

Why wasn't Hillary treated this way? Why weren't the Biden's treated this way? Just political bullshit and leftists can't see this, saddens me really.

The only democrat who could run for president that I would vote for is Tulsi Gabbard. Warren? fuck no. Sanders? fuck no. Butthead? fuck no.

I love America and I am saddened by all the bullshit going on now. This woke bullshit is fucking insane, and I worry about our future, as you Jaff should be. I didn't serve in the military for this BS.

Lov2fish 08-15-2022 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 236012)
LMAO with you liberals. The FBI going after Trump is going to backfire so bad on the liberals. People who were on the fence are now pissed off about this BS now too. Mid-terms must be coming up for the dems to stoop this fucking low. I didn't really know who I was going to vote for in 2024, but now, I will be voting for Trump because I hate this banana fucking republic we have turned into.

Why wasn't Hillary treated this way? Why weren't the Biden's treated this way? Just political bullshit and leftists can't see this, saddens me really.

The only democrat who could run for president that I would vote for is Tulsi Gabbard. Warren? fuck no. Sanders? fuck no. Butthead? fuck no.

I love America and I am saddened by all the bullshit going on now. This woke bullshit is fucking insane, and I worry about our future, as you Jaff should be. I didn't serve in the military for this BS.
Smoke and mirrors. Give them bread and circuses!

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 08-15-2022 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 236019)
Smoke and mirrors. Give them bread and circuses!
Are you talking about Trump or Biden - it applies in either case!!

Lov2fish 08-15-2022 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by alwayssunnyinindy (Post 236022)
are you talking about trump or biden - it applies in either case!!
yes....

JAFF 08-15-2022 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 236019)
Smoke and mirrors. Give them bread and circuses!
No,its about having top secret papers unsecured in Florida. And no, they were not declassified. Trump cant wave a magic chicken leg over boxes and declare them declassified. Any declassified papers are still held in a secure location controlled by NARLA

Racehorse 08-15-2022 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 236012)
LMAO with you liberals. The FBI going after Trump is going to backfire so bad on the liberals. People who were on the fence are now pissed off about this BS now too. Mid-terms must be coming up for the dems to stoop this fucking low. I didn't really know who I was going to vote for in 2024, but now, I will be voting for Trump because I hate this banana fucking republic we have turned into.

Why wasn't Hillary treated this way? Why weren't the Biden's treated this way? Just political bullshit and leftists can't see this, saddens me really.

The only democrat who could run for president that I would vote for is Tulsi Gabbard. Warren? fuck no. Sanders? fuck no. Butthead? fuck no.

I love America and I am saddened by all the bullshit going on now. This woke bullshit is fucking insane, and I worry about our future, as you Jaff should be. I didn't serve in the military for this BS.
I hope Trump does not run. water under the bridge...


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