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AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-14-2022 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 225849)
Bridgewater might be a good bridge QB

Bridgewater is signing a 1 year deal to be the Dolphins QB2 per Schefter

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...72831430074382

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Former Broncos QB Teddy Bridgewater intends to sign a one-year deal to be the backup QB for the Miami Dolphins, per league sources.

rcubed 03-14-2022 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 225864)
Using that formula the Colts will have their QB when, 2026, maybe 2025 ?? Just in time to start the rebuild all over again ! Ballard should target a guy that could be the guy, and go balls to the wall to try to get him ( to be honest I have no idea who that could be ), he can't just keep kicking the can down the road year after year

you put it in your own damn post "to be honest I have no idea who that could be"

with the lack of a difference maker available you dont do something stupid like give up picks for a lackluster guy that you will probably get rid of in a few years anyway.

maybe we should have pushed harder for stafford last year. there is no one this year. rodgers wasnt leaving GB and wilson had a no trade and wasnt coming here.

maybe jimmy g can be good for us but I would hope we wouldnt give up anything more than a 3 for him.

rm1369 03-14-2022 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 225854)
Ehlinger then 2023 draft. It’s not like Colts are going to the super bowl with a qb off the scrap pile anyway.

Ehlinger has shown no indication he can be even a mediocre starting QB. You don’t have to trade for someone but you have to at least sign someone who has started a few games. That’s for the fans and the other players on this team. Saying you are mailing in the season 5 years into your tenure is not a good look - regardless of the shitty hand Ballard was dealt with Lucks retirement.

Lov2fish 03-14-2022 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 225904)
Ehlinger has shown no indication he can be even a mediocre starting QB. You don’t have to trade for someone but you have to at least sign someone who has started a few games. That’s for the fans and the other players on this team. Saying you are mailing in the season 5 years into your tenure is not a good look - regardless of the shitty hand Ballard was dealt with Lucks retirement.

He is not going to send fear up the back of opposing coaches, but he does know the playbook, he can read pre snap defenses. Not keen on his arm strength, but I do like the ball comes out quick and not indecisive about it. As a young QB I am positive he will get fooled a few times and throw a head scratching pick. Compared to what is available via free agency and in the draft its a wash for me. Fuck it, we got nothing else to lose except the entire season.

Oldcolt 03-14-2022 06:08 PM

Why do people think Ehlinger is good at reading defenses? And what good does it do if you are crap at anticipation and accuracy. The reports coming out of college were that he was shit at anticipation throws and had accuracy issues. With an arm as weak as he has he needs to be pin point accurate and have great anticipation to be successful in the NFL. The best thing that was said about him was his toughness (he likes to lower his shoulder, not a good thing in the NFL) and leadership. I think he has the makings of an good back up but if he is our starting QB me thinks we are in big trouble.

Lov2fish 03-14-2022 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 225912)
Why do people think Ehlinger is good at reading defenses? And what good does it do if you are crap at anticipation and accuracy. The reports coming out of college were that he was shit at anticipation throws and had accuracy issues. With an arm as weak as he has he needs to be pin point accurate and have great anticipation to be successful in the NFL. The best thing that was said about him was his toughness (he likes to lower his shoulder, not a good thing in the NFL) and leadership. I think he has the makings of an good back up but if he is our starting QB me thinks we are in big trouble.

I like to gamble on college football. I saw him play about 5-6 times. They were playing cupcakes so take it with a grain of salt. He was pinpoint accurate and the ball came out as soon as his back foot planted.

The same prognosticators also said Brady was a 6th. or 7th. round pick. A career backup. That assessment sure aged well!

Dewey 5 03-14-2022 06:17 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchef...89968139816962

Houston has declined Indianapolis’ attempt to speak with Deshaun Watson, per source. Houston comfortable trading Watson - just not in the AFC South.

rm1369 03-14-2022 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 225912)
Why do people think Ehlinger is good at reading defenses? And what good does it do if you are crap at anticipation and accuracy. The reports coming out of college were that he was shit at anticipation throws and had accuracy issues. With an arm as weak as he has he needs to be pin point accurate and have great anticipation to be successful in the NFL. The best thing that was said about him was his toughness (he likes to lower his shoulder, not a good thing in the NFL) and leadership. I think he has the makings of an good back up but if he is our starting QB me thinks we are in big trouble.

Agreed. I have no idea what people have seen to give them any indication he’s a viable option. To me he was outplayed in preseason by Eason who was cut. I think people just want hope and since he’s young they can talk themselves into it.

rcubed 03-14-2022 06:23 PM

i see ehlinger as a "last resort, we got no one else and are playing for a top pick" type choice.

Dewey 5 03-14-2022 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 225916)
Agreed. I have no idea what people have seen to give them any indication he’s a viable option. To me he was outplayed in preseason by Eason who was cut. I think people just want hope and since he’s young they can talk themselves into it.

I don’t want & hope anything other than playing him earns us a top 2 pick in the 2023 draft. A draft conducted by a different GM.

Oldcolt 03-14-2022 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 225919)
I don’t want & hope anything other than playing him earns us a top 2 pick in the 2023 draft. A draft conducted by a different GM.

It's early. To early to throw it in on next year. Miracles happen in the NFL and it will take a minor one to get us out of this. I'm hoping that we get lucky with whomever we roll the dice with. You never know.

IndyNorm 03-14-2022 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 225835)
Well, there went my guess. We're going to be stuck watching Mariota and Ehlinger aren't we? Smh

Yep, and Trubisky said it was down to the Steelers and NYG. I wonder if Ballard even reached out to him :mad:

albany ed 03-14-2022 07:30 PM

Well, Trubisky was the one I wanted, but last year I wanted Darnold. So, let's hope I'm as wrong about Trubisky as I was about Darnold.

Dewey 5 03-14-2022 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 225928)
Yep, and Trubisky said it was down to the Steelers and NYG. I wonder if Ballard even reached out to him :mad:

Ballard is sound asleep. Doesn't even know it's free agent season.

Ironshaft 03-14-2022 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 225927)
It's early. To early to throw it in on next year. Miracles happen in the NFL and it will take a minor one to get us out of this. I'm hoping that we get lucky with whomever we roll the dice with. You never know.

Oh, no. He knows. It is just too early for him.

$70m divided between $4m a piece tier 3 or 4 free agents goes further!

Step 1: Wait out the "over priced" portion of free agency.
Step 2: Sign a bunch of scrubs and call them difference makers.
Step 3: Profit!

Brylok 03-14-2022 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 225928)
Yep, and Trubisky said it was down to the Steelers and NYG. I wonder if Ballard even reached out to him :mad:

I didn't necessarily want Trubisky, but with what was reasonably available, he was there to take a chance on. No clue what they'll do now unless it's Mariota. Maybe overpay for Jimmy G? Maybe overpay for Baker Mayfield?
Do you think Ballard is trying to get fired? Honest question. He's been doing his best to keep us afloat since Luck quit. Jim obviously won't let him go and has already extended him early. Maybe he's had enough and wants out. I'm probably overreacting again but, man.

rcubed 03-15-2022 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 225975)
I didn't necessarily want Trubisky, but with what was reasonably available, he was there to take a chance on. No clue what they'll do now unless it's Mariota. Maybe overpay for Jimmy G? Maybe overpay for Baker Mayfield?
Do you think Ballard is trying to get fired? Honest question. He's been doing his best to keep us afloat since Luck quit. Jim obviously won't let him go and has already extended him early. Maybe he's had enough and wants out. I'm probably overreacting again but, man.


Whats overpaying for JG? I read some think he could go for a 3, another speculated a 4 after pit signed trubisky. If true I would probably do that.

I dont think ballard is trying to get fired, doesn’t seem like his MO, he would tell irsay its not working and they would part ways. I do think his plan got fucked when luck retired and he is a bit too tight in FA, but at least he has a philosophy and sticks to it.

I think he let reich talk him into wentz and got burned.


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albany ed 03-15-2022 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 225945)
Ballard is sound asleep. Doesn't even know it's free agent season.

Or just maybe he's a little smarter than we wannabes on this site.

https://brobible.com/sports/article/...hell-trubisky/

CletusPyle 03-15-2022 08:20 AM

McDaniels has already screwed Derek Carr's career and Carr doesn't even know it! He could have been a Colt and a Super Bowl champion within 5 years, instead, he will waste away in Vegas, never winning that division, possibly a few one and dones in the playoffs and then his career and McPhatass's head coaching experiment will end!
-nostradumbass

Discflinger 03-15-2022 08:25 AM

Does anyone know what he signed for? Then we can start arguing.

CletusPyle 03-15-2022 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Discflinger (Post 225997)
Does anyone know what he signed for? Then we can start arguing.

You are right he hasn't signed yet, but McDaniels doesn't appear to be willing to even discuss a trade and it seems less and less likely by the day.

MeSayDayo 03-15-2022 11:55 AM

At this point, I think our only options should be (in no particular order and completely subjective to what each guy would cost) Winston, Mariota, or Jordan Love (Assuming he would cost one third round pick at most)
If Ballard is just waiting for Jimmy G to be released, then I am fine with bringing him on so long as he costs us no picks in the process.
I really hope we are taking serious looks at Zadarius Smith and Allen Robinson. Those two players come on board and I am starting to feel a LOT better about this FA period.
I think JuJu really makes sense as well. Played a year with Pittman at USC as I recall, and would likely be our slot man. He will probably give you as much as Jarvis Landry would at a lower cost.
I don't think Armstead will be an option and I do think we try to bring back both Pryor and Reed (kindof surprised we haven't yet). The reason I think we haven't is because Ballard likes his own free agents to set their market before he offers. He probably thinks that in some cases, he values his own guys higher than others and he can get away with paying his own guys that he likes more than he should. A way of keeping his own perception of his own guys in check. That could be the only reason, IMO, that we have not signed out fringe talent FA's like Turay, Lewis, Pryor or Reed. Each day drives their price down too, and Ballard knows that, and he has a LOT of them to sign.

rcubed 03-15-2022 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MeSayDayo (Post 226022)
If Ballard is just waiting for Jimmy G to be released, then I am fine with bringing him on so long as he costs us no picks in the process.

Flip side to that argument


Luke Schultheis
@LuckAtLuke
If I’m the Colts, I’d much rather trade for Jimmy G. and keep him on the last year of his current contract, 1-year, $25M as a “show me” year (essentially what Philip Rivers got in 2020) then see him cut and have to give him multiple years as a FA.

IndyNorm 03-15-2022 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 226011)
You are right he hasn't signed yet, but McDaniels doesn't appear to be willing to even discuss a trade and it seems less and less likely by the day.

I think DF may have been asking about Trubisky's deal. Looks like it's for 2 years $14.25M and can grow to $27M with incentives. Overall low risk, high reward deal for the Steelers :cool:

Kray007 03-15-2022 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 225864)
Using that formula the Colts will have their QB when, 2026, maybe 2025 ?? Just in time to start the rebuild all over again ! Ballard should target a guy that could be the guy, and go balls to the wall to try to get him ( to be honest I have no idea who that could be ), he can't just keep kicking the can down the road year after year

Problem is that that guy isn’t out there this year.

apballin 03-15-2022 10:02 PM

So the latest is…. Baker Mayfield would prefer Colts If he’s traded

rcubed 03-15-2022 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 226125)
So the latest is…. Baker Mayfield would prefer Colts If he’s traded


Fuck that.

CanuckColt 03-16-2022 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 226125)
So the latest is…. Baker Mayfield would prefer Colts If he’s traded

NO WAY. We might as well play Sam instead.

rcubed 03-17-2022 11:09 AM

I kinda think (or maybe its hope) that baker is a bit of a smoke screen from indy's POV. They probably want jimmy g but are playing as coy as possible to drive price down. I also read that now it seems we are really the only suitors for jimmy g so ballard is biding time and playing the baker angle.

Spike 03-17-2022 11:42 AM

At this point, Jimmy G is our best possible option right now, outside of Carr. Baker would be my 3rd choice reluctantly.

smitty46953 03-17-2022 11:49 AM

Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo
The #Browns have been informed they’re out of the running for Deshaun Watson, a source says. The team still views Baker Mayfield as their quarterback going forward. They told Mayfield’s agents at the Combine they’d only explore top-tier QBs such as Watson.


I imagine this will end the Mayfield to Indy speculation. :cool:

Ironshaft 03-17-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 226375)
Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo
The #Browns have been informed they’re out of the running for Deshaun Watson, a source says. The team still views Baker Mayfield as their quarterback going forward. They told Mayfield’s agents at the Combine they’d only explore top-tier QBs such as Watson.


I imagine this will end the Mayfield to Indy speculation. :cool:

Thank goodness!

Ironshaft 03-17-2022 11:58 AM

While Ballard could prove me wrong by signing a re-tread veteran or trading for Jimmy G, I am now leaning towards the notion that he sees one or two of the "top" QBs in this year's draft class as a potential starter for the Colts.

My wonder, if so, if the kid is not Matt Corral from Ole Miss. This write up from Walter Football seems to check every box Ballard and Reich look for:

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In 2021, Corral completed 68 percent of his passes for 3,349 yards, 20 touchdowns and five interceptions. He rushed for 11 touchdowns and 597 yards as well. Corral took the risk of playing in Ole Miss' bowl game and suffered a foot injury. Fortunately for Corral, X-rays were negative for a break.

Corral was an accurate passer in 2021, showing off a strong arm, developed field vision, mobility, and toughness as a runner. He did a better job of managing the game in 2021 than in previous seasons, plus showed improved decision-making and ball security. Corral has makeup concerns however, and Corral himself has said he had maturity issues early in his college career, but now is focused and putting in 12-hour days.
Not saying that he is "the guy" or is a sure fire starter. But, honestly, I would be all for using our 2nd round pick on a kid whom our staff thinks has the skills and is coachable over a veteran re-tread who has shown they are not winners.

Just food for thought.

Colts And Orioles 03-17-2022 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 225945)



Ballard is sound asleep. Doesn't even know it's free agent season.





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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 225993)



Or just maybe he's a little smarter than we wannabes on this site.


https://brobible.com/sports/article/...hell-trubisky/




o


"Do something !!! Do something !!! Do something !!!"

(The GM does something.)

"What did you do that for ??? Panic move !!!"

o

JAFF 03-17-2022 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 226377)
While Ballard could prove me wrong by signing a re-tread veteran or trading for Jimmy G, I am now leaning towards the notion that he sees one or two of the "top" QBs in this year's draft class as a potential starter for the Colts.

My wonder, if so, if the kid is not Matt Corral from Ole Miss. This write up from Walter Football seems to check every box Ballard and Reich look for:


Not saying that he is "the guy" or is a sure fire starter. But, honestly, I would be all for using our 2nd round pick on a kid whom our staff thinks has the skills and is coachable over a veteran re-tread who has shown they are not winners.

Just food for thought.

If they really want the kid from old Miss, they will need to trade up into the first round to get him. There are other teams needing a QB and they wont be shy about moving up in the draft

Oldcolt 03-18-2022 01:18 PM

Las Vegas is in the process of extending Carr. He is off the table for the Colts.

CletusPyle 03-18-2022 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 226521)
Las Vegas is in the process of extending Carr. He is off the table for the Colts.

It's a shame, because I like Carr, but I hate McPhatass, so I will be forced to direct all my negative energy toward Vegas!:eek:

Brylok 03-18-2022 04:28 PM

Watson is going to Cleveland.

nate505 03-18-2022 05:00 PM

So the options are dwindling some. Either a trade for Mayfield or Jimmy G, or signing Mariotta or Winston, or just rolling with Ehlinger.

I think they'll get the Mayfield trade done, but it's not a very confident prediction.

Lov2fish 03-18-2022 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 226560)
So the options are dwindling some. Either a trade for Mayfield or Jimmy G, or signing Mariotta or Winston, or just rolling with Ehlinger.

I think they'll get the Mayfield trade done, but it's not a very confident prediction.

Might toss Matty Ice in the conversation. He delayed his roster bonus until Monday for the Falcons. They didn't get the criminal, so not sure Ryan would want to stay after that. I wouldn't, but I would for what he is making :)


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