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omahacolt 09-17-2018 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 80422)
So, coaching matters, because Pags would not have pulled off this win.

Of course. Coaching matter a lot. Anyone that has ever played a sport would tell you that.

nate505 09-17-2018 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 80258)
So Nyheim Hines's TD run was the result of the playcall? Eric Ebron's TD catch was all about the playcall? TY Hilton's big gain at the end of the first quarter was the playcall?

Hilton's last TD catch was about 90% the play call.

Just about everyone realizes that play calls aren't the end all and be all of football. There has to be a level of talent and athleticism a professional football player possesses or it doesn't matter what the play caller is.

The thing pretty much everyone else knows that in professional sports, the level of athleticism tends to be more minor from the worst to the best players. Unlike college where the difference between a San Jose State and an Ohio State is vast. So when the level of athleticism is minor, things like play calling become more critical.

Though hell, the difference in play calling between Pagano and his staff and Reich is damn near a San Jose State/Ohio State gulf.

Thorgrim 09-17-2018 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 80424)
Of course. Coaching matter a lot. Anyone that has ever played a sport would tell you that.

And there it is. It shouldn’t require experience in playing organized sports to recognize this obvious fact but for some it is necessary.

rm1369 09-17-2018 09:33 PM

There are many aspects of good coaching, but two simple ones Dam doesn’t seem to want to acknowledge are:

1) putting players in a position to maximize their strengths and minimize their weaknesses

2) scheming to create match ups that are to their advantage.

Obviously it’s correct that the players are the ones making the plays. It’s their talents that ultimately get the job done. They simply succeed more often when the coaches do these two things. That just seems like common sense.

YDFL Commish 09-17-2018 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 80240)
I'm a big Corey Simon fan and remember him far more fondly as the guy who occupied the entire OL and allowed every other DL to make plays in 2005 vs the fat tub of lard everyone else seems to remember him as.

But even Simon wasn't in the backfield; he was occupying blockers. More of a Vince Wilfork type. Hunt is just moving blockers, quickly and violently as hell, into the backfield.

I think the same could be said of Al Woods.

Puck 09-17-2018 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 80442)
You can create a mismatch to get a player open only to have him drop the ball. You can also triple cover a receiver only to have them still get open to make a play. Outcomes. Are. Entirely. Player. Dependent.

Dude stop. Just stop. You are sounding dumber by the second. I am starting to feel a little embarrassed for you. And that is a creeepy feeling.

Stop making me feel creepy!

Butter 09-17-2018 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 80442)
You can create a mismatch to get a player open only to have him drop the ball. You can also triple cover a receiver only to have them still get open to make a play. Outcomes. Are. Entirely. Player. Dependent.

What? No! Sigh! It is clearly not so even by your own metric. They are interdependent, not binary. You are just a troll now.

Puck 09-17-2018 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 80442)
You can create a mismatch to get a player open only to have him drop the ball. You can also triple cover a receiver only to have them still get open to make a play. Outcomes. Are. Entirely. Player. Dependent.

So what your saying is ....if you call the dumbest play in the history of the NFL using a guy who never practiced the play might actually snap the ball ????

Yea that’s totally not a coaching error.

YDFL Commish 09-17-2018 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 80369)
On aggregate, the outcomes of each play determine the outcome of the game.

You've got to be fucking kidding me! You have found the holy grail that others have been seeking since footballs inception!

You sir are more brilliant than all who have come before you! I believe there is a place for you in Canton!

Dam8610 09-18-2018 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 80459)
You've got to be fucking kidding me! You have found the holy grail that others have been seeking since footballs inception!

You sir are more brilliant than all who have come before you! I believe there is a place for you in Canton!

I tried to make it as simple as possible. You can argue the premises I suppose, though I don't see how.


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