If the players execute, the team wins. What's the problem?

It's not worth arguing point-by-point with Dam, honestly. You have to keep the questions simple.

Dam -- do you ever wonder why no one else on this board, in the media, and in current and former coaching circles defends your dad? Why it's only you who thinks he's a competent coach?

You're still coming from the perspective that I'm defending Pagano, which I'm not. I don't like your lazy zero player accountability model. Any issue in your mind falls directly back to coaching, which doesn't make sense because the coaches have the absolute least control over what happens on the field. Players have to execute when called upon.

It's not just this board, check out any Colts message board and they all feel like we do. Pagano is NOT a good NFL head coach, hell he isn't even a mediocre NFL head coach. The national sports media knows he isn't worth a shit and is wasting a once in a generation QB. Cowherd made a comment yesterday that I totally agree with, he said Pagano is even screwing up Brissett. The longer Luck and Brissett are with Pagano the worse it is for them. Brissett is seen as a starter in the NFL,not a backup, but Pagano will ruin him. Cowherd also predicts that the Colts are going to clean house, and I agree this will happen, so have faith Colt fans. What is Pagano's excuse now, he threw all of his assistant coaches under the bus last year, yet nothing has changed. Pagano is ruining this franchise and should have been gone when they got rid of Griggs. Dam, stop making excuses for this piece of shit coach, it only makes you look stupid.

Maybe its not a look!!

I agree, Pags didnt cause Moncrief to miss the wide open TD, he didn't cause Doyle's fumble, he didnt miss an extra point.

He has failed to instill a culture of accountability. He's failed to instill a culture that respects and nurtures veteran leadership. He's failed to adequately prepare his team for games, he's failed to adequately manage games, he's failed to accurately weigh risk (the bullshit trick plays). He's failed to take individual talent and mold it into a cohesive unit. He's failed to recognize and nurture talent.

Those are Pagano's jobs, and he is not successful. How can a coach instill a culture of accountability when he is not willing or not able to do his own job?

So no, Pagano didnt cause the ball to slide through Donte's hands. He did create a culture where Donte is not accountable for it, no one will step up and rip Donte's ass for it because there are no such leaders on this team.

Intangibles matter. These are the things that let a team like the Patriots turn UDFAs into superstars.

if you read gbb and his thoughts on the game, he holds the players accountable plenty


you, on the other hand, only hold the gm and players accountable.

Wilson. However, we will never know how he would have doe because he never got the chance.

That is complete bullshit, there has been much criticism of the players by GBB and many others.

AND HES NOT A GOOD DB COACH!!!!

I wish people would stop saying he is.

He has nothing that he has done here to prove he's a good coach. NOTHING!!