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ChoppedWood 01-05-2025 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 317668)
You think having more talented football players is not a winning strategy? I'm fairly certain 32 NFL GMs would disagree with your stance here.

Are you capable of looking at a site such as ESPN and querying won-lost records? Can you look up the Colts record please? Can you google it over the last 8 years and can you report back on how this more talented football player model you speak of, where a guy like JT is viewed as a must have on the roster, has achieved A MOTHERFUCKING THING?

Damn, man, JT is a good runner of the football, he is NOT a good football player! We can't continue to perpetuate this same fucking approach where a guy that isn't good enough, is thought of as some form of "better than "X" type and as such is regarded as a keeper because he is what we are comfortable with. We HAVE to get draft picks and we have to get rid of guys that aren't critical to the team going forward. JT is not a cornerstone part of this team- accept that! Well he is, and that is an indicator that this team is BAD. Other teams would give us draft picks for him- take those and live with a decent bridge running back for a couple years while we transition the whole fucking team.

Indystu2 01-05-2025 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 317685)
Are you capable of looking at a site such as ESPN and querying won-lost records? Can you look up the Colts record please? Can you google it over the last 8 years and can you report back on how this more talented football player model you speak of, where a guy like JT is viewed as a must have on the roster, has achieved A MOTHERFUCKING THING?

Damn, man, JT is a good runner of the football, he is NOT a good football player! We can't continue to perpetuate this same fucking approach where a guy that isn't good enough, is thought of as some form of "better than "X" type and as such is regarded as a keeper because he is what we are comfortable with. We HAVE to get draft picks and we have to get rid of guys that aren't critical to the team going forward. JT is not a cornerstone part of this team- accept that! Well he is, and that is an indicator that this team is BAD. Other teams would give us draft picks for him- take those and live with a decent bridge running back for a couple years while we transition the whole fucking team.

I prefer to keep JT on the roster while they bring in/draft his replacement...with the new GM and HC next year.

Dam8610 01-05-2025 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 317685)
Are you capable of looking at a site such as ESPN and querying won-lost records? Can you look up the Colts record please? Can you google it over the last 8 years and can you report back on how this more talented football player model you speak of, where a guy like JT is viewed as a must have on the roster, has achieved A MOTHERFUCKING THING?

Damn, man, JT is a good runner of the football, he is NOT a good football player! We can't continue to perpetuate this same fucking approach where a guy that isn't good enough, is thought of as some form of "better than "X" type and as such is regarded as a keeper because he is what we are comfortable with. We HAVE to get draft picks and we have to get rid of guys that aren't critical to the team going forward. JT is not a cornerstone part of this team- accept that! Well he is, and that is an indicator that this team is BAD. Other teams would give us draft picks for him- take those and live with a decent bridge running back for a couple years while we transition the whole fucking team.

Judging Ballard on his record is almost as stupid as wanting Najee Harris over Jonathan Taylor.

ChoppedWood 01-05-2025 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 317776)
Judging Ballard on his record is almost as stupid as wanting Najee Harris over Jonathan Taylor.

Yeah because there are a LOT of other measures to gauge him by. So, then he should just be GM for life right, I mean if you aren't going to use the W/L record of the team he runs as the measure of his success / failure?

As usual you live an a world that makes zero fucking sense unless it is twisted to support some fucked up weird ass view you have.

Indystu2 01-05-2025 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 317852)
Yeah because there are a LOT of other measures to gauge him by. So, then he should just be GM for life right, I mean if you aren't going to use the W/L record of the team he runs as the measure of his success / failure?

As usual you live an a world that makes zero fucking sense unless it is twisted to support some fucked up weird as view you have.

Wow

rm1369 01-05-2025 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 317616)
Ballard had Luck for 2 seasons, spent 4 seasons trying to find a solution at QB, then there's been 2 seasons of AR so far. If you give up on Ballard, you're probably giving up on AR as well. A new front office certainly wouldn't be tied to him. I think giving AR one more year is the best option, because I feel like he's either going to develop into the franchise QB that the front office envisioned or he'll do poorly enough to get the team a top 5 pick so that when they move on, the new front office will be in good position to get their franchise QB. To me, that also means giving Ballard 1 more year, because he is tied to AR, which makes him motivated to put the best team around him to allow him to succeed, moreso than a new regime would be.

Tired ass argument. Basically stating he’s not been good because he doesn’t have an elite QB. Fuck, most GMs would appear competent if they had an elite QB. WTF about the rest of the team? Fuck QB, you guys always give him that out. WTF about the shit D? WTF about the culture that obviously isn’t about winning?

He’s going to be motivated to support AR?! Why the fuck now? Why not last year? Why not this year? Ballard is exactly this. “Next year” You know how many years we’ve been saying that with him? Every fucking one. And that goes for when he had Luck and thought the smart thing to do was slow roll a rebuild WITH an elite QB. Now you think he’s all of a sudden going to change? I want him gone BECAUSE I want AR to have a chance to succeed. We know what Ballard builds. I’ve watched every game of his shit product.

omahacolt 01-05-2025 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 317611)
Fair enough. Was just looking at RB's that:
- Can actually perform in all three phases
- Are available
- Aren't pussies
- Aren't known to be incompetent players that are a lock to make numerous stupid plays throughout the year
- Aren't gonna be real expensive
- Will be a player that 1-2 years from now can easily say "thanks for your services, our 2nd / 3rd round pick will now take the starting spot, good luck in the future, or you can stay here as a back up for $150 gift card going forward".

There are probably 10+ that meet these criteria and would be perfectly suited to replace a player that is WAY fucking over paid for what he really is.

najee Harris is terrible

even suggesting him makes me question every post you makie

rm1369 01-05-2025 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 317776)
Judging Ballard on his record is almost as stupid as wanting Najee Harris over Jonathan Taylor.

What do you judge him by? The stellar D he’s built? The culture in the locker room? His stellar selection of coaches? Let me guess - cap space saved / rolled over! I can see why as a Ballard supporter performance is a criteria you’d avoid. But I’m very curious what it is you think he does so well. Draft OL? That’s about the best thing I can think of. Sure AF isn’t drafting DE or CB. Sure as fuck isn’t evaluating QBs.

ChaosTheory 01-05-2025 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 317776)
Judging Ballard on his record is almost as stupid as wanting Najee Harris over Jonathan Taylor.

Well, also leads him to claim Grigson was better.

Just drowning in nuance with that kind of analysis.

IndyNorm 01-05-2025 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 317878)
Well, also leads him to claim Grigson was better.

Just drowning in nuance with that kind of analysis.

Yes, Ballard is better than Grigson. Anyone with half a brain knows that. But the fact that we're not any better (and probably worse) than we were in 2019 after Luck bailed on the team goes to show that Ballard is nowhere near as good as his supporters think he is.


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