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CletusPyle 10-29-2024 09:22 PM

The Colts are going to get toasted by the media, they have to realize how bad this looks. Why not just talk nicely to AR and say, we don't think you are quite ready and we want to go with Joe for a few games and see how it goes, but you are still our guy. Even if that is not exactly the truth it is better than totally blowing up your relationship with the guy.

Unless they do some damage control and quick, I agree with Chopped, how do you go back to him this season? And what is his future? Finally why didn't they make this move at halftime in Houston, that was a winnable game! Something had to have happened, there had to have been an altercation of some type for us to get to this!

Lov2fish 10-29-2024 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 309898)
Nate Adkins was on JMV and pointed out that AR has a better passer rating and fewer turnovers through his first 10 starts than Josh Allen did.

This idea that AR will never amount to anything is stupid. Give the kid a chance.

That’s one of the reasons I hate this move.

When Allen was in college he was good. AR was not. Everyone saw what Allen had the potential to be, but with AR you saw what he was. Tape proves he is what he was in college, horribly inconsistent and couldn't hit a wide open receiver, even with no pass rush. He is just not good. Folks can be an apologist for him all they want, it won't change he is not a good QB.

apballin 10-29-2024 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 309908)
The Colts are going to get toasted by the media, they have to realize how bad this looks. Why not just talk nicely to AR and say, we don't think you are quite ready and we want to go with Joe for a few games and see how it goes, but you are still our guy. Even if that is not exactly the truth it is better than totally blowing up your relationship with the guy.

Unless they do some damage control and quick, I agree with Chopped, how do you go back to him this season? And what is his future? Finally why didn't they make this move at halftime in Houston, that was a winnable game! Something had to have happened, there had to have been an altercation of some type for us to get to this!

He should be improving with each start… he’s getting worse

Rex Ryan said the gm was forcing the coach to play AR… I’m guessing Irsay watched the division go up in flames with his stupid qb play… no excuses.. JT was back… Buck was back

Only way he can get the ball to a WR is on a schemed up route where downs is wide open

3 and outs constantly, his strength is supposed to be his legs yet he gets hurt every time he’s touched

Irsay was pissed and overruled Ballards bullshit because this season is salvageable and not fair to the vets on the team that have been here thru all the bullshit to ride out another shitty season with an immature QB that’s clearly not ready to be a leader

YDFL Commish 10-29-2024 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 309908)
The Colts are going to get toasted by the media, they have to realize how bad this looks. Why not just talk nicely to AR and say, we don't think you are quite ready and we want to go with Joe for a few games and see how it goes, but you are still our guy. Even if that is not exactly the truth it is better than totally blowing up your relationship with the guy.

Unless they do some damage control and quick, I agree with Chopped, how do you go back to him this season? And what is his future? Finally why didn't they make this move at halftime in Houston, that was a winnable game! Something had to have happened, there had to have been an altercation of some type for us to get to this!

If you're the coach and the decision is lose the locker room or lose 1 player, then the decision is easy.

ChoppedWood 10-29-2024 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 309912)
If you're the coach and the decision is lose the locker room or lose 1 player, then the decision is easy.

If you are the owner and the decision is lose the fan base, or keep a shitty fucking GM who is the head of a team that is seemingly perpetually in a state of chaos, the decision is easy.

FIRE CHRIS BALLARD!

CletusPyle 10-29-2024 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 309911)
He should be improving with each start… he’s getting worse

Rex Ryan said the gm was forcing the coach to play AR… I’m guessing Irsay watched the division go up in flames with his stupid qb play… no excuses.. JT was back… Buck was back

Only way he can get the ball to a WR is on a schemed up route where downs is wide open

3 and outs constantly, his strength is supposed to be his legs yet he gets hurt every time he’s touched

Irsay was pissed and overruled Ballards bullshit because this season is salvageable and not fair to the vets on the team that have been here thru all the bullshit to ride out another shitty season with an immature QB that’s clearly not ready to be a leader

This makes sense, maybe Steichen wanted to bench him in the second half and Ballard stopped him? Otherwise, doing this now when you could have done it last week and won the biggest game of the season, seems a little late to me. I agree he should be benched, I would have done it at halftime, but I still think it could have been done better without losing AR completely!

CletusPyle 10-29-2024 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 309912)
If you're the coach and the decision is lose the locker room or lose 1 player, then the decision is easy.

I get that, I still think we will find out that something happened between AR and Steichen or AR and some of the other players? Otherwise, you have completely blown up your relationship with Anthony Richardson and you are going to need a new QB, because Flacco will be on Social Security soon!

Butter 10-29-2024 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 309880)
The problem is AR is not accurate at all on short passes. So going w/ deep throws is actually playing to AR's strengths.

There in lies the huge problem. He doesn't do the thing that good QBS do at all, just the outliers, and even if he does those great, like running and deep passes, that does not make for success. I am not sure benching him now helps, they should have at half of the Texans game honestly, then brought him back the next week IMHO..

YDFL Commish 10-29-2024 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 309913)
If you are the owner and the decision is lose the fan base, or keep a shitty fucking GM who is the head of a team that is seemingly perpetually in a state of chaos, the decision is easy.

FIRE CHRIS BALLARD!

I'm, not opposed to what you're saying. But aren't Irsay's hands dirty as well. Has Irsay really made a good decision for this franchise in the last 15 years?

i always feel like Irsay has become too much like his dad, and just no longer can think clearly.

ChoppedWood 10-29-2024 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 309917)
I'm, not opposed to what you're saying. But aren't Irsay's hands dirty as well. Has Irsay really made a good decision for this franchise in the last 15 years?

i always feel like Irsay has become too much like his dad, and just no longer can think clearly.

Yeah, no question about this. Unfortunately I basically write the Irsay culpability off- simply because there's no one above him to force change and thus I start at Ballard.

So not excluding him from blame, just accepting that short of the girls basically taking the keys away, he can't be stopped from driving.

Also don't think he is thinking clearly, if he was I really don't think Ballard would have been the GM when the season started.


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