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Dam8610 03-21-2023 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 262175)
The thing with Lamar, whether it is a trade or offer on his tag is the financial ramification's that come with the fully guaranteed contract. Jackson depending on rumors is wanting north of the fully guaranteed $230,000,000 contract signed by Deshaun Watson with the Browns. I believe the owners are trying to steer clear of these contracts, while the NFLPA are advocating for them.

I believe the owners if I understand it correctly are required to follow the NFL's funding rule which stipulates that every fully guaranteed dollar owed to a player, but not yet paid to him, must be placed in a league-run escrow account. In other words, even if a player is owed guaranteed money over the course of three, four, or five years, ownership still must place all of that money into a separate bank account.

Some owners, their family members and or shareholders/partners, rely on income from the team for their livelihoods. Others, such as the Browns, who are owned by truck stop mogul Jimmy Haslam, who’s worth an estimated $5.5 billion, can afford to squirrel away $230 million more easily than some other organizations.

Regardless of whether or not a team, such as the Colts and Jim Irsay can afford it. I believe the consensus of the owners is to avoid such contracts.

Personally, I would rather go with a rookie QB pay scale and cap implications rather than one player eventually with a $50,000,000 cap hit hindering signing of others around him.

Just my $0.02 worth :cool:

The problem is either one is more or less a roulette wheel spin. With Lamar, you know you have an NFL caliber franchise QB, the risk is in the health. With drafting a rookie at #4 overall, unless it's somehow Stroud or Young, the bust potential is significant. The best move would be to figure out what the Panthers want for #1 and move up there, but I doubt Ballard is going to do that.

Discflinger 03-21-2023 06:47 AM

Trade back

Oldcolt 03-21-2023 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262180)
The problem is either one is more or less a roulette wheel spin. With Lamar, you know you have an NFL caliber franchise QB, the risk is in the health. With drafting a rookie at #4 overall, unless it's somehow Stroud or Young, the bust potential is significant. The best move would be to figure out what the Panthers want for #1 and move up there, but I doubt Ballard is going to do that.

Still a spin of the roulette wheel, just a hell of a lot more expensive spin if you move to one.

Dam8610 03-21-2023 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 262226)
Still a spin of the roulette wheel, just a hell of a lot more expensive spin if you move to one.

I don't know of a roulette wheel that gives you better than 50/50 favorable odds.

apballin 03-21-2023 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 262226)
Still a spin of the roulette wheel, just a hell of a lot more expensive spin if you move to one.

I don’t see how this is any different than Buckner vs Kinlaw situation

Butter 03-21-2023 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 262240)
I don’t see how this is any different than Buckner vs Kinlaw situation

Other than the fact we are talking an order of magnitude more draft capital? yes, exactly the same.:rolleyes:

Oldcolt 03-21-2023 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262235)
I don't know of a roulette wheel that gives you better than 50/50 favorable odds.

They do if I'm allowed to quote made up odds like you

Dam8610 03-21-2023 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 262261)
They do if I'm allowed to quote made up odds like you

There's a reason Stroud and Young are nearly universally seen as the top 2 picks in the draft, and Levis and Richardson are seen as high risk. I certainly can't control what the draft media posts.

Dewey 5 03-22-2023 11:37 AM

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apballin 03-24-2023 02:11 PM

Is it strange the Colts didn’t talk to Levis at combine and only sent a couple scouts to his pro day? Seems like there would be more interest if he was the guy


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