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Ironshaft 02-16-2023 11:07 AM

Honestly, I am more interested in trading to #3 than #1.

#3 "guarantees" one of your top 2 QB choices assuming CHI does not pick QB.

I agree that pick #5 or below is not attractive to CHI as their chance to get one of the two prime defenders lowers greatly. I also think #4 is the lowest they would want to go no matter how big the haul of compensation.

We will see, but who knows? Colts management might see AR-15 as the guy so....no movement needed with even a possible trade down a spot or three to still get him.

YDFL Commish 02-16-2023 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 260151)
As we sit, I have a hard time imagining there won't be movement. We have SEA, DET, and LV immediately behind us in the draft and Carolina is only at #9.

Colts can hold at 4 and take last man standing between Young, Stroud, and Levis if they legitimately don't care who they get. But if they do like a guy, whoever it is, they risk getting leapfrogged and missing him.

I don't expect Seattle and Detroit to be in the market for a QB, they seem to have settled on Geno and Goff.

I'm of the feeling that Reich is going to try to convince Carolina management that he can win with either Darnold or Carr and that they don't need to move up for a QB.

We all know how that will work out.

ChaosTheory 02-16-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 260160)
I don't expect Seattle and Detroit to be in the market for a QB, they seem to have settled on Geno and Goff.

I'm of the feeling that Reich is going to try to convince Carolina management that he can win with either Darnold or Carr and that they don't need to move up for a QB.

We all know how that will work out.

I agree about DET. For the longest time, I took for granted that Goff was a placeholder guy. Then I look up and the Lions offense is top-5 and Goff has had a good year at only 28 years old. I keep instinctively including DET but I don't really see them in play.

You might be right about SEA, but they're still an iffy one for me. Geno Smith also had a good year. But he's also a little older (33 next season) and in the six seasons prior to 2022, he's only had 15 total games and 5 starts. Of course he's also free agent, so we'll have a better idea when we see what kind of contract they offer him.

Dam8610 02-16-2023 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 260158)
Honestly, I am more interested in trading to #3 than #1.

#3 "guarantees" one of your top 2 QB choices assuming CHI does not pick QB.

I agree that pick #5 or below is not attractive to CHI as their chance to get one of the two prime defenders lowers greatly. I also think #4 is the lowest they would want to go no matter how big the haul of compensation.

We will see, but who knows? Colts management might see AR-15 as the guy so....no movement needed with even a possible trade down a spot or three to still get him.

If Bryce Young was 6'0" 210, I'd be right there with you on this strategy. I'll wait for the combine to see, but I'll be shocked if Young measures taller than 5100. My guess is he'll come in at 5096, and if that happens, Stroud's value and intrinsically the value of the #1 pick, will skyrocket. Fortunately, the Colts still have the aforementioned leverage of being the last pick where Anderson or Carter is a virtual lock. A trade like Matt Miller suggested would be fine.

I really hope Colts brass doesn't think Richardson is the answer to anything but the question "How could the Ravens get out of paying Lamar Jackson while maintaining their current offensive system?" If they believe he is the answer to the Colts QB void, I suspect the current regime will learn the meaning of Not For Long.

Hoopsdoc 02-17-2023 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 260158)
Honestly, I am more interested in trading to #3 than #1.

#3 "guarantees" one of your top 2 QB choices assuming CHI does not pick QB.

I agree that pick #5 or below is not attractive to CHI as their chance to get one of the two prime defenders lowers greatly. I also think #4 is the lowest they would want to go no matter how big the haul of compensation.

We will see, but who knows? Colts management might see AR-15 as the guy so....no movement needed with even a possible trade down a spot or three to still get him.

I’m not convinced Chicago won’t take a quarterback. I mean, they watched Fields play, right?

CletusPyle 02-17-2023 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 260185)
I’m not convinced Chicago won’t take a quarterback. I mean, they watched Fields play, right?

Cardinals might too…Kyler Murray isn’t taking them anywhere!

Discflinger 02-18-2023 12:46 AM

Bringing in Deandre Smith the G spots’ rb coach.

Dewey 5 02-18-2023 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 260200)
Cardinals might too…Kyler Murray isn’t taking them anywhere!

They are stuck with him after that contract they gave him.

Dam8610 02-19-2023 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 260185)
I’m not convinced Chicago won’t take a quarterback. I mean, they watched Fields play, right?

This is exactly what they want you to think to drive up the price of the pick. They think Fields is the guy for now. Whether that's right or wrong is TBD (I think it's right), but either way they're not trading Fields because they wouldn't get good value. They'll get much better value trading the #1 pick.

Hoopsdoc 02-19-2023 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 260215)
This is exactly what they want you to think to drive up the price of the pick. They think Fields is the guy for now. Whether that's right or wrong is TBD (I think it's right), but either way they're not trading Fields because they wouldn't get good value. They'll get much better value trading the #1 pick.

Fields sucks. It’s just a matter of whether they’ll admit it yet or not.

He’s a poor man’s Lamar Jackson.


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