I think I could hear you at the very end of this video.
https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...nt/2112132001/

Four very special QBs, two of them never reached their potential due to injuries.

Oh well, next man up. And I had such high expectations for this season.

Indeed. It's bloody raw right now.

It's gonna get more raw if Darnold goes on the have a HOF career.

Hes taken a beating playing football I cant imagine what it takes just to play one year, let alone 9 years.

Fans booed, they paid for that right when they put down a couple grand for a pair of season tickets.

A lot of hatred for someone who did some much good for the Colts, I understand the timing is not good at all, and that's where a lot of the anger is coming from, but respect the man's decision, he is hurting because he poured everything he had into playing QB for the Colts.

If you want to be pissed and hateful direct it towards Grigson.

I'm actually not all that surprised that he retired already, and I believe the Colts will be fine without him.

Excellent post. Who is to say when anyone wants/should retire. Andrew Luck is bright, has millions and has a lot of options in life. I say thanks for the memories and good luck with future endeavors.

I guess Irsay was right about that 6 inches of space between Luck's ears. He's just wired differently than most pro athletes.

Remembered, like when the Irsays screwed the city of Baltimore !!

This is where I am. I get the posters who were drunk last night and posted what they did. However, given the myriad of former players who can barely walk and talk, let alone eat with a fork, I won't be that harsh. I am angry that he didn't give it one last go with this roster, but in the end, there is nothing that I could do beyond vent online, so I move on and root for the guys who wear the Shoe this year.

To be fair, he went on for a while about the children, just not much about the ones who paid his salary.

Who would have thought RGIII would last in the league longer than Luck?

Wow. Seriously?

People vent.

No one is begrudging him anything.

I hope the dude finds happiness away from football and lives to be 100 years old.

But this really really sucks for the Colts and the fans.

Can't speak for others but I can for the record state I wasn't drunk in my rage last night and it hasn't eased any this morning.

I am really struggling to process all the pieces here and I can't move off the point that this guy just reamed us in a huge way.

So he has a strain that is of near zero concern in mini-camps and HE makes it clear HE is going to be ready for camp. Standard Luck giggly "I will be ready for camp" nerdness...

Okay, so draft is out the window, and realistically had he told them at the end of last year he was hanging them up- who knows, but realistically with a Ballard type I don't see him giving up a ton of the future to try to move up in a draft class where the "biggest" guy is a Michael Vick wannabe and a Daniel Jones is a guy people covet, while Haskins could take 3-5 years to shape into a long term answer... If we had known before hand, yeah we could probably make that move for Foles, so there's that taken off the table if he KNEW this that far back...and I think he did, but that's just my opinion.

So let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say that his real decision came between mini and training camp. Here's where I just don't buy this guys BS that this is an injury thing and the ankle is the final straw.

Camp starts, he takes a few days off at the beginning due to this lingering pain, steps on the field and looks like he's primed to go. Then he has to step back due to pain. Then they come out with the BS the last couple weeks that he can't practice due to lingering pain...BUUUUUT no one, not anyone with any access says shit about him wearing a boot. He's not present, then last weekend he's in warm ups he's running around laughing while going through exercises... NO BOOT. Yesterday, he didn't go through warm ups but several times I watched him come up to work with a QB and demonstrate a plant and drop back- no wincing, NO BOOT, stands the entire game, laughing, doing standard Luck shit...

Now in his press conference he's talking all this shit about how he's still in pain, it's a myriad of issues, strain, impingement, etc... and talks about how one of his first orders of business is to do what's necessary to stop this pain in his ankle.

I'm no doctor but if you are having that much of a problem, do you jump around and laugh with guys while doing it, or do you ask a doctor to immobilize the thing and get you on some crutches so you don't have pain- regardless of whether or not you get paid to play football for a living?

To me, it just doesn't add up. My read is he's known for quite some time he was not going to do this anymore but until last weekend he didn't have the balls to just come out and tell them it was over so he strung them, and us, along. Ballard made some mention of tough conversations they have all had recently and I think he specifically mentioned last Monday as sort of a trigger point.

I think it might have been those guys telling him they were tired of the hem hawing and they were moving on and now the ankle thing is just a soft landing spot for everyone to go their own ways and save as much face as possible instead of the org saying "yeah, Andy sort of threw all these guys that wear this horseshoe under the bus, thanks for F'ing us Andy".

If so, then screw him for not letting them have the option of trying to upgrade the position, and I'm not saying they would have chosen to do so because I really think Ballard is a JB fan and is willing to roll with him, but if so, he trapped them in a corner by waiting this long to finally do what he should have done a long time ago- probably around the SB I would imagine.

So on that basis, no, I do not hold a grudge for him retiring, hell yes I would be inclined to retire if I had $91M in salary and probably another $150M in endorsements sitting in my account. But to do it this way, 2 weeks before a season and IMO blame it on what IMO is made up- to me, that's the mark of a real coward that doesn't deserve my respect.

I guess this is good news for Walker and Kelly. One of them was facing being cut, but now they both should be safe.

Walker just doesn't have the size for it. He can make that "wow" play once every few series but in between, he's going to hurt you.

Kelly is for real. He throws an outstanding ball and you can see his command of the huddle. I am obviously pulling for Jacoby to just kill it when the bullets fly but after 2 games if he doesn't look the part, I absolutely want to see Kelly running this squad and see what he can do with all this talent around him.

Race, I listened to all of what is available online and he mentioned Riley Hospital (bless them and the kids there) but he made not one mention about the Colts fans (other than hearing the booing and being "hurt"). That dude is a coward and left us high and dry.

I have that same basic thoughts. I am unhappy we lost our all star qb right before we were poised to go on some sb runs. However I get why he left. He has money, opportunity, family, and still has his health mostly in tact. He is smart and has different priorities, I will not fault him for that. Also, fans get way to emotional about sports. I love the colts but never let it ruin my day when they lose.

That being said, this sucks!

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Kevin Bowen was just on with Jersey Johnny, great take on things.

Said absolute shock to the system hearing this yesterday. But also said that if there were two guys in the NFL that have the right mindset to handle this and not have panic, it's Ballard and Reich.

Said that Ballard was not bullshitting when he said in his 1st presser that this was not about one guy and that he has maintained that position throughout and that Reich absolutely took it to heart. Said Reich more or less meets with the medical folks, gets a report on who is available and that's where he dedicates his time and doesn't care about the name, just about what they need to do to win ball games. Brought up a great point about how Frank Reich is possibly the ideal candidate to help a career backup understand what it takes to become the leader of a team and carry that responsibility.

You can only read so much into what is said but obviously Bowen has a decent insight into the club, and it sure as hell sounds like there's been a lot of contingency planning by the front office for this possibility at any moment- and last night that moment arrived. Bowen did not sugar coat it, he said Luck left the Colts in a terrible position, that he did no one any favors by doing this this way, but he expects the three guys at the top to really do a good job of handling this situation and that they do have a lot of faith in JB. Forgot to add, and I guess I didn't realize it, this is a contract year for Jacoby, how crazy is that set up... could go from a nice comfortable living to the highest contract in the NFL in a matter of months- just has to get out there and show everyone why the staff is so high on him.

I could almost see this shit coming. Posted this on 8/13. I don't begrudge the guy for retiring but not 2 weeks before the season. That's bullshit. Fuck him and fuck his father too. I'll never watch that XFL pussy league now.

You’re admitting there’s guesswork driving your reaction. What if your guesses are wrong?

Then I am wrong, won't be the first time. I also have seen whispers that he is being coy and playing this card but the reality is he has cancer and wants to lay low while fighting, and if so, well damn I will feel like shit for saying these things.

However, right now, based on what info does exist, including the bombshell from Schefty that they reached a settlement with him last week, well the little nuggets we do have, they don't paint a rosey picture of Andy the ultimate warrior going out there and fighting for his guys... the things we do know sure do make him look like a very very very smart guy that played this system to the absolute most beneficial point possible.

What bombshell? “Late last week” could easily mean a couple days ago.

Yes he did.....

Yep. Story came out today. This is a new week . So Thursday or Friday of last week would make sense.

He first brought up retirement on Monday with Irsay, Ballard, and Reich. He’d been considering it for at least a couple of weeks.

This was in reference to when they reached the financial settlement.

So we are to believe one of the most high profile players in the league, on a team that the NFL is putting out there as a real live wire, we are to believe that on a Monday the guy starts talking to the brass about retiring and by the end of that week they've ironed out his retirement package?

Color me a skeptic of that timeline...

Yes. It isn’t hard to believe. Ballard has signed free agents to deals in shorter periods of time.

Also, the Colts didn’t pay anything new. The money was given to Luck three years ago. It’s an easy call to let him keep it or not. It isn’t like Irsay cut him a huge check as a going away present on Friday.

To boo a man who literally pissed blood for this team is just sickening.

With the shoulder injury---The guy went 585 days without playing football and most of those days he spent rehabbing and seeking alternative treatments to fix his shoulder just so he can come back and throw a fucking football.

He was taking numbing agents for the rest of the season when he hurt his shoulder while tough guys kicked their legs up on the recliner watching him get his shit kicked in aided in part by Grigson's oline.

Watching the disappointment on his face while he left the field was disheartening. I swear football has some the most bone headed fans out of any sport.

It’s called a knee jerk reaction. I’m sure you have had one before and did something classless and then realized you were wrong. I was pissed but now I’m more understanding. I am still not happy it happened but understand. I hate the timing of the decision more than anything but I don’t know all the underlying circumstances either.

I wish Luck well and hope we win multiple SB’s and wish it could have been with him.

Hey man its called being human. Id be a hypocrite to dog you for it.

Thats what a lot of fans at the Luke forgot.... the man is also human.

This was a pretty funny read.

I don’t understand how he people that are pissed. I also do t understand gbb being upset about the people upset

I wonder if it played out like this.

Luck confided with the brass back in March that he was seriously considering retirement. Brass told him to take a few months to think about it and they would hold him out of OTAs with a minor injury. They were hoping that after a few months, his competitive juices would win out. When camp began, Luck was still leaning towards retirement and the brass was working on getting him to stay one more year. The longer it went, the more both sides wanted to get a final resolution. Luck still wanted to end it and finally, the brass relented.

Does anyone think this is a possibility?

Sure very possible

Or he may have even told them last year before the season and maybe they convinced him to give it one more year.

Saw a rumor on another board that someone slashed Andrews tires?

God, I hope not.

ESPN is saying the Colts wanted to put Luck on IR but that Luck was adamant that he is done for good.

Credit Luck for that right? Tens of millions of dollars, a new kid on the way and a desire to travel the world. Should he go in IR or go do what he wants.

Jacoby Brisset is the QB of the Indianapolis Colts.

What Luck does with his time is none of my concern, save that I wish him well and wish him happiness.

This was in Peter King's article. Irsay, Ballard, and Reich spoke with Luck over the course of a few days, bringing up options like "go on IR, take your time to get healthy, and we'll see from there."

But Luck was done mentally. It's why I don't think a future return is realistic. Luck knows the toll that football will take on his body and mind. He recently missed an entire season. If that wasn't enough to spark his desire to just get back on the field at all costs, then retirement probably won't either.

Without any real details I’m not sure how so many have an opinion beyond “it sucks” for Colts fans. There are way to many unknowns for anything else. If the medical issue is as minor as we had been led to believe and if Luck has really only seriously contemplated retirement for 2 weeks then yeah I think it raises some legitimate questions. But the reality is that both the Colts and Luck probably are / have been lying about a lot of it. And while it is frustrating as a fan, Luck doesn’t owe any of us detailed information on his medical status or what went into his retirement decision. Those are extremely private issues. Being highly paid doesn’t change that. If anything, being such a high profile player requires even more secrecy and privacy while he contemplated. Could you have imagined the reaction if Luck had a daily press conference to lay out where he stood on retirement that day? Would you want the “help” of millions of people with one of the hardest decisions you’ll ever make? It’s ridiculous. Luck was paid what he was worth, it wasn’t given to him as charity.