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DrSpaceman 01-14-2018 03:08 PM

$100 million QBs are commonplace in this league now. That is typical starter money, $20-25 million a year.

Dam8610 01-14-2018 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 51672)
Don't hire Pagano or Grigson, wait its to late for that.....

So since neither of them are here now, how would they go about doing it? McDaniels certainly isn't the answer.

FatDT 01-14-2018 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 51732)
So since neither of them are here now, how would they go about doing it? McDaniels certainly isn't the answer.

You have no idea what the answer is or what a coach even does in the NFL so your opinion doesn't matter.

omahacolt 01-14-2018 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 51736)
You have no idea what the answer is or what a coach even does in the NFL so your opinion doesn't matter.

They stand there and clap. That is all. If a coach does that then dam likes him.

Dam8610 01-14-2018 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 51736)
You have no idea what the answer is or what a coach even does in the NFL so your opinion doesn't matter.

Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.

If you want my answer, it's great scouting and drafting. It's the common thread of every consistently good franchise. Coming away from each draft with at least two quality starters is crucial, and the more that can be found per draft, the better. Supplementing through free agency should be minimal, and rarely with high dollar contracts. Good coaching helps, but Mike Tomlin proves every year that an average coach with a great scouting department and the support of the franchise can deliver great results. Mike McCarthy has proven that in every one of Aaron Rodgers's healthy years as well. Consistency in coaching also seems to be more important than quality. But no head coach will make your team a contender without a good scouting department behind them and at least one of: a franchise QB and an elite defense, and preferably both.

omahacolt 01-14-2018 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 51757)
Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.

If you want my answer, it's great scouting and drafting. It's the common thread of every consistently good franchise. Coming away from each draft with at least two quality starters is crucial, and the more that can be found per draft, the better. Supplementing through free agency should be minimal, and rarely with high dollar contracts. Good coaching helps, but Mike Tomlin proves every year that an average coach with a great scouting department and the support of the franchise can deliver great results. Mike McCarthy has proven that in every one of Aaron Rodgers's healthy years as well. Consistency in coaching also seems to be more important than quality. But no head coach will make your team a contender without a good scouting department behind them and at least one of: a franchise QB and an elite defense, and preferably both.

Marvin Lewis and the bengals

Dam8610 01-14-2018 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 51770)
Marvin Lewis and the bengals

Not quite sure what your point is here. Lewis is an example of a good head coach who has been stunted by the lack of a scouting department in his organization. That's probably why they never fire him, Mike Brown knows it's his fault that the team on the field isn't producing when it isn't.

Puck 01-14-2018 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 51788)
Not quite sure what your point is here. Lewis is an example of a good head coach who has been stunted by the lack of a scouting department in his organization. That's probably why they never fire him, Mike Brown knows it's his fault that the team on the field isn't producing when it isn't.

He's a good coach? He's a good coach? HE HAS NEVER WON A PLAYOFF GAME!!!!!!

0-7

omahacolt 01-14-2018 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 51788)
Not quite sure what your point is here. Lewis is an example of a good head coach who has been stunted by the lack of a scouting department in his organization. That's probably why they never fire him, Mike Brown knows it's his fault that the team on the field isn't producing when it isn't.

The bengals haven't had talent?

Haha ok.

This fucking guy

YDFL Commish 01-14-2018 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 51791)
The bengals haven't had talent?

Haha ok.

This fucking guy

They are a very talented team. But letting their two best O-linemen walk in free agency was disastrous.

At the same time Lewis runs a very undisciplined ship...and it shows every year.

Luck4Reich 01-14-2018 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 51788)
Not quite sure what your point is here. Lewis is an example of a good head coach who has been stunted by the lack of a scouting department in his organization. That's probably why they never fire him, Mike Brown knows it's his fault that the team on the field isn't producing when it isn't.


Stop trying to convince us all how damn stupid you are. We have known for quite some time.

omahacolt 01-14-2018 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 51792)
They are a very talented team. But letting their two best O-linemen walk in free agency was disastrous.

At the same time Lewis runs a very undisciplined ship...and it shows every year.

But they have consistent coaching. Which dam says is important. Consistent good coaching.

Butter 01-14-2018 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 51757)
Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.

If you want my answer, it's great scouting and drafting. It's the common thread of every consistently good franchise. Coming away from each draft with at least two quality starters is crucial, and the more that can be found per draft, the better. Supplementing through free agency should be minimal, and rarely with high dollar contracts. Good coaching helps, but Mike Tomlin proves every year that an average coach with a great scouting department and the support of the franchise can deliver great results. Mike McCarthy has proven that in every one of Aaron Rodgers's healthy years as well. Consistency in coaching also seems to be more important than quality. But no head coach will make your team a contender without a good scouting department behind them and at least one of: a franchise QB and an elite defense, and preferably both.

Ok then, well that just happened. Dam just jumped all the sharks.

Dam8610 01-14-2018 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 51791)
The bengals haven't had talent?

Haha ok.

This fucking guy

The years that they've had talent, they've made the playoffs, and they haven't in the years they haven't had talent. It's not that difficult to follow or understand.

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 51792)
They are a very talented team. But letting their two best O-linemen walk in free agency was disastrous.

At the same time Lewis runs a very undisciplined ship...and it shows every year.

Not to mention letting Sanu and Jones walk was pretty poor talent evaluation. Letting in house talent walk is a very quick way to end up on the outside of the playoffs looking in.

apballin 01-14-2018 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 51789)
He's a good coach? He's a good coach? HE HAS NEVER WON A PLAYOFF GAME!!!!!!

0-7

Not his fault Jeremy Hill fumbled the game away vs Pitt- that game was over

Racehorse 01-15-2018 08:59 AM

Here's dam singing. Just replace "she" with "he".

She's gone, she's gone
Oh I, oh I
I better learn how to face it
She's gone, she's gone
Oh I, oh I
I'd pay the devil to replace her
She's gone, and she's gone
Oh why, what went wrong?

Dam8610 01-15-2018 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 51865)
Here's dam singing. Just replace "she" with "he".

She's gone, she's gone
Oh I, oh I
I better learn how to face it
She's gone, she's gone
Oh I, oh I
I'd pay the devil to replace her
She's gone, and she's gone
Oh why, what went wrong?

Eh, "Let it go" would be far more apropos around here. That or "The Logical Fallacy Song".

Racehorse 01-15-2018 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 51881)
Eh, "Let it go" would be far more apropos around here. That or "The Logical Fallacy Song".

Maybe this, but change it from beautiful to moronic

She don't know she's beautiful (never crossed her mind)
She don't know she's beautiful (no she's not that kind)
She don't know she's beautiful
Though time and time I've told her so

Puck 01-31-2018 07:31 PM

Bumped because I like the title of this thread

Coltsalr 01-31-2018 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 53896)
Bumped because I like the title of this thread

Let’s be sensitive here, this is a very painful memory for Dam.

smitty46953 02-01-2018 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 53896)
Bumped because I like the title of this thread

Pagano fired

It sure had a nice ring to it !!! :cool:

rcubed 02-01-2018 01:38 PM

Hey dam, read this and pay attention to some of the things allen has to say.

https://www.wthr.com/article/kravitz...s-are-doing-in

Racehorse 02-01-2018 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 53952)
Hey dam, read this and pay attention to some of the things allen has to say.

https://www.wthr.com/article/kravitz...s-are-doing-in

New England is not the only SB team with ex-Colts playing well. Patrick Robinson is doing a fine job in Philly. But coaches do not matter. :rolleyes:

rcubed 02-01-2018 06:04 PM

This was the part I found most interesting from allen:

"It took a little while to get used to it. Definitely took a little while. There were some habits I picked up (in Indianapolis) that just don't fly here.''

YDFL Commish 02-01-2018 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 53952)
Hey dam, read this and pay attention to some of the things allen has to say.

https://www.wthr.com/article/kravitz...s-are-doing-in

Wait a minute, you mean coaching does matter? Discipline does matter? Doing things the right way do matter?

Poppycock, says dam!

Spike 02-01-2018 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 53952)
Hey dam, read this and pay attention to some of the things allen has to say.

https://www.wthr.com/article/kravitz...s-are-doing-in

Hopefully McDaniels brings some of that shit to Indy. Need to get rid of the old regime bullshit immediately.


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