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Wyatt 03-10-2017 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 5691)
I dont care about pats players

Understandable, nor do I, however there is a thread about the guy, therefore I thought I'd better keep our closet Pat's fans updated

smitty46953 03-10-2017 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 5329)
You might be onto something here... from now on these off topic post will go to the smack shack. then argue all you want!

Every thread will end up in smack shack ... lol :eek:

Puck 03-10-2017 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 5698)
Every thread will end up in smack shack ... lol :eek:


just individual post not whole thread HA

rcubed 03-10-2017 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 5696)
Understandable, nor do I, however there is a thread about the guy, therefore I thought I'd better keep our closet Pat's fans updated

dont enable alr. (s)he can jerk off over at patriotsplanet.

Hoopsdoc 03-10-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 5066)
It's not like Allen was the 2nd coming of Dallas Clark or John Mackey. He was a mediocre TE after his rookie year. Nothing fucking special about him. Ballard made a good decision in trading him and giving the Colts some additional cap money while picking up an another 4th round pick. I didn't hate Allen, he just wasn't worth the money he was being paid.

A pats fan I work with asked about Allen, this is what I told him-good run blocker, very physical but not very fast and he has inconsistent hands. Tends to get nicked up a lot.

Wyatt 03-10-2017 04:57 PM

Trash talking Patriot
 
@RyanHannable
New Patriots TE Dwayne Allen: ‘I’m excited to be utilized as a football player again’ http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/...-player-again/ … via @WEEI

Racehorse 03-11-2017 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 5220)
Where have you been? We have posters closing in on your Post Whore status

I figured you all didn't want me posting.

smitty46953 03-11-2017 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 5800)
A pats fan I work with asked about Allen, this is what I told him-good run blocker, very physical but not very fast and he has inconsistent hands. Tends to get nicked up a lot.

Just glad you didn't say a friend you work with !!! LOL :cool:

smitty46953 03-11-2017 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 6076)
I figured you all didn't want me posting.

Heck no, gotta maintain that title, post away !!! :cool:

omahacolt 03-11-2017 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 6076)
I figured you all didn't want me posting.

Seems to me, people need to stop fucking with peoples profiles

Puck 03-11-2017 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 6092)
Seems to me, people need to stop fucking with peoples profiles



Not sure who is doing that.... It isn't an individual thing it is a category. And it appears that the category name has been changed. But we will all get there soon anyway...I hope... I liked Post Whore. But the new one is fine if it was bothering people.


I did see that FatDT posted that someone uploaded a pic to his profile. I never saw it. Not sure how it happened to begin with.

I am not aware of anyone messing with people's profiles and I assure you its not me.

Butter 03-11-2017 10:55 PM

Wasn't me, did not know it was possible.

Puck 03-11-2017 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 6101)
Wasn't me, did not know it was possible.


FatDT shouldn't use Omaha's mom's phone number as his password. He should know everyone has it

DragonTails 03-14-2017 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 5486)
Coaching and scheme caused him to drop passes and get injured?

Well we were 5th in dropped passes so there's something to be said for coaching - or lack there of.

YDFL Commish 03-14-2017 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonTails (Post 6598)
Well we were 5th in dropped passes so there's something to be said for coaching - or lack there of.

Maybe accountability, I'll agree with that.

Wyatt 03-28-2017 10:24 AM

FWIW

@HolderStephen 3m3 minutes ago
On Dwayne Allen, Pagano says: "I think we lost a great player in Dwayne... A great player, great person... We hate to lose Dwayne."

Butter 03-28-2017 11:04 AM

I think for as little as we got for him Allen should have been given another season. Unless there is some stuff behind the scenes with attitude or effort it just doesn't make much sense to me.

sherck 03-28-2017 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 8193)
I think for as little as we got for him Allen should have been given another season. Unless there is some stuff behind the scenes with attitude or effort it just doesn't make much sense to me.

I pointed this out in the salary cup update post, but:

The only guys now making "superstar" money ($10m+ per year) are, you know, NFL stars whom could start on almost any team in the league: Luck, Hilton, Davis and Castonzo.

The guys making "good" starter money ($5m - $9.9m per year) are "Ballard" guys: Doyle, Sheard, Simon.

Everyone else is making $4.250m or less a year and is not "big" money.

Ballard has axed (or retired) everyone who does not fit his mold: Robinson, D'Q, Allen, Walden, Jones, Mathis, Cole, Adams. None superstars and, apparently, none in the mold of what Ballard wanted.

The roster is completely clean of dead weight.

In 2018, the ONLY folks with more than $1m in "dead cap" are: Luck, Hilton, Castonzo and Ryan Kelly (and the 2017 1st round draft pick). And all of them, except Kelly and the 2017 1st round draft pick, could be cut and deliver 2018 cap savings if required.

Our cap is COMPLETELY CLEAN and 100% changeable. No one HAS to be kept because of their cap ramifications.

And that is the way it should be. Allen may have been good (when healthy), but the 4th round draft pick TE we get to replace him will (hopefully) be good and a whole lot cheaper.

Cheers,

omahacolt 03-28-2017 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 8205)
I pointed this out in the salary cup update post, but:

The only guys now making "superstar" money ($10m+ per year) are, you know, NFL stars whom could start on almost any team in the league: Luck, Hilton, Davis and Castonzo.

The guys making "good" starter money ($5m - $9.9m per year) are "Ballard" guys: Doyle, Sheard, Simon.

Everyone else is making $4.250m or less a year and is not "big" money.

Ballard has axed (or retired) everyone who does not fit his mold: Robinson, D'Q, Allen, Walden, Jones, Mathis, Cole, Adams. None superstars and, apparently, none in the mold of what Ballard wanted.

The roster is completely clean of dead weight.

In 2018, the ONLY folks with more than $1m in "dead cap" are: Luck, Hilton, Castonzo and Ryan Kelly (and the 2017 1st round draft pick). And all of them, except Kelly and the 2017 1st round draft pick, could be cut and deliver 2018 cap savings if required.

Our cap is COMPLETELY CLEAN and 100% changeable. No one HAS to be kept because of their cap ramifications.

And that is the way it should be. Allen may have been good (when healthy), but the 4th round draft pick TE we get to replace him will (hopefully) be good and a whole lot cheaper.

Cheers,

we don't need to drop a 4th on a te. defense or oline. 4th round picks can get you talent. the defense needs talent.

omahacolt 03-28-2017 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 8193)
I think for as little as we got for him Allen should have been given another season. Unless there is some stuff behind the scenes with attitude or effort it just doesn't make much sense to me.

yep

i agree.

VeveJones007 03-28-2017 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 8251)
we don't need to drop a 4th on a te. defense or oline. 4th round picks can get you talent. the defense needs talent.

Doyle/Swoppe is good enough. Definitely take BPA in the 4th and don't force a TE.

Puck 03-28-2017 08:26 PM

Stephen Holder‏ @HolderStephen

Among the things Ballard emphasized, he is VERY bullish on Erik Swoope. Like very, very. Wants to see his ceiling. A factor in Allen trade.

VeveJones007 03-28-2017 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 8193)
I think for as little as we got for him Allen should have been given another season. Unless there is some stuff behind the scenes with attitude or effort it just doesn't make much sense to me.

Just wasn't worth the contract. Moving him now accelerates the remaining cap hit and he'll be off the books next offseason.


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