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Racehorse

07-09-2022 09:20 AM

If you all would just give up on the Rs and the Ds and vote libertarian, all would be better.

rcubed

07-09-2022 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 233737)

If you all would just give up on the Rs and the Ds and vote libertarian, all would be better.

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JAFF	07-10-2022 07:33 AM

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i don't necessarily have a problem with voter id.

but i do know getting an ID in North Carolina was a fucking chore. they just don't have enough dmv's to handle the work load. you had to plan on being there all day.

getting people a voting id needs to be easier imo

1. Hire more help, and make it mobile.
2. Have branches where the people are.
a. High schools. When they turn 18, if the family doesnt have a car, this would help.

b. Senior centers
c. Church groups
d. Community centers.
e. County fairs.

Im sure there would be other locations, its early this morning

JAFF	07-10-2022 08:06 AM

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...-dut-rcna37479

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Jan. 6 panel: Ex-White House lawyer spoke of 'Trump’s supreme dereliction of duty'
The statement came amid reports that former Trump White House lawyer Pat Cipollone had invoked executive privilege for some questions Friday.
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Pat Cipollone waits for the beginning of a Cabinet meeting in the East Room of the White House on May 19, 2020.Alex Wong / Getty Images file
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By Dennis Romero
The House Jan. 6 committee Saturday issued a statement describing the input of an ex-White House lawyer as "reinforcing" alleged misconduct by former President Donald Trump.

The idea that the former Trump White House counsel Pat Cipollone might have confirmed others witnesses' damning accounts in his much-anticipated private interview Friday was initially tempered by the possibility that he may have invoked executive privilege, a legal concept intended to allow presidents to speak freely with legal advisers.

Responding to multiple reports that Cipollone had invoked that privilege during his daylong testimony under subpoena, a committee spokesman suggested a different storyline.

"In our interview with Mr. Cipollone, the Committee received critical testimony on nearly every major topic in its investigation, reinforcing key points regarding Donald Trump’s misconduct and providing highly relevant new information that will play a central role in its upcoming hearings," the statement from House Select Committee spokesman Tim Mulvey read.

It continued: "This includes information demonstrating Donald Trump’s supreme dereliction of duty."

Trump and his representatives did not immediately respond to a request for comment late Saturday.

Mulvey did not confirm or deny the reports on privilege, but said Cipollone was never guided by the panel to avoid potentially privileged information.

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In fact, the statement suggests that in Cipollone, the committee got another voice to back up some of the vivid testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson, assistant to former Trump Chief of Staff Mark

'Closing argument': Jan. 6 panel makes final hearings push
She testified that on Jan. 6, 2021, Trump was filled with rage and ordered his Secret Service detail to take him to the Capitol so he could join supporters who would eventually enter the complex and attack police while trying to reach lawmakers and Vice President Mike Pence, all participating in certifying Trump's loss.

She said Secret Service agents in a presidential SUV with Trump refused to take him, and the president lunged for the steering wheel from behind the front seats and then tried to grab the throat of one agent, claims Trump has denied.

She also testified that Trump showed no sympathy for Pence as the rioters were getting potentially life-threateningly close to the vice president and Trump allegedly had the time and the power to call them off. The former president has denied this as well.

On Saturday Mulvey said in the committee's statement that Cipollone "corroborated key elements of Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony."

Lov2fish

07-10-2022 12:29 PM

When are you going to start posting the negative shit Biden does/done? You seem hellbent on dragging one tard through the mud while seemingly giving the other tard a pass.

omahacolt

07-10-2022 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 233759)

When are you going to start posting the negative shit Biden does/done? You seem hellbent on dragging one tard through the mud while seemingly giving the other tard a pass.

i would love to hear some terrible things biden did

JAFF	07-10-2022 01:13 PM

Just for you fish

https://www.pastemagazine.com/politi...e-in-his-poli/

There you go.

There is no evidence that he tried to overturn a legal election by force.

I did post this earlier

http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145847

Colts And Orioles

07-10-2022 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233761)

Just for you fish ......

https://www.pastemagazine.com/politi...e-in-his-poli/

There you go.

There is no evidence that he tried to overturn a legal election by force.

I did post this earlier ......

http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145847

o

Good article. Thanks.

Anybody who supports gutting welfare ought to wake up in the body of a single mother with little kids who was abandoned by her deadbeat, scumbag husband......just once, I would love for that fantasy of mine to come true so that I could see the look on the face of a person who went to bed one night as a well-fed white guy, and then woke up the next morning in that woman's shoes.

o

JAFF	07-10-2022 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 233763)

Well said

JAFF	07-10-2022 06:42 PM

Bannon makes last-minute offer to testify

Bannon makes last-minute offer to testify to Jan. 6 committee ahead of criminal contempt trial

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...imony-00044952

Longtime Donald Trump ally Steve Bannon has made a last-minute offer to testify to the Jan. 6 select committee, just days before his criminal trial for defying the panel’s subpoena is set to begin.

The offer, in a letter from Bannon’s attorney Robert Costello, cited an accompanying letter from Trump himself purporting to “waive” executive privilege over Bannon’s testimony — a privilege that the committee and Justice Department say was never properly invoked and might not be applicable to a former president.

It’s unclear whether the panel considers the offer a serious one. Bannon has for months refused to testify to the committee by claiming absolute “immunity” from congressional subpoenas because of his role in the Trump White House, which ended in 2017. That immunity, he argued, stemmed from longstanding internal Justice Department opinions that prohibit Congress from compelling the testimony of current or former high-level officials. Offering to testify suggests he may be abandoning the immunity claim.

Costello said in the email that Bannon still considered the subpoena invalid but was deferring to Trump’s wish that Bannon testify.

Costello’s letter made no mention of the committee’s subpoena for Bannon’s documents. But Costello said in an email to POLITICO that Bannon also intended to provide documents subpoenaed by the committee as part of any arrangement.

The Justice Department charged Bannon with two counts of criminal contempt in November for his defiance of the select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol. One count concerns his refusal to testify, and the other is for his refusal to provide documents. It’s not clear whether belated compliance would affect either of the counts against him.

Bannon’s offer arrived less than 10 days before his contempt trial was slated to begin, on July 18. And he’s due in court Monday for a crucial hearing before U.S. District Court Judge Carl Nichols, who is weighing Bannon’s attempt to delay his trial until October. Nichols is also considering motions from Bannon that pertain to the Justice Department internal opinions and whether Costello — who advised Bannon not to comply with the select committee last year — can be a witness in his defense.

The offer is another last-minute wrinkle for the select committee from a high-level witness. Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, who is facing a seditious conspiracy charge for his role in assembling the group in Washington on Jan. 6, said Friday he would waive his Fifth Amendment rights and testify if the committee allowed him to do it publicly.

Costello, too, said Bannon would prefer to testify publicly, but that appears to be a nonstarter.

Select committee member Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union” that the committee received the letter from Costello “around midnight” but hadn’t yet had the chance to discuss it.

“I expect that we will be hearing from him,” she said. “And there are many questions that we have for him.”

Another panel member, Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), said on CBS’ “Face the Nation” that investigators would be open to hearing from Bannon but that he wouldn’t be treated differently from any other witness.

“The way that we have treated every single witness is the same, that they come in, they talk to the committee there,” he said. “If they’re going to take a deposition, they’re sworn under oath. It’s videotaped. It’s recorded, and then we take it from there,”

A committee spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Bannon’s offer.

JAFF	07-10-2022 06:48 PM

Fire threatening Yosemite's famed grove

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/y...ree/index.html

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(CNN) — A growing wildfire in California's Yosemite National Park is "within a couple of miles" of the famed Mariposa Grove of giant sequoia trees, a park official says.
Scott Gediman, the park's chief spokesperson, told CNN on Sunday that flames from the 1,591-acre Washburn Fire were "very close, they are right around (the grove)."

Evacuation orders issued as fire threatens Yosemite's Mariposa Grove, home to more than 500 giant sequoia trees
Mariposa Grove is home to more than 500 giant sequoia trees, which can grow to more than 250 feet tall. The grove was founded in 1857 but the trees existed long before that, with some believed to be more than 2,000 years old.

Gediman also noted the fire about a mile or two from the park's oldest hotel, the Wawona Hotel, which was established in 1856, according to its website. Park officials have urged people in the Wawona campground and community to evacuate.
The Washburn Fire began July 7 and doubled in size from Saturday to Sunday, burning near the lower portion of the grove, park officials said earlier. A total of 360 fire personnel are working to contain the fire from the ground and air.

"Fire is naturally part of the ecosystem, but it's these high-intensity fires that are causing the damage that happened, for example, in the Creek Fire and sthe TCF complex last year in Sequoia National Park," Gediman said.

Gediman said it is "steep, heavily forested terrain" and they are relying on air and ground support to protect the park. "Air support is certainly helpful, but we've got a lot of hotshot crews and firefighters on the ground that are going in to suppress the fire. So it's really a ground and air attack, coordinated, that is going to get us to the suppression that we aiming toward as soon as we can."

Fire crews had success at the heel of the fire, at its origin point near the Mariposa Grove area, Matt Ahearn, the operations section chief with California Interagency Incident Management Team 13, said earlier Sunday.

"Top end of the Mariposa Grove, fire has backed into the grove a bit," Ahearn said. "We do have crews up on these edges, they've worked handline out of the bottom, direct handline all the way up and around. ... We need to now reinforce with hose lays."

Ahearn said that hotshot crews were on their way to the area and the fire's acreage was expected to be updated later Sunday after aerial intelligence was completed.

In a statement posted to InciWeb -- a site for coordinating fire response -- officials said the fire was burning in difficult terrain "with continuous heavy fuels in and around the fire."

"Significant tree mortality from 2013-2015 has left significant dead standing and dead fallen fuels. This also presents significant safety hazards to firefighters," the statement said.

Weather is forecast to get hotter through the week. However, fire scars from past fires about 1 to 3 miles from the Washburn Fire perimeter will help in slowing it, officials said.

Firefighters have put a sprinkler system around the Grizzly Giant, a famed Sequoia in Mariposa Grove, to protect it from the flames and park officials have said the grove will remain closed until further notice.

Yosemite is one of the most visited national parks in the US, drawing more than 3.3 million people in 2021. It encompasses nearly 1,200 square miles in the Sierra Nevada range in eastern California.

Meanwhile, California crews are also battling the Electra Fire, which has scorched more than 4,400 acres across Amador and Calaveras counties, also in the Sierra Nevada, according to Cal Fire.

How the climate crisis is forever changing our national parks
The blaze prompted the state's first night-water-drop operation via helicopter Wednesday, when about 12,000 gallons of water were dumped on the flames, Cal Fire Battalion Chief Isaac Sanchez told CNN.

"The helicopter was brought in to assist in the cooling and containment of a firing operation which had taken place earlier in the afternoon," Sanchez said. "While assigned to this operation, the helicopter identified additional areas where the fire had crept over the containment lines and was able to aid in their full extinguishment and containment."

The western US has been ravaged by wildfires in recent years, exacerbated by drought conditions tied to climate change. In California alone, more than 2.5 million acres were destroyed in nearly 9,000 fires last year, according to Cal Fire.
Last month, officials in Southern California said they were bracing for another challenging summer and fall amid a shortage of firefighting crews and increased workloads.

The threat is not limited to California. Robert Garcia, the US Forest Service's fire chief for the Angeles National Forest, said the summer months are off to a "concerning start." Firefighting resources have been mobilizing since March to Arizona and New Mexico, where the Black Fire just became the state's second-largest blaze in history.

"Southern California typically has a fire season of historically late June and then into the fall," Garcia told CNN last month. "But we're seeing activity now year-round."

Just heart breaking.

Lov2fish

07-11-2022 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 233763)

For the record, I am in favor of a safety net for the truly downtrodden in society. I am not for continued support of those who use the system as a career, and it happens. To receive those benefits should be a requirement to attend some kind of job skills classes to learn a trade. No indefinite free rides. I am perfectly fine with funding that type of program.

Colts And Orioles

07-11-2022 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 233763)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233764)

Well said.

o

Thanks.

There is a really good episode of Tales from the Darkside called, Payment Overdue.

It is about callous female collection agent who constantly harasses an immigrant woman named Rita Valdez. Valdez also has migraine headaches, 2 kids to support, and speaks limited English. When somebody asked the collection what she would do if she were in that woman's shoes, she replied, "I would not feel sorry for myself, like this woman does. I would learn the English language, and I would do everything that I could to better myself."

Well, she had just that opportunity to do so, as she woke up the next morning with migraine headaches, a strong Spanish accent, a limited comprehension of the English language, several kids to take care of, and overdue bills. :eek:

It was one of the best episodes of that series ever, and I would love it if it were required watching for high school students throughout the country.

o

Racehorse

07-11-2022 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 233784)

I agree for the most part. However, I have learned that a lot of people on assistance are not even close to employable. We need to fix substance abuse and have some sort of hep for mental illness.

JAFF	07-11-2022 07:25 PM

Steve Bannon says he's willing to testify

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/10/polit...ege/index.html

Steve Bannon says he's willing to testify

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. pt charges -- told the House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, insurrection on Saturday that he is now willing to testify, ideally at a public hearing, according to a letter obtained by CNN.

Bannon's reversal comes after he received a letter from former President Donald Trump waiving executive privilege, although both the House select committee and federal prosecutors contend that privilege claim never gave Bannon carte blanche to ignore a congressional subpoena in the first place.
"When you first received the Subpoena to testify and provide documents, I invoked Executive Privilege. However, I watched how unfairly you and others have been treated, having to spend vast amounts of money on legal fees, and all of the trauma you must be going through for the love of your Country, and out of respect for the Office of the President," Trump wrote in a Saturday letter to Bannon, which was also obtained by CNN.
Bannon and DOJ don't want to talk politics or January 6 specifics at contempt trial
Bannon and DOJ don't want to talk politics or January 6 specifics at contempt trial
"Therefore, if you reach an agreement on a time and place for your testimony, I will waive Executive Privilege for you, which allows you to go in and testify truthfully and fairly" Trump added, as he went on to decry the committee of "Thugs and Hacks."
The letters were first reported by The Guardian.
Bannon was charged last year with two counts of criminal contempt of Congress. He has argued that he was free to ignore his congressional subpoena in order to protect Trump's potential privilege claims. But federal prosecutors and other legal experts have argued that privilege does not apply to Bannon -- who left his White House gig as chief strategist years before the Capitol riot -- and did not give him the authority to refuse to provide any documents or testimony to the committee.
Bannon's team provided Trump's new letter to the January 6 committee overnight, along with a letter from Bannon lawyer Bob Costello.
"While Mr. Bannon has been steadfast in his convictions, circumstances have now changed," Costello wrote. "Mr. Bannon is willing to, and indeed prefers, to testify at your public hearing."
Rep. Zoe Lofgren, a California Democrat who sits on the January 6 panel, told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" on Sunday that the committee hasn't yet had a chance to discuss Bannon's letter, but that "I expect that we will be hearing from him and there are many questions that we have for him."
Lofgren, however, said that public testimony from Bannon was unlikely, noting that the committee typically does depositions. "This goes on for hour after hour after hour. We want to get all our questions answered, and you can't do that in a live format," she said.
The January 6 committee was interested in speaking to Bannon about his communications with Trump in December 2020, when Bannon reportedly urged him to focus on the January 6 certification of the presidential election results. Committee members were also interested in Bannon's comments in the run-up to the Capitol insurrection, including a podcast on January 5, in which he predicted, "All hell is going to break loose tomorrow."
In a Monday court filing, federal prosecutors called Bannon's willingness to now testify before the House select committee a "last-minute" effort that doesn't change the case against him, pointing out that he has not produced subpoenaed records.
"The Defendant's last-minute efforts to testify almost nine months after his default — he has still made no effort to produce records — are irrelevant to whether he willfully refused to comply in October 2021 with the Select Committee's subpoena," prosecutors wrote.
Bannon is currently set to go to trial on July 18.
"The criminal contempt statute is not intended to procure compliance; it is intended to punish past noncompliance," prosecutors wrote in their filing.
A spokesperson for the committee did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
This story has been updated with additional developments and reaction.

By the way, the executive privilege is nonsense. Bannon wasnt working for Trump at the time in question, so Bannon will sing

Racehorse

07-12-2022 10:35 AM

More money to be made off a book deal if he turns on Trump.

JAFF	07-12-2022 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 233820)

More money to be made off a book deal if he turns on Trump.

A trump appointed judge told him he has no defense for the contempt charge, so he is in a tight spot. He had better have a bunch of evidence to turn over, there wont be a second pardon.

Racehorse

07-12-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233827)

A trump appointed judge told him he has no defense for the contempt charge, so he is in a tight spot. He had better have a bunch of evidence to turn over, there wont be a second pardon.

Does not change what I said in the least.

JAFF	07-12-2022 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 233837)

Does not change what I said in the least.

I didnt think it would.

JAFF	07-12-2022 09:07 PM

Witness tampering

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live...s/?id=86598399

Trump tried to call Jan. 6 committee witness, Cheney says

Vice Chair Liz Cheney said, in closing the hearing, that Trump himself tried to call a witness who she said has not yet publicly testified.

"After our last hearing, President Trump tried to call a witness in our investigation -- a witness you have not yet seen in these hearings," she said.

Cheney said the witness did not answer the call.

PHOTO: Rep. Liz Cheney speaks during a House select committee hearing investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol in Washington, July 12, 2022.

"Their lawyer alerted us, and this committee has supplied that information to the Department of Justice," she said.

"Let me say one more time, we will take any effort to influence witness testimony very seriously," she added, as the committee continually warns against witness tampering in its ongoing investigation.

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18 U.S. Code § 1512 - Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant
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(a)
(1) Whoever kills or attempts to kill another person, with intent to—
(A) prevent the attendance or testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(B) prevent the production of a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(C) prevent the communication by any person to a law enforcement officer or judge of the United States of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense or a violation of conditions of probation, parole, or release pending judicial proceedings;
shall be punished as provided in paragraph (3).
(2) Whoever uses physical force or the threat of physical force against any person, or attempts to do so, with intent to—
(A) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(B) cause or induce any person to—
(i) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(ii) alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal an object with intent to impair the integrity or availability of the object for use in an official proceeding;
(iii) evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(iv) be absent from an official proceeding to which that person has been summoned by legal process; or
(C) hinder, delay, or prevent the communication to a law enforcement officer or judge of the United States of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense or a violation of conditions of probation, supervised release, parole, or release pending judicial proceedings;
shall be punished as provided in paragraph (3).
(3) The punishment for an offense under this subsection is—
(A) in the case of a killing, the punishment provided in sections 1111 and 1112;
(B) in the case of—
(i) an attempt to murder; or
(ii) the use or attempted use of physical force against any person;
imprisonment for not more than 30 years; and
(C) in the case of the threat of use of physical force against any person, imprisonment for not more than 20 years.
(b) Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to—
(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to—
(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(B) alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal an object with intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding;
(C) evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(D) be absent from an official proceeding to which such person has been summoned by legal process; or
(3) hinder, delay, or prevent the communication to a law enforcement officer or judge of the United States of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense or a violation of conditions of probation [1] supervised release,,[1] parole, or release pending judicial proceedings;
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
(c) Whoever corruptly—
(1) alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document, or other object, or attempts to do so, with the intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding; or
(2) otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
(d) Whoever intentionally harasses another person and thereby hinders, delays, prevents, or dissuades any person from—
(1) attending or testifying in an official proceeding;
(2) reporting to a law enforcement officer or judge of the United States the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense or a violation of conditions of probation 1 supervised release,,1 parole, or release pending judicial proceedings;
(3) arresting or seeking the arrest of another person in connection with a Federal offense; or
(4) causing a criminal prosecution, or a parole or probation revocation proceeding, to be sought or instituted, or assisting in such prosecution or proceeding;
or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 3 years, or both.
(e) In a prosecution for an offense under this section, it is an affirmative defense, as to which the defendant has the burden of proof by a preponderance of the evidence, that the conduct consisted solely of lawful conduct and that the defendant’s sole intention was to encourage, induce, or cause the other person to testify truthfully.
(f) For the purposes of this section—
(1) an official proceeding need not be pending or about to be instituted at the time of the offense; and
(2) the testimony, or the record, document, or other object need not be admissible in evidence or free of a claim of privilege.
(g) In a prosecution for an offense under this section, no state of mind need be proved with respect to the circumstance—
(1) that the official proceeding before a judge, court, magistrate judge, grand jury, or government agency is before a judge or court of the United States, a United States magistrate judge, a bankruptcy judge, a Federal grand jury, or a Federal Government agency; or
(2) that the judge is a judge of the United States or that the law enforcement officer is an officer or employee of the Federal Government or a person authorized to act for or on behalf of the Federal Government or serving the Federal Government as an adviser or consultant.
(h) There is extraterritorial Federal jurisdiction over an offense under this section.
(i) A prosecution under this section or section 1503 may be brought in the district in which the official proceeding (whether or not pending or about to be instituted) was intended to be affected or in the district in which the conduct constituting the alleged offense occurred.
(j) If the offense under this section occurs in connection with a trial of a criminal case, the maximum term of imprisonment which may be imposed for the offense shall be the higher of that otherwise provided by law or the maximum term that could have been imposed for any offense charged in such case.
(k) Whoever conspires to commit any offense under this section shall be subject to the same penalties as those prescribed for the offense the commission of which was the object of the conspiracy.

omahacolt

07-13-2022 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 233800)

I agree for the most part. However, I have learned that a lot of people on assistance are not even close to employable. We need to fix substance abuse and have some sort of hep for mental illness.

there used to be more help for mental illness from what i heard. was shit canned under reagan.

i haven't looked that up but it tracks

omahacolt

07-13-2022 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 233820)

More money to be made off a book deal if he turns on Trump.

so if he turns on trump, what he says didn't really happen because of a book deal?

Lov2fish

07-13-2022 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 233895)

there used to be more help for mental illness from what i heard. was shit canned under reagan.

i haven't looked that up but it tracks

Reagan completely dismantled the mental health industry in America. It literally turned crazy people loose in the streets with nowhere to go, and no further help. I am old enough to have seen our government commit atrocities against its own people with reckless abandon.

JAFF	07-14-2022 07:02 AM

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3...affer-reports/

Jan. 6 witness that Trump allegedly dialed was White House support staffer: reports
BY ZACH SCHONFELD - 07/13/22 11:18 PM ET

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The hearing room of the House Jan. 6 committee is seen on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 before a hearing focusing on the ties between former President Trump and far-right extremist groups.
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The hearing room of the House Jan. 6 committee is seen on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 before a hearing focusing on the ties between former President Trump and far-right extremist groups.
The Jan. 6 House committee witness who President Trump allegedly tried to call after a recent hearing was a member of the White House support staff, CNN and NBC reported Wednesday night.
Citing two sources familiar with the matter, CNN reported that Trump made the call after the committee heard public testimony by Cassidy Hutchinson, a top aide to Trump White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, late last month.

The witness was in a position to corroborate part of Hutchinson’s testimony, the outlet reported.
NBC confirmed that the recipient of the alleged call was a support staffer, and had also been talking to the Jan. 6 committee.
Hutchinson testified that Trump knew many in the crowd at his rally on the Ellipse on Jan. 6 were armed.
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She also testified that following the rally, Trump lunged at the steering wheel of his Secret Service vehicle and an agent in an attempt to join his supporters at the Capitol.
Secret Service agents are reportedly prepared to refute that part of Hutchinson’s testimony.
At the end of its most recent hearing, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), the panel’s vice chair, said Trump had placed a call to an undisclosed witness who has not appeared publicly at the hearings.

“That person declined to answer or respond to President Trump’s call and instead alerted their lawyer to the call. Their lawyer alerted us, and this committee has supplied that information to the Department of Justice,” Cheney said.
“We will take any effort to influence witness testimony very seriously,” she added.
Republican Sen. Mitt Romney (Utah) called the allegation “very serious” on Wednesday, and dismissed speculation Trump accidentally pocket-dialed the witness.

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The Hill has reached out to Trump’s office and the Jan. 6 committee for comment.
Cheney’s revelation at Tuesday’s hearing isn’t the first allegation of a pressure campaign by Trump and his allies against committee witnesses. The panel alleged at a hearing last month that at least one witness received text messages from Trump allies in advance of their testimony.
“[A person] let me know you have your deposition tomorrow. He wants me to let you know that he’s thinking about you. He knows you’re loyal, and you’re going to do the

Colts And Orioles

07-14-2022 08:36 AM

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Here is that particular episode ......

https://archive.org/details/PDTV0156...nt+Overdue.mp4

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JAFF	07-14-2022 01:11 PM

Prominent conservatives issue report

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/polit...ims/index.html

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A group of conservatives, including prominent lawyers and retired federal judges, issued a 72-page report on Thursday categorically rebutting each of the claims made in court by former President Donald Trump and his supporters over the 2020 election results.

The report, "LOST, NOT STOLEN: The Conservative Case that Trump Lost and Biden Won the 2020 Presidential Election," looked at more than 60 court cases Trump and his supporters filed and lost in six key battleground states. It reached the "unequivocal" conclusion that the former Republican president's claims were unsupportable -- which Trump's own Department of Homeland Security as well as election officials nationwide debunked days after the 2020 election.
The report was released as the House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, insurrection at the US Capitol has been holding public hearings that have connected Trump's involvement in efforts to overturn the 2020 election to the attack that disrupted Congress from certifying Joe Biden's victory. Trump is considering an early 2024 presidential run announcement, CNN has previously reported.
"There is absolutely no evidence of fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election on the magnitude necessary to shift the result in any state, let alone the nation as a whole. In fact, there was no fraud that changed the outcome in even a single precinct," the report says.

The report is signed by retired federal appeals court judges Thomas B. Griffith, J. Michael Luttig and Michael W. McConnell, former Solicitor General Theodore B. Olson, former US Sens. John Danforth and Gordon H. Smith, longtime Republican election lawyer Benjamin L. Ginsberg and veteran Republican congressional chief of staff David Hoppe. Several of them are longtime Trump critics.
"Even now, twenty months after the election, a period in which Trump's supporters have been energetically scouring every nook and cranny for proof that the election was stolen, they come up empty. Claims are made, trumpeted in sympathetic media, and accepted as truthful by many patriotic Americans. But on objective examination they have fallen short, every time," the report says.
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The report warns that it's "wrong, and bad for our country, for people to propagate baseless claims that President Biden's election was not legitimate."
It delved into a detailed examination of each case brought by Trump and his supporters in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump and his backers alleged fraud, irregularities and procedural deficiencies in their challenges in court.
Trump and his allies lost nearly all the more than 60 cases they brought challenging the 2020 election results, the report noted. Twenty were dismissed before a hearing on the merits, 14 were dropped by Trump and his supporters, and 30 included a hearing on the merits, it found.
The group of conservatives argued that Trump and his supporters had "an obligation to recognize that the election debate was over."
"Questions of election legality must be resolved dispassionately in courts of law, not through rallies and demonstrations—and most emphatically, not by applying political pressure and threats to induce Congress to ignore its constitutional duty and the electoral outcome for which the people voted, and which the legal processes of the affected states had examined and confirmed," the report says.
The group urged "fellow conservatives to cease obsessing over the results of the 2020 election, and to focus instead on presenting candidates and ideas that offer a positive vision for overcoming our current difficulties and bringing greater peace, prosperity, and liberty to our nation."
The January 6 committee has held seven public hearings so far, presenting witness testimony from Trump campaign and administration staffers that there was no evidence of election fraud and that Trump disregarded warnings that his plan to overturn the election was illegal. The hearings have also detailed Trump's pressure campaign at different levels of government and his attempts to enlist the Department of Justice in his efforts.

JAFF	07-14-2022 03:36 PM

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Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Wednesday night once again defended Vladimir Putin.
He suggested Italy is a bigger threat to world domination because its economy is slightly larger.
Carlson omitted the fact that Russia's annual military spending is more than twice as much as Italy's.
After briefly changing his tune on Russian President Vladimir Putin shortly after the invasion of Ukraine, Fox News host Tucker Carlson was back to defending him on Wednesday night.

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Comparing Russia's gross domestic product (GDP) to that of Italy, Carlson took a leap and suggested the country with an active military force of 340,000 poses a bigger global threat than Russia's roughly 1 million troops on active duty.

"Russia's economy is smaller than Italy's," Carlson said, showing a chart from Visual Capitalist of global GDP broken down by country, similar to a pie chart. "The Italians, in other words, are in a better position to take over the world than Vladimir Putin."

The World Bank puts Russia's 2021 GDP at $1.78 trillion and Italy's at $2.1 trillion.

Aside from Russia also having around 2 million reserve troops — some of whom have already been deployed to Ukraine, according to British intelligence — Carlson omitted the fact that, despite having a bigger economy, Italy's defense budget is three times smaller than Russia's and their annual military spending is half of Russia's, according to a comparison from the Global Firepower Index.

How the Kremlin is trying to make Ukrainian towns Russian, from installing puppet leaders to flying Soviet flags

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How the Kremlin is trying to make Ukrainian towns Russian, from installing puppet leaders to flying Soviet flags
Russian authorities are attempting to strip occupied Ukraine of its national culture.
Russia has installed its flags, monuments, and politicians in several Ukrainian cities and towns.
The occupied city of Kherson is even being forced to use the Russian ruble.
Amid the ongoing violence of war, Russian President Vladimir Putin's apparent long game in Ukraine — a nefarious attempt to assert total and long-term control on the neighboring country — is coming into clear view.

From the introduction of Russian currency to the complete shuttering of Ukrainian broadcasting, the Kremlin is taking extreme measures to make Ukrainian towns look, feel, and operate like Russia.

Prior to the start of the war, Putin erroneously claimed that Ukraine was not an independent state, baselessly arguing that the country was a creation of the Soviet Union and part of Russia's historic territory.

Now, as Russia's invasion stretches into its third month, it seems Putin is aiming to make his claims a reality.

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The same index puts Russia's military strength in second place behind the US, with Italy ranked 11th out of 142 nations.

Italy is also not engaged in an active war, while Russian troops have been accused of committing war crimes by the United Nations. They have targeted Ukrainian civilians in mass-casualty missile strikes, from a shopping mall in Kremenchuk to a crowded theater in Mariupol, where an estimated 600 people were killed.

Fox News did not immediately respond Insider's request for comment.

Russian state media has used clips from Carlson's show on several occasions to justify the invasion of Ukraine, which, by law, must be referred to as a "special military operation." A leaked memo published by Mother Jones showed Kremlin talking points telling state media outlets to use the primetime host's material "as much as possible."

"It is essential to use as much as possible fragments of broadcasts of the popular Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who sharply criticizes the actions of the United States [and] NATO, their negative role in unleashing the conflict in Ukraine, [and] the defiantly provocative behavior from the leadership of the Western countries and NATO towards the Russian Federation and towards President Putin, personally," the March 2021 memo advised.

Carlson argued that by virtue of both Republicans and Democrats remaining in favor of providing Ukraine with billions in defense assistance, his viewers should be inherently skeptical and question whether any of it will "improve your life."

"This entire conversation is insane," Carlson said of the bipartisan consensus. "Anyone who takes it seriously is a fool, and anyone who doesn't see the red flags is probably dishonest."

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JAFF	07-14-2022 04:04 PM

senators agree to clarify vice president's role in electoral certification

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/polit...ors/index.html

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Senators from both parties have reached an agreement to clarify that the vice president only has a ceremonial role in overseeing the certification of the electoral results, according to two Senate sources, the first legislative response to former President Donald Trump's pressure campaign to overturn the 2020 presidential election results.

The agreement will be part of a larger deal to overhaul the Electoral Count Act, which a bipartisan group of senators plans to unveil as soon as next week. The effort was spawned by Trump's effort to get Congress and then-Vice President Mike Pence to disregard now-President Joe Biden's electoral win and install him into a second term, with senators looking to make it harder to do that future.
While constitutional experts and others say the vice president currently can't disregard a state certified electoral result, Trump continually berated Pence over the issue and told him to simply send the matter back to the states. Pence resisted the effort -- despite being a target of Trump and his mob of supporters who stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021.
The pressure campaign against the vice president has been a key part of the House select committee's investigation into the Capitol Hill insurrection.

That larger deal is close to being finalized, with senators meeting Wednesday night saying that they are still ironing out some of the language.
"We're hopeful," said Sen. Joe Manchin, a Democrat of West Virginia, on Wednesday about the timetable for announcing a deal.
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"We are very close. We have a few technical issues to iron out. And I'm very hopeful we'll have a bill early next week," said Sen. Susan Collins, a Maine Republican, on Wednesday who added that because of jurisdictional issues, the group may propose a series of bills to address the needed reforms, but they have not made a decision on that yet.
"The Rules Committee clearly has jurisdiction over the Electoral Count Act, Homeland Security clearly has jurisdiction over the Postal Service and over presidential transitions, which we are also trying to smooth out when there's a case when it isn't clear who's won," she said, explaining why the bill might need to be split up.
The senators said they expected their proposal to be referred to committees of jurisdiction where they would be assessed further before votes on the floor.
"The group has done good work," Democratic Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia said.

Colts And Orioles

07-14-2022 04:17 PM

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Is there any chance that we can merge some of these political threads ???

I know that the general board doesn't get much traffic in the first place, but almost every other thread in this particular section of ColtFreaks is quickly getting buried on the 2nd and 3rd pages.

Not that anybody cares about the majority of stuff that I post in the first place, but my thread about the historic college basketball games between North Carolina and Duke is already on Page 3, as is my thread about the Cleveland Indians changing their name to the Cleveland Guardians.

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Racehorse

07-14-2022 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 233938)

Merged them. Nothing was deleted, just merged. Maybe we need a politics subforum.

Lov2fish

07-14-2022 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 233947)

Merged them. Nothing was deleted, just merged. Maybe we need a politics subforum.

Or a no politics allowed? I'm good with it. Six months of down time on the board is better than the constant bickering.

Racehorse

07-15-2022 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 233953)

Or a no politics allowed? I'm good with it. Six months of down time on the board is better than the constant bickering.

That is not my call, but I would agree.

Colts And Orioles

07-15-2022 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 233947)

Merged them. Nothing was deleted, just merged. Maybe we need a politics sub-forum.

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This would be ideal ......

1) ) It would give Jaff unlimited room for the posting of his threads, every time the urge tickled his fancy.

2) ) It would not clutter up the General Discussion board.

3) ) It could be easily ignored by those who don't care enough to continue arguing about it.

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JAFF	07-16-2022 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 233970)

I havent the faintest idea what you are saying. I had no intention of cluttering anything. I will follow that ever guild lines are set for the board

Colts And Orioles

07-16-2022 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 233970)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233992)

I haven't the faintest idea what you are saying. I had no intention of cluttering anything. I will follow that ever guild lines are set for the board.

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You haven't the faintest idea of what I am saying ???

And you have no idea why l Racehorse l merged most of the 25 political threads that you started in the last 6 weeks, either ???

Ignorance is bliss ...... your intention may not have been to clutter the General Discussion board, but anyone who hasn't been living on the moon can see that the countless political threads that you've been starting were doing that.

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JAFF	07-17-2022 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 233996)

I didnt put them in the football, its a general section. Thats where the mod moved them months ago. I

If someone makes a section for politics I would put them there. No one was required to read them.

Colts And Orioles

07-17-2022 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234002)

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Placing threads in the correct forum is not the only decorum that ColtFreaks has. You managed to take a section of the board that was rarely visited in the first place, and pushed almost every non-political thread off of Page One. If you want to be obstinate and refuse to acknowledge that your countless political threads were clogging up the General Discussion board, fine ...... the fact that l Racehorse l merged almost all of those threads, coupled with the fact that the administrators of ColtFreaks are strongly considering having a separate section for politics only say otherwise.

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Racehorse

07-17-2022 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 234011)

To be fair, I merged them at a request, and not on my own.

Spike

07-17-2022 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 234011)

No need for a separate political thread C&O. Jaff only posts DTS shit, just need to make a DTS section for Jaff. We have never had this problem before.

Colts And Orioles

07-17-2022 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 234012)

To be fair, I merged them at a request, and not on my own.

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OK, point taken.

Still, you did merge the threads upon suggestion, and you did suggest that we have a separate forum for politics, so I suspect that you understood the overall point that I was making and the reason why I made the request to merge the threads in the first place.

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