My understanding is no. He does not have a no trade clause like Watson had. Cleveland is in control.

He’s still on his rookie contract so no.

The Browns said last week they’d work with him on facilitating a trade but who knows if they were serious.

Probably a third.

I hope

Agreed. The question is whether he's the type who will throw a tanrum and/or pout about it like Wentz, or this will motivate him to work on fixing things?

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How good would a Colts- browns playoff matchup be if he comes here

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Probably Seattle. Browns don't want him in the AFC.

Really? Why? You think they think he is a QB that they don't want to face? Any yet they gave up three firsts and 230 million dollars to a guy on the rapy scale just to get rid of him. Me thinks they don't give a shit where he ends up or if they have to play against him. Not saying we will end up with the guy, but if we want him he will be playing for us next year.

Seattle does have a lot more draft capital than we do currently, so if they want Mayfield then they'll be able to easily outbid us. Other than that I don't see why Cleveland would want to ship him there instead of to the Colts.

Not in the AFC?

If they truly think he needs to go and their new rapist is the "Man" they shouldn't be afraid to ship him anywhere.

I wouldnt make it habit of thinking any sports teams are good at making common sense decisions

Fair enough, especially the Browns :D

Since I don't see any of the available QBs being capable of elevating this team to a Super Bowl I would prefer we just sign Mariota and not give any draft capital up.

The only player I would be ok in giving up draft capital would be Ryan. Not so much because I think he would take us to the Super Bowl, but because he is as good if not better than anything left we could get and most importantly would be an incredible person for a young QB to learn from. He has got two years remaining. If traded his cap hit isn't that bad 23 million this year and 28 million next year. Giving up a second day (no higher than a third if that) for a two year starter who can help mold the next QB seems reasonable to me.

He is looking better, I cant believe I just typed that

I feel your pain brother

Hope to god you were wearing a glove

I think if Mariotta was who Ballard wanted to sign then he would have been signed already. The market should be set for him w/ the Trubisky signing. Could be wrong though.

Fair enough, it is the Browns. They are the epitome of dysfunction

Browns traded Keenum and signed Brisset so I suspect Mayfield will be gone by Monday. No way they carry Watson, Mayfield and Jacoby.

Could they just cut mayfield?

I think Ballard is playing hardball knowing they’re fucked

I think he would still be a dead cap hit against them, but I guess if they can't get a trade its possible. Again, it is the Browns and anything is possible. lol

Like IndyNorm said, if we wanted one of the free agents it would already have been done. This smells like a trade. Please don't let it be Mayfield.

He's ~$19M dead money if they just cut him, so I'm guessing they will hold on to him as long as they can for a trade.

Per zak keefer

“Mayfield wanting the Colts is just one side of the equation, remember.
More important: Do the Colts want Mayfield?
To date, I haven’t heard anything to suggest they do. It doesn’t mean a deal won’t happen — the Colts’ options are limited, remember — but I see it as unlikely, based on conversations Friday. Over the last few months, the Colts were determined to move on from Wentz, convinced that he wasn’t the right fit as franchise quarterback. It’s hard to see them believing Mayfield would be — even as a stopgap — while they continue to look for their quarterback of the future in the draft.”


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Yeah, I could see that. Like I've said before if we can get him for less than what we got in return for Wentz then it's worth the risk IMO. The more I think about it the more I don't want us to have a throw away year this year. Especially if it's so we can draft Stroud, since being an OSU guy he'll either suck or get hurt non-stop if we draft him.

See, now this makes more sense. If the Colts don’t really want him, then they’re not offering much at all for him. Kind of like the Eason situation. They gave him a fourth round grade and he was still there in the 4th, so they drafted him.

I’m guessing Ballard made the best offer he was comfortable making, which isn’t much, and the Browns are holding out for more. Which they’ll probably end up getting.

This seems like the most logical explanation for what’s going on.

There are more guys than just Stroud. Also seems every year a Qb emerges from the pack like Burrow.

O'Connel from Purdue will likely go late in the first round of 2023...kid can play!

Maybe it's b/c we're staring down the barrel of a throw away season, but the more I think about it the more I'd like to see us take a chance on Baker as long as the price is right draft pick wise (as mentioned less than what we got for Wentz). Here are some thoughts on his shortcomings:

His inconsistency: A lot of his inconsistency the first 2 years could be chalked up to incompetent coaching staffs. While Gregg Williams seemed to right the ship a bit as the interim after Jackson was fired, Jackson and Kitchens were obviously in way over their heads. How do you think things would have gone if we had canned Clappy halfway through '17 and then brought in Chud as the HC in '18? When the Browns hired a competent coaching staff Mayfield had a really good year in '20. Then in '21 he was playing injured from week 2 on. Also, every QB who has played under Reich has improved, so we have that going for us too.

Drama: For starters it's the Browns, really don't need to say more but I will. Obviously he could have handled things much better, but I'm guessing a lot of the drama was OBJ's fault. OBJ has shown what a giant douche he can be in NYG, and I could definitely see him deciding he wanted out of Cleveland and stirred up all kinds of shit to make that happen sooner rather than later. Again, just guessing on my part, but it's totally plausible.

Contract: Could be wrong, but the fact that Baker specifically wants to come here should give us leverage when it comes to his contract. This should help in either convincing Baker to play out his contract and if he performs then get an extension or extending him to a more team friend incentive driven deal. For the former Ballard has shown that for the most part if you produce and are good in the locker room he'll pay to keep you, so it shouldn't be hard to convince Baker of that. And the Browns are stupid, so maybe Ballard convinces them to eat a portion of his '22 salary to save on his cap hit.

Anyway, just my .02.

No he wont. Hes tough, but doesnt have the arm talent for the first round

We shall see......:D

Hey, I live 40 miles from PU and hes a player. He reminds me of Jim Harbaugh. I like him, I would draft him, but not in the first round

Made it through Sunday No Baker Im good to date

I don’t think the Colts are even interested in Baker. You’re safe.

I have no idea who the Colts are interested in. They are incredibly silent. I like that. Sign of a well run team. Wish we would start to win like one.

Ballard was never interested in Mayfield.

Thank GOD!!!!