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CanuckColt 03-16-2020 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 156227)
I hope this doesn't mean Ballard is going to give Rivers a blank check. I hope this does mean Ballard is pursuing Bridgewater.

NO!!! to Bridgewater. YUCK! Worse than Jake Brisket.

Dam8610 03-16-2020 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 156294)
Possibly the most stupid statement ever made on this forum!

It's stupid to think Winston could resurrect his career under the tutelage of Frank Reich when we just watched Ryan Tannehill do exactly this under the tutelage of Mike Vrabel? It's a better gamble than "hope Rivers can stave off decline for 2 years, then be back in the exact same position".

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Originally Posted by CanuckColt (Post 156295)
NO!!! to Bridgewater. YUCK! Worse than Jake Brisket.

Interesting emotional reaction, any data or facts to support it?

JAFF 03-16-2020 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 156230)
Huh? Considerably different situations.

And I’m not hugely down on the trade. I can see the logic and the talent, but I certainly have concerns. Namely the cost of such a high pick AND a $21 / yr contract. Surprisingly this looks like win now mode to me. This a sign it is Rivers?

Different? He comes in mid season and teams cant run up the middle and they got push up the middle on pass rush

JAFF 03-16-2020 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 156234)
It's risky for the reasons RM1369 said - we are giving up a first and paying the guy full market rates. And we don't know him as well as we know our own free agents, so that's a bit of a wild card as well, not to mention the fact that you never know how a guy will react to receiving this kind of money. So I think it's risky for a lot of reasons.

We know hes better than any other DT on the team

rm1369 03-16-2020 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 156307)
Different? He comes in mid season and teams cant run up the middle and they got push up the middle on pass rush

I guess you are right they are exactly the same. Colts are destined to win the SB this year. Suck’s that Buckner’s career will basically end in 2021 due to injury. But I guess a SB is worth it. Not sure how I could miss how similar the situations are.

JAFF 03-16-2020 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 156319)
I guess you are right they are exactly the same. Colts are destined to win the SB this year. Suck’s that Buckner’s career will basically end in 2021 due to injury. But I guess a SB is worth it. Not sure how I could miss how similar the situations are.

Or it could just be hes better than anyone in the draft, they have the money, and it fills a need. Booger made the D better. So will this guy.

Luck4Reich 03-16-2020 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 156320)
Or it could just be hes better than anyone in the draft, they have the money, and it fills a need. Booger made the D better. So will this guy.

I believe that defense gave up more rushing yards per game after the acquisition of Booger. One person made that Defense better....... his name was Bob Sanders.

rm1369 03-16-2020 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 156320)
Or it could just be hes better than anyone in the draft, they have the money, and it fills a need. Booger made the D better. So will this guy.

Jesus man, I get it you like the trade. But stop with the McFarland trade comparison - there is damn near nothing similar except they both play DT. Other than position it’s completely different players and completely different situations.

As far as making the D better, I don’t think there is anyone on the planet that would disagree with that. It’s simply a matter of degree and cost. I personally don’t hate the trade. I don’t think it was ridiculous, Buckner is a hell of a player. But there is a significant amount of risk with the trade too.

Luck4Reich 03-16-2020 09:32 PM

Not to mention the game the Jags gouged the Colts for 375 yards. Did Booger get hurt on the first play of that game or was he just bad that game. He started and didn’t record a single tackle. Most of the runs were right up the middle.

I’m glad we had Booger who did help our Defense, God knows it needed help.

But if not for Bob Sanders coming back like Superman Returns Colts don’t win that SB.

JAFF 03-16-2020 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 156325)
Jesus man, I get it you like the trade. But stop with the McFarland trade comparison - there is damn near nothing similar except they both play DT. Other than position it’s completely different players and completely different situations.

As far as making the D better, I don’t think there is anyone on the planet that would disagree with that. It’s simply a matter of degree and cost. I personally don’t hate the trade. I don’t think it was ridiculous, Buckner is a hell of a player. But there is a significant amount of risk with the trade too.

Who cares about $$$. Its not your money. Theres a lot of cap space and Irsay has an extra guitar to sell if it gets tight


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