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Racehorse 02-23-2019 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 110414)
Besides your mother?

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Jaff is Dam's brother? Huh!

omahacolt 02-23-2019 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 110428)
Jaff is Dam's brother? Huh!

I do see a striking resemblance

DrSpaceman 02-23-2019 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 110415)
I don't know what to say to this. I'm not glamorizing anything. But I'm sure if you grew up poor in China you would rise above it all to be the beacon of condescending judgment you are now. Maybe you are just happy your family isn't starving to death and you can provide them with something to eat. So yeah letting a bunch of old white dudes armed with their blue pills and little pricks poke you all day. Maybe to some people that is better than dying.



That's a given.

Just to be clear, as someone who travelled to china to adopt an orphan from there last year, has seen first hand the conditions they endure and plans to travel back to adopt another child next year, the condescension I exhibit is not towards the women involved. I understate their plight. The condescension is towards those who take advantage of these women, employ them in situations that are illegal in this country and place them in situations still below even the standard of living considered poor in our society, yet justify it by thinking that providing a minimal to modest level of improvement over their deplorable, barely livable conditions in China makes it all worthwhile and A-OK

IndyNorm 02-23-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 110390)
Asia is very different and has very different values from the west.

Not just Asia, but most of the world from the US. Much like with drugs the best way to reduce the disgusting and shady aspects of these types of things is to legalize and regulate it.

Chromeburn 02-23-2019 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 110441)
Just to be clear, as someone who travelled to china to adopt an orphan from there last year, has seen first hand the conditions they endure and plans to travel back to adopt another child next year, the condescension I exhibit is not towards the women involved. I understate their plight. The condescension is towards those who take advantage of these women, employ them in situations that are illegal in this country and place them in situations still below even the standard of living considered poor in our society, yet justify it by thinking that providing a minimal to modest level of improvement over their deplorable, barely livable conditions in China makes it all worthwhile and A-OK

Then I apologize bc I misconstrued your post. One of my oldest friends married a Chinese woman from a small village over 10 years ago. They met when he was in peace corp. He likened it to almost a purchase when they tried to get permission from her family. A dowery on steroids was the phrase he used. But he described their situation in rural China as miserable. However I see too often Americans judging women like these for their choices when they don’t have an inkling of the differences and level of opportunity between our countries.

This is really a complicated situation and I didn’t really want to get into the details. These spas are split into nationalities also, Vietnamese, Korean, Thai, Chinese. The situations can differ according to the country they are from. The females in China are still devalued even though they have a shortage of women and are having to import them now. I’m likely not saying anything you don’t know. There is really a lot more to it, some fly in with a visa through LA or San Fran then fly again somewhere around the country to work. They do this repeatedly for years. Prostitutes that have entered the life due to a variety of reasons.

Then there is another type that are smuggled in through shipping containers and forced into servitude. These people do not enter legally and the people that smuggle them in don’t want them to see the light of day or be exposed at all. These people would not be hiding in a strip mall in the middle of white urban sprawl.

Chromeburn 02-23-2019 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 110443)
Not just Asia, but most of the world from the US. Much like with drugs the best way to reduce the disgusting and shady aspects of these types of things is to legalize and regulate it.

Tax it, use proceeds to help people immersed in it. But that will never happen bc the hardest thing for America to admit is that it Isn’t perfect and might have a problem.

Indiana V2 02-23-2019 06:15 PM

Rub and tug...can't get that mental image out of my head.

JAFF 02-23-2019 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 110433)
I do see a striking resemblance

You resemble the south end of a horse headed north

JAFF 02-23-2019 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 110441)
Just to be clear, as someone who travelled to china to adopt an orphan from there last year, has seen first hand the conditions they endure and plans to travel back to adopt another child next year, the condescension I exhibit is not towards the women involved. I understate their plight. The condescension is towards those who take advantage of these women, employ them in situations that are illegal in this country and place them in situations still below even the standard of living considered poor in our society, yet justify it by thinking that providing a minimal to modest level of improvement over their deplorable, barely livable conditions in China makes it all worthwhile and A-OK

God bless you and your family.

Luck4Reich 02-23-2019 06:21 PM

I'm sure his wife has always known him as a cheater. She probably runs and hides from his crooked yellow teeth ass. Why does a billionaire have crooked yellow teeth??


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