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Maniac 12-31-2018 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 102343)
I am not arguing that it was not a penalty or whether he should have done it.

But your pictures suck and don't really prove what you think.

I cut the guys some slack on these things, they happen once in awhile. We get all over them to be aggressive and play through the whistle and then also jump all over them when they make plays like this on the sideline that are closer than what you are saying and what your pictures show. They are trying to make a split second decision on hitting or holding up on someone going out of bounds.

Your picture doesn't show where the ball carrier was when he started the move for the tackle. Still pictures like this are not that valuable, especially from this angle.

The video shows the same thing as the pictures. Odum takes an angle to tackle the guy out of bounds instead of at the sideline. His body is squared up to go at the guy out of bounds and that's exactly what he did. It was a horrible choice of a tackling angle. It's like he didn't know where he was on the field.

Pez 12-31-2018 11:24 AM

I'm all for cutting some slack too, but in the first pic, the ball carrier is fully OOB, while Odum is 1.5 yards away diving for a tackle that would intercept the ball carrier 1.5 yards OOB. Just a crappy, unnecessary and unprofessional mistake, one that I would expect to be called 100% of the time.

Yes, officiating on this game was ridiculously tight, probably setting a record for the most obscure illegal shift calls in the last 10 years, but this hit was pretty cut and dried.

It was a late hit out of bounds, and the kind of shit that might not cost us a game against the Titans, but a hell of a lot more likely to cost us a game against the Texans or the Patriots.

DrSpaceman 12-31-2018 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 102345)
I'm all for cutting some slack too, but in the first pic, the ball carrier is fully OOB, while Odum is 1.5 yards away diving for a tackle that would intercept the ball carrier 1.5 yards OOB. Just a crappy, unnecessary and unprofessional mistake, one that I would expect to be called 100% of the time.

Yes, officiating on this game was ridiculously tight, probably setting a record for the most obscure illegal shift calls in the last 10 years, but this hit was pretty cut and dried.

It was a late hit out of bounds, and the kind of shit that might not cost us a game against the Titans, but a hell of a lot more likely to cost us a game against the Texans or the Patriots.

Not arguing it should not be a penalty or that he shouldn't do it, it was dumb

I am arguing it was not unprofessional or that he had any negligent intent or harmful intent on the play.

This was not TJ green type of piling jumping we saw for far too long. Was a dumb lapse in judgement he needs to correct.

Maniac 12-31-2018 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 102362)
Not arguing it should not be a penalty or that he shouldn't do it, it was dumb

I am arguing it was not unprofessional or that he had any negligent intent or harmful intent on the play.

This was not TJ green type of piling jumping we saw for far too long. Was a dumb lapse in judgement he needs to correct.

I don't remember anyone saying he had harmful intent, so who are you arguing that against? I said it was a fucking stupid play, which it was.

DrSpaceman 12-31-2018 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 102363)
I don't remember anyone saying he had harmful intent, so who are you arguing that against? I said it was a fucking stupid play, which it was.

It was called "crappy, unprofessional and unnecessary". I guess specifically the "unprofessional" is what I would disagree with.

Also, there were far worse mistakes than this one by the Colts all game, which have been pointed out. This is pretty far down on my list of game mistakes that concern me. Two TDs were called back on penalties and two completely stupid turnovers basically cost the team 10-14 points.

VeveJones007 12-31-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts fan from BK (Post 102303)
Don’t forget about Deon Cain

I'm not. I would just rather slot him in at WR4/WR5. Wouldn't you?

Racehorse 12-31-2018 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 102278)
Mack wasn't inconsistent. Just made a bad mistake. He made some good, hard runs, and he had one or two others called back due to penalties.

You're absolutely right about Geathers. I think that hurt the defense quite a bit with him out and Odumbass in there, who was absolutely AWFUL. He should not have been on the field. Horrible.

I thought he was very consistent. I told my son that he was about to rip off a long run, and about five minutes later, he goes for about 20. You could just sense that it was a good day for him.

Racehorse 12-31-2018 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 102302)
One missed call that pissed me off was early in the 4th on that Titans WR screen. Moore read it add could’ve had a pick 6 but the off receiver was shoving him as the ball was in the air. It was pretty egregious especially after all the ticky tack penalties on Glowinski.

Yep. That was a clear OPI that did not get called.

Racehorse 12-31-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 102324)
The pass was already defended. All Odum did was ensure the Colts defender had no chance to pick it off.

I don't like Odum much, but he had his back to the other two players, so he may have not known that Desir had a play on it.

omahacolt 12-31-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 102324)
The pass was already defended. All Odum did was ensure the Colts defender had no chance to pick it off.

Odum caught the pass. Desir knocked it out of his hands. You are being ridiculous


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