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Butter 04-03-2023 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262982)
They play a similar style, whether you take Lamar or Richardson you're committing to building the same style of offense, so why not take both?

Because it would be stupid when that pick could be a stud player that helps the team win the next 4 years, rather than a QB with a high bust potential.

Dam8610 04-03-2023 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 262983)
Because it would be stupid when that pick could be a stud player that helps the team win the next 4 years, rather than a QB with a high bust potential.

Well they're not trading to 1, at least they've made no indication of doing so as of yet, so they've already committed to a QB with high bust potential unless they go with Anderson or Carter. But doing that without Lamar is a huge risk.

Oldcolt 04-03-2023 08:55 AM

Dam, you may be the only person on the planet that thinks drafting Richardson and then giving up a kings ransom in picks and money to Lamar is a sensible idea.

Dam8610 04-03-2023 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 262990)
Dam, you may be the only person on the planet that thinks drafting Richardson and then giving up a kings ransom in picks and money to Lamar is a sensible idea.

Even if you gave up 2 1s (which is something that can be negotiated), if they're 1s that come after signing Lamar, you can reasonably assume those picks will be in the 20s and therefore much less valuable than, for example, the 4th overall pick this year. That's not even taking into consideration that a deal can be negotiated outside of the franchise tag rules.

What bringing in both Lamar and Richardson does is create a very long contention window. Irsay keeps talking about wanting to win 2 Super Bowls in the next decade, the best way to have a shot at that is to completely shore up the QB position.

JAFF 04-03-2023 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262984)
Well they're not trading to 1, at least they've made no indication of doing so as of yet, so they've already committed to a QB with high bust potential unless they go with Anderson or Carter. But doing that without Lamar is a huge risk.

No. Hell no

Colts And Orioles 04-03-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 262990)



Dam, you may be the only person on the planet that thinks drafting Richardson and then giving up a kings ransom in picks and money to Lamar is a sensible idea.




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Believe it or not, I have seen crazier things happen (but please don't ask me to cite them.)

The Colts' offensive line was one of the best in the NFL in 2020, still pretty solid in 2021, and one of the worst in the NFL in 2022 ...... but they did show signs of modest improvement late in the 2022 season when Bernhard Raimann was inserted as a starter and Matt Pryor was benched.

If the Colts can somehow get the offensive line back to its 2020 form (and I concede, that would be a VERY BIG "If"), then Lamar Jackson playing well behind it and leading the Colts to several playoff appearances in 2023 and beyond wouldn't be so far-fetched ....... as disastrous as the 2022 season was overall, the Colts still beat the Chiefs and barely lost to the Eagles by one point when they rallied in the final seconds of the 4th quarter. Somewhere inside of what was the mess of a 2022 season is a team capable of holding its own against the 2 teams that made it to the Super Bowl.

And if all of that came to fruition while Richardson was on the bench behind Lamar for 2 or 3 seasons, Dam wouldn't look so crazy after all ....... however, the fact that Jim Irsay made it pretty clear that the Colts probably wouldn't be willing to ante-up for Jackson in the first place makes all of that moot.

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IndyNorm 04-03-2023 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 262990)
Dam, you may be the only person on the planet that thinks drafting Richardson and then giving up a kings ransom in picks and money to Lamar is a sensible idea.

I think Dam's obsession with Stroud and his butt hurt over Ballard not trading up to #1 overall has finally pushed his head over the ledge.

IndyNorm 04-03-2023 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 262984)
Well they're not trading to 1, at least they've made no indication of doing so as of yet, so they've already committed to a QB with high bust potential unless they go with Anderson or Carter. But doing that without Lamar is a huge risk.

No way should we draft Carter at #4 overall. Dude's a complete dumpster fire.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...uggles-pro-day

Dam8610 04-03-2023 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 263006)
No. Hell no

No to what? This makes no sense in context of the post you quoted.

smitty46953 04-03-2023 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 263021)
No to what? This makes no sense in context of the post you quoted.

Probably referring to Carter, my guess?


They said on NFL Network Radio today that Jalen Carter has told teams outside of the top 10 in draft order, that he will not go for top 30 visits.

This kid just keeps digging a hole for himself? Seems to be one every year who shoots themselves in the foot.

As for Carter, I don't want him. Diva? Locker room cancer? Don't take that gamble !!! :cool:


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