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Originally Posted by Big Smooth (Post 160872)

I just wrote a huge long thing about my stance on Luck and when I clicked to send it I was logged out and I lost it all. Damn I had some good stuff in there now im pissed.

That happens to me all the goddamn time.

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Originally Posted by Big Smooth (Post 160872)

I just wrote a huge long thing about my stance on Luck and when I clicked to send it I was logged out and I lost it all. Damn I had some good stuff in there now im pissed.

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 160878)

That happens to me all the goddamn time.

Maybe it depends on what device + browser + settings you are using, but whenever that happens to me - I don't lose the post.

Once you are prompted to log in - go ahead and log in.

Then hit the back button on your browser and I have always been able to recover the post.

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 160835)

I think we are probably on the same page, its hard to have a complicated conversation this way. Where we seem to disagree is I would rather have a star at GM than any one player. Over time good administrations win.

The one time our star GM has actually made the playoffs was with a franchise QB.

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Originally Posted by Big Smooth (Post 160872)

I just wrote a huge long thing about my stance on Luck and when I clicked to send it I was logged out and I lost it all. Damn I had some good stuff in there now im pissed.

Do it again, quitter LOL :eek:

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 160895)

The one time our star GM has actually made the playoffs was with a franchise QB.

Its been four years and my goal isn't playoffs. You and I are on completely different pages. You believe only one Super Bowl in 19 years doesn't prove my point. For me that is the whole point, winning Super Bowls. I am over loving making the playoffs because one outstanding player pulls us there only to inevitably getting our asses handed to us by a more rounded team. I agree, however, that one Super Bowl is better than a lifetime of mediocre play. I don't believe those are the options. Multiple Super Bowls are possible without a super qb, just look at New England with the POS they have had a qb. Nice to argue over football with you. Stay safe.

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 160913)

I can speak for myself, you don’t need to tell me what I believe. Tom Brady is a franchise QB. Is he the goat? No. But he is a franchise QB.

We won only one Super Bowl, meanwhile the pats won 6 with a franchise QB. KC won one. Denver went to two, won one in a fraction of the time with the same QB. Seattle went to three and won one. Pittsburgh won two with a franchise QB.

Is a super bowl win possible without one? Sure. But don’t expect some dynasty. Has there been a dynasty in the last 30 years that did not have a franchise QB?

You seem to have concluded that since we only won one super bowl then having a franchise QB is not important. But it is those QBs that got us to the opportunities. The point is you have to build a team around those QBs and not to squander your opportunities. How many one and dones did they have? Came out flat? How many opportunities were lost with Luck?

A franchise QB can’t get it done by himself, but it is much easier to win one with one than it is without one.