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ZiaColt 04-27-2018 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 65010)
FWIW, Matt Miller has the same grade on Guice, Jefferson, Sutton, and Hubbard. He has Jackson, Oliver, and Landry slightly ahead of them. Of course, scheme-fit could make the Colts value them differently.

until it happens otherwise, I'm assuming Cleveland or the Giants take Landry before #36 (sigh)

a RB like Walton may still be around at #67, FWIW. Not personally that high on Sutton, but that's just me.

I guess I actually missspoke (mistyped?) earlier: there IS another team with 2 second rounders. What if Colts make their pick at #36 and then Ballard's phone rings and on the other end is....Darth Belichick and he offers Ballard #43 and #63 for #37? (maybe he really likes Mason Rudolph)

VeveJones007 04-27-2018 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ZiaColt (Post 65020)
until it happens otherwise, I'm assuming Cleveland or the Giants take Landry before #36 (sigh)

a RB like Walton may still be around at #67, FWIW. Not personally that high on Sutton, but that's just me.

I guess I actually missspoke (mistyped?) earlier: there IS another team with 2 second rounders. What if Colts make their pick at #36 and then Ballard's phone rings and on the other end is....Darth Belichick and he offers Ballard #43 and #63 for #37? (maybe he really likes Mason Rudolph)

Maybe Ballard can swing a deal with Dorsey to move up to #33 with #36 and a 5th? Equal on the value chart if that means anything.

I would consider that move with NE, but I think that's an overpay on their part. I think they're more likely to move up only a couple of spots to jump Miami.

ZiaColt 04-27-2018 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 65021)
Maybe Ballard can swing a deal with Dorsey to move up to #33 with #36 and a 5th? Equal on the value chart if that means anything.

I would consider that move with NE, but I think that's an overpay on their part. I think they're more likely to move up only a couple of spots to jump Miami.

it's overpay on the draft chart, but he's a QB and all the "smart" guys tell me NE's looking for a QB in this draft. But maybe Belichick figures he can get some guy like Falk or Lauletta later and turn him into Brady 2.0--he seems to think he made Brady 1.0 the player he is today.

which apparently doesn't sit well with Brady himself...or Gronk, or the rest of that team

Dam8610 04-27-2018 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ZiaColt (Post 65020)
until it happens otherwise, I'm assuming Cleveland or the Giants take Landry before #36 (sigh)

a RB like Walton may still be around at #67, FWIW. Not personally that high on Sutton, but that's just me.

I guess I actually missspoke (mistyped?) earlier: there IS another team with 2 second rounders. What if Colts make their pick at #36 and then Ballard's phone rings and on the other end is....Darth Belichick and he offers Ballard #43 and #63 for #37? (maybe he really likes Mason Rudolph)

My hope is the Giants take Will Hernandez. Cleveland has no need for Landry, and clearly they like Ogbah or they'd've taken Chubb. Cleveland also needs a LT, so hopefully they'll go to that route. All the RBs worth taking at 36 and 37 are gone, so hopefully Landry and Green will make it to 36 and not 38.

VeveJones007 04-27-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 65028)
My hope is the Giants take Will Hernandez. Cleveland has no need for Landry, and clearly they like Ogbah or they'd've taken Chubb. Cleveland also needs a LT, so hopefully they'll go to that route. All the RBs worth taking at 36 and 37 are gone, so hopefully Landry and Green will make it to 36 and not 38.

I'm hoping for something like:

33-Williams
34-Hernandez
35-Guice

That leaves Ballard with his choice of defenders.

ZiaColt 04-27-2018 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 65028)
My hope is the Giants take Will Hernandez. Cleveland has no need for Landry, and clearly they like Ogbah or they'd've taken Chubb. Cleveland also needs a LT, so hopefully they'll go to that route. All the RBs worth taking at 36 and 37 are gone, so hopefully Landry and Green will make it to 36 and not 38.

Landry and a CB would be nice, with maybe a LB like Jefferson if he drops to #49-or another OL like O'Neill or maybe B. Smith if they're there at #49.

I personally still think the Colts can get a good WR and/or RB later on at #67 or possibly even #104.

Dam8610 04-27-2018 03:42 PM

Why does it seem like I'm the only one here that likes Rasheem Green? If they're importing a scheme similar to Dallas, he's a perfect fit for it, he was productive for USC in his age 20 season, and I've read where several scouts thought he had a chance to go Top 5 in 2019 had he stayed in school. He seems like exactly the type of player the Colts should be targeting.

Chromeburn 04-27-2018 03:44 PM

Buffalo GM on the radio. Said they had a deal with Denver in place but Chubb fell so they cancelled. He said they tried with Indy but Ballard and co was honed in on Nelson. So they moved to Tampa.

Dam8610 04-27-2018 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 65039)
I'm hoping for something like:

33-Williams
34-Hernandez
35-Guice

That leaves Ballard with his choice of defenders.

That would be the perfect start to round 2. No temptation to do anything stupid, and 2 excellent DE prospects sitting there waiting for their names to be called.

smitty46953 04-27-2018 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 65045)
Why does it seem like I'm the only one here that likes Rasheem Green? If they're importing a scheme similar to Dallas, he's a perfect fit for it, he was productive for USC in his age 20 season, and I've read where several scouts thought he had a chance to go Top 5 in 2019 had he stayed in school. He seems like exactly the type of player the Colts should be targeting.

Nothing wrong with Green, I would be good with him :cool:


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