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Wyatt 03-31-2017 02:50 PM
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Pro Day March 30: Colts GM on the Houston campus...heach coach at Boise State pro day...more on Basham http://draftanalyst.com/pro-day-march-30 …

Ballard meets with Houston OLB Tyus Bowser and CB Brandon Wilson

VeveJones007 03-31-2017 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 8536)
I agree. I was solidly in the Barnett camp until I watched some tape on Harris. He has decent spin move, a good rip move and uses the bull rush at times.
Yep, and watch his eyes when he rushes the passer. He does a great job identifying where the QB is going to move in the pocket and then using whatever move will help him get there.

VeveJones007 03-31-2017 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 8537)
@DraftAnalyst1
Pro Day March 30: Colts GM on the Houston campus...heach coach at Boise State pro day...more on Basham http://draftanalyst.com/pro-day-march-30 …

Ballard meets with Houston OLB Tyus Bowser and CB Brandon Wilson
It was a few months ago, but Matt Miller had Wilson to the Colts at 2.14. He had Bowser around pick #100 (3rd round comp), but has said that his stock is definitely going up.

Edit: It was actually CB Howard Wilson he had to the Colts. Not sure if Draft Analyst is confusing the two. But I can see why the Colts would have interest in Brandon Wilson too.

natagu23 03-31-2017 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 8518)
Derek Barnett runs an unofficial 4.89 40 time at his Pro Day.

He supposedly has a strained hamstring right now and is "toughing it out", but that's a pretty bad time and a pretty common excuse and mounts concerns upon a guy whose biggest concern is his conditioning.

I'm still not opposed to bringing in a guy that's been that productive at rushing the passer in the SEC and I'd be hard-pressed to pass on him in the 1st round, but more and more, I like the idea of going ILB in the 1st round (Foster/Davis/Cunningham/Reddick) and then edge rusher in the 2nd (Barnett/Williams/Lawson/Harris).

That seems feasible to me, I think.
The 40 time doesnt really concern me as long as its not 5.0 or >.

Barnett's lack of explosiveness is more of a concern.

You can lack speed, but you have to be able to fire off the ball and have a good first step.

He strikes me as a low ceiling, decent floor kinda guy who could potentially flop under poor coaching, and guess what we have plenty of?

natagu23 03-31-2017 04:17 PM
In contrast to Barnett, Hasson Reddick is one more explosive players in the draft.

Dam8610 03-31-2017 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 8518)
Derek Barnett runs an unofficial 4.89 40 time at his Pro Day.

He supposedly has a strained hamstring right now and is "toughing it out", but that's a pretty bad time and a pretty common excuse and mounts concerns upon a guy whose biggest concern is his conditioning.

I'm still not opposed to bringing in a guy that's been that productive at rushing the passer in the SEC and I'd be hard-pressed to pass on him in the 1st round, but more and more, I like the idea of going ILB in the 1st round (Foster/Davis/Cunningham/Reddick) and then edge rusher in the 2nd (Barnett/Williams/Lawson/Harris).

That seems feasible to me, I think.
If the Colts take Reddick, it won't be to play ILB.

VeveJones007 03-31-2017 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 8554)
If the Colts take Reddick, it won't be to play ILB.
100% agree with this. I think way too much is being made out of Reddick's size (237 lbs). Guys like Clay Matthews and Robert Mathis certainly proved to have great careers on the EDGE when "undersized."

I don't think he'll be there, though. I'd be shocked if he isn't in the top 10 after his last three months.

njcoltfan 03-31-2017 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 8489)
And Peppers is that much faster than Clayton.... But I think we are good at Safety. No need to mess around there
Imagine if you will, how much better the Colts would be if they drafted Collins instead of the midget Dorrsett!!

Butter 03-31-2017 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 8563)
Imagine if you will, how much better the Colts would be if they drafted Collins instead of the midget Dorrsett!!
Certainly better, but not enough to have made much difference.

natagu23 03-31-2017 08:33 PM
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Imagine if you will, how much better the Colts would be if they drafted Collins instead of the midget Dorrsett!!
Part of the problem is that we're not utilizing Dorsett nearly enough or the way he is supposed to used.

You pair Dorsett with Rodgers or Brady..... 800+ yard season and other accomplishments are practically a given.


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