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rcubed 02-06-2018 11:02 PM

Irsay must be fuming.

daedge 02-06-2018 11:06 PM

Via Dianna Russini - "Spoke with several members of what was supposed to be McDaniels’ Indy coaching staff. They have not heard from Josh McDaniels regarding the change of heart. Just as blindsided as the rest of us." #Colts

Scum of the earth. We've dodged a bullet.

nate505 02-06-2018 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by daedge (Post 54838)
Via Dianna Russini - "Spoke with several members of what was supposed to be McDaniels’ Indy coaching staff. They have not heard from Josh McDaniels regarding the change of heart. Just as blindsided as the rest of us." #Colts

Scum of the earth. We've dodged a bullet.

No kidding. If the NFL coaching circle is a tight knit community, he should become a pariah in it.

Gimmick 02-06-2018 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 54831)
Nice pussy ass official statement by the Colts in this mess too. Grow a fucking sack and call out McDouchefuck.

Nope, they did the right thing.

omahacolt 02-06-2018 11:14 PM

I feel bad for alr

nate505 02-06-2018 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gimmick (Post 54841)
Nope, they did the right thing.

I disagree. They look like goobers who got hoodwinked and just took it on the chin.

Brylok 02-06-2018 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 54837)
Irsay must be fuming.

If I was Irsay, I would not allow McDaniels into the building for the combine.

Gimmick 02-06-2018 11:31 PM

Fuck that, I would call up some friends and have him detained for questioning for 10 hours as soon as he gets off the plane.

falloutboy14 02-06-2018 11:35 PM

Pure speculation, but wonder if Ballard had other interviews occur. The only reason we know about McDaniels is because of rumor. Got to trust him to have a plan B in progress considering we're 3-4 weeks past the season.

DrSpaceman 02-06-2018 11:37 PM

Jim Bob Cooter is another person I would consider.

VeveJones007 02-06-2018 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by daedge (Post 54838)
Via Dianna Russini - "Spoke with several members of what was supposed to be McDaniels’ Indy coaching staff. They have not heard from Josh McDaniels regarding the change of heart. Just as blindsided as the rest of us." #Colts

Scum of the earth. We've dodged a bullet.

Screw everything else. This right here tells you the makeup of the man.

As someone else said, the Colts dodged a bullet. You can’t have a snake as the leader of your football team. The Colts will be better off because of this decision.

Spike 02-07-2018 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 54849)
Screw everything else. This right here tells you the makeup of the man.

As someone else said, the Colts dodged a bullet. You can’t have a snake as the leader of your football team. The Colts will be better off because of this decision.

Yep, he was a piece of shit in Denver, and nothing has changed. Should have never considered this cock sucker.

Spike 02-07-2018 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 54752)
What a complete piece of shit.

First of all, Kraft knew that McDaniels was going to Indy. If he wanted to give him a big raise and talk him into staying, he could have done so LONG before now. To wait until after he accepts another job is fucking low, and it fucked over a bunch of assistants that would have been coming to Indy to work under him.

Fucking garbage piece of shit.

The Patriots from top to bottom are the most classless organization in the NFL. Cheating, lying, backstabbing mother fuckers.

Indiana V2 02-07-2018 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 54826)
Yup. I think this team is genuinely fucked. At this point, the way the football gods are shitting on 'em, I'm expecting a Luck surgery announcement next week.

That is actually being talked about now.

daedge 02-07-2018 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Indiana V2 (Post 54859)
That is actually being talked about now.

Yep, fresh concerns from a number of doctors, who believe Luck needs to go back under the knife.

rcubed 02-07-2018 01:00 AM

I checked out patriotsplanet to see what kind of party they were throwing. as expected they are happy we got shit on. however it was interesting that a lot of them were not excited that mcd seems to be the HC in waiting. some were also saying it was pretty dick move to make.

Indiana V2 02-07-2018 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by daedge (Post 54860)
Yep, fresh concerns from a number of doctors, who believe Luck needs to go back under the knife.

And may miss all next season, too.

VeveJones007 02-07-2018 01:04 AM

https://www.indystar.com/videos/spor...ion/110177336/

There’s definitely some Colts spin embedded in the message, but there are a few interesting nuggets from Holder here:

-Colts were irate at McDaniels. They didn’t care about the why. They stopped listening once McDaniels said he was backing out.
-Colts don’t think the assistant coaches hired will be an issue. Sounds like they’re even willing to eat the contracts if they are an impediment to the new head coach.

rcubed 02-07-2018 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by daedge (Post 54860)
Yep, fresh concerns from a number of doctors, who believe Luck needs to go back under the knife.

so if luck needs more surgery, possibly missing the season and who really knows what the future holds, do we grab a QB at 3?

Spike 02-07-2018 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by daedge (Post 54860)
Yep, fresh concerns from a number of doctors, who believe Luck needs to go back under the knife.

Where is this being reported?

IndyNorm 02-07-2018 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 54784)
I don't care what the rule is, there is no way I would pay those assistants a dime and I would tear up their contracts.

If they sue over it, great, I drag the NFL, Kraft, McDaniels and every last one of those pieces of shit into court over it as well.

And Ballard better get a new damn agent if he and McDaniels have the same one now

I disagree. It's not their fault McDaniels is a complete piece of shit and fucked them over. The right thing to do is give them first interviews with the new head coach and see if they're a good fit. If not then pay them their agreed upon salary for the first year and let them walk (and yes maybe try to legally claim that from those shitheads Kraft and MdDickhead).

IndyNorm 02-07-2018 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by daedge (Post 54860)
Yep, fresh concerns from a number of doctors, who believe Luck needs to go back under the knife.

Hate to say it, but Luck having another surgery and/or being done is the only thing that makes sense as to why this happened. Even if Belicheat retires tomorrow Brady will only be there 1-2 more years and there's no suitable replacement in place. Plus McDickface pretty much committed NFL HC suicide outside of NE by doing this.

Of course trading Jay Cutler for Kyle Orton and moving up and drafting Tim Tebow in the 1st round makes no sense, so maybe McDickface is just incompetent outside of the Cheats organization.

ChoppedWood 02-07-2018 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 54868)
Where is this being reported?

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2018/...ional-surgery/

I hear there are also some doctors who believe that smoking can cause cancer so take this for what it is worth....

Jim Irsay looks like a punk right now.

By the end of the day he should have Frank Reich at the podium announcing him as the new HC and immediately thereafter Jim should openly state that it is now this team's sole objective to get into the playoffs next year, not to win a SB, but just to play NE and attempt to break the legs of as many players as possible starting with that punk ass #12. The NFL needs some good ol' out in the open hatred and if we don't use this as a means to bring that back, then fuck Jim and his bags of opiates.

Grow a pair MF'er!

njcoltfan 02-07-2018 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 54779)
Wow, what a dick move.

A few questions-why would the McDaniels wait until the colts announced it before backing out? What other reason could there be than to screw them over as much as possible?

Also, it’s beyond obvious he’s been promised the pats job when Belicheat retires, how is that not ignoring the Rooney rule?

I don’t think we’ve heard the last of this.

This is the biggest dick move anyone’s made since....well, since Belicheat screwed over the Jets.

Exactly!!! He learned from the 2 biggest assholes to ever walk this earth, Kraft and Belichick!!

albany ed 02-07-2018 07:32 AM

I hope he is heir apparent to BB. But, I have a sinking feeling that once he agreed to contract, he was given the bad news about Luck's condition and then he backed out. I hope I'm wrong and the reason is the former, but it makes more sense if he got full disclosure on Luck's condition once the SB was over.

DrSpaceman 02-07-2018 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 54886)
I hope he is heir apparent to BB. But, I have a sinking feeling that once he agreed to contract, he was given the bad news about Luck's condition and then he backed out. I hope I'm wrong and the reason is the former, but it makes more sense if he got full disclosure on Luck's condition once the SB was over.

that makes no sense at all. There is no way the Colts would basically lie to him about Luck and do all this, then tell him at the last minute. That would be absolutely stupid for an organization

I am sure Luck's status was the very first thing discussed with pretty much every single coach they interviewed.

HoosierinFL 02-07-2018 09:11 AM

It's not Luck guys, quit being so dramatic. It says right in the original reports, this is because of Kraft, obv making an offer McDick couldn't refuse, just so he could fuck over the Colts. Fuck that entire organization. But it's not Luck.

Pez 02-07-2018 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 54886)
I hope he is heir apparent to BB. But, I have a sinking feeling that once he agreed to contract, he was given the bad news about Luck's condition and then he backed out. I hope I'm wrong and the reason is the former, but it makes more sense if he got full disclosure on Luck's condition once the SB was over.

In terms of conspiracy theories, this makes less sense that Kraft being vindictive about deflategate.

What makes the most sense to me is that McDaniels backed out due to a general lack of integrity, and a general surplus of douchebaggery.

I was pretty high on the McDaniels hire, but now I think we actually dodged a bullet.

Mr. Session 02-07-2018 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 54893)
In terms of conspiracy theories, this makes less sense that Kraft being vindictive about deflategate.

What makes the most sense to me is that McDaniels backed out due to a general lack of integrity, and a general surplus of douchebaggery.

I was pretty high on the McDaniels hire, but now I think we actually dodged a bullet.

I was high on it too. I've wanted McDaniels for two years now.

No guarantee he didn't pull some bullshit like this in 2-3 years anyway once Belichick stepped down. I agree, in the long run we probably dodged a bullet.

rcubed 02-07-2018 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 54893)
In terms of conspiracy theories, this makes less sense that Kraft being vindictive about deflategate.

What makes the most sense to me is that McDaniels backed out due to a general lack of integrity, and a general surplus of douchebaggery.

I was pretty high on the McDaniels hire, but now I think we actually dodged a bullet.

oh I think kraft is totally vindictive about deflategate, but I think its more like icing on the cake. he decided he wanted mcliar back and it was just sweeter that he screwed us in the process. They are all pricks with no integrity.

I hope bill retires soon and brady with him and mcliar is left with an organization that circles the drain.

1965southpaw 02-07-2018 09:51 AM

Polian on Golic and Wingo......McDouche backing out after he's agreed to contract terms will be viewed as negatively by future potential employers as his negative track record at Denver....doesn't mean he won't be hired somewhere else but it certainly diminishes his credibility significantly. He put this squarely on McDouche....says Colts did everything right......and he had multiple calls last night with Colts insiders....unlike Florio his opinion is data based not speculation. I agree we dodged a bullet. Fuck McDouche and the entire group of chowda loving cheaters. Karma......she's a bitch and she will not forget this.

testcase448 02-07-2018 09:56 AM

I'm glad McDouche isn't soiling Indiana with his presence.
I'd rather never win another game than have that sumbitch here.
Fuck all of New England and everybody tainted with it's stench

albany ed 02-07-2018 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 54896)
oh I think kraft is totally vindictive about deflategate, but I think its more like icing on the cake. he decided he wanted mcliar back and it was just sweeter that he screwed us in the process. They are all pricks with no integrity.

I hope bill retires soon and brady with him and mcliar is left with an organization that circles the drain.

I hope so too. BB is the real genius. Take a look at this chart:


PPG RANK for McDaniels
2006-08 NE OC 1st
2009-10 DEN HC 17th
2011 STL OC 32nd
2012-17 NE OC 1st

It seems like the only time he was an Offensive genius is when he was with NE under BB.

HoosierinFL 02-07-2018 10:52 AM

I hope Mcdaniel's career sinks like a fucking stone after this, tbh.
After Denver people had doubts about his integrity, his ability to handle the job and manage a team. Then there was that story floating around about how much he had learned from it, hinting that the second time around would be much different, and better. But now that he's done this, no one is going to believe it. They're going to think they'll be getting the same guy that fucked up in Denver.

Plus nobody wants to take the risk of offering him a position and then having this happen again.

FatDT 02-07-2018 11:03 AM

The part where he fucked over the assistants and their families, and tried to say he wanted stability for his own family, is the worst part. If this is the kind of turd he still is then I'm annoyed we wasted weeks on him, but glad we avoided ever being associated with him. Vile swine.

For me Ballard's judgement takes a hit with this, too. Don't like saying it. He got played. Not good to look like a sucker and it's hard to argue against. It's one thing for fans to buy into the McPigfucker hype. A big part of it for me though was trusting Ballard to make a good decision. I'm disappointed that Ballard didn't see through this human piece of shit.

testcase448 02-07-2018 11:17 AM

I hope his family gets all the benefits of living in the sewer that's Boston.
I hope he likes the higher taxes, higher crime rate, shitty weather.

VeveJones007 02-07-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 54919)
The part where he fucked over the assistants and their families, and tried to say he wanted stability for his own family, is the worst part. If this is the kind of turd he still is then I'm annoyed we wasted weeks on him, but glad we avoided ever being associated with him. Vile swine.

For me Ballard's judgement takes a hit with this, too. Don't like saying it. He got played. Not good to look like a sucker and it's hard to argue against. It's one thing for fans to buy into the McPigfucker hype. A big part of it for me though was trusting Ballard to make a good decision. I'm disappointed that Ballard didn't see through this human piece of shit.

Yep, this. A dignified leader does not ask people to follow him, then change course.

VeveJones007 02-07-2018 11:55 AM

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Garafolo reported on NFL Network's Good Morning Football that even McDaniels' agent, Bob LaMonte, told the OC that he's making perhaps the biggest professional mistake of his career by backing out of this Colts job at this point, according to sources informed of the talks between McDaniels and his agent.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...w-articleshare

At least his agent understood enough to caution against him backing out. If you're the agent, you also need to give him an ultimatum in that situation. You can't be associated with a coach who doesn't follow through. It makes you look horrible as an agent. Why would teams trust you in negotiations moving forward?

natagu23 02-07-2018 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 54919)
The part where he fucked over the assistants and their families, and tried to say he wanted stability for his own family, is the worst part. If this is the kind of turd he still is then I'm annoyed we wasted weeks on him, but glad we avoided ever being associated with him. Vile swine.

For me Ballard's judgement takes a hit with this, too. Don't like saying it. He got played. Not good to look like a sucker and it's hard to argue against. It's one thing for fans to buy into the McPigfucker hype. A big part of it for me though was trusting Ballard to make a good decision. I'm disappointed that Ballard didn't see through this human piece of shit.

I'm sorry. I can't blame Ballard for this.

McDaniels is just a backstabbing son of a bitch.

Fuck Robert Kraft.

Phelanka7 02-07-2018 12:28 PM

I hope he gets cancer in his dick.


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