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Oldcolt 06-14-2023 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 267887)
Misplaced? Isn't the whole point of stopping athletes from betting on games to protect the integrity of the game? What's the difference to the integrity of the game if someone cheats to win money for themselves or cheats to win championships for themselves? Is the integrity of the game not ruined in both scenarios?

Agreed that there should have been punishment, but for the whole NE organization. Brady didn't win 7 championships because of a deflated ball, Brady was a damn good QB. Wanting to erase that history and banning them for life is a huge overreaction and has the taste of sour grapes from a bunch of small town losers. That isn't the Colts.

Racehorse 06-14-2023 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 267904)
Agreed that there should have been punishment, but for the whole NE organization. Brady didn't win 7 championships because of a deflated ball, Brady was a damn good QB. Wanting to erase that history and banning them for life is a huge overreaction and has the taste of sour grapes from a bunch of small town losers. That isn't the Colts.

I don't think he is calling to erase history, but the cheating should have been dealt with firmly at the time, because the results of the cheating have marred the league, and its integrity.

Oldcolt 06-14-2023 10:57 AM

I am quoting from Damn now:

So remove Brady and Belicheat from the record books and ban them for life,

Is on page 7 of this and is a post you liked Racehorse

Racehorse 06-14-2023 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 267909)
I am quoting from Damn now:

So remove Brady and Belicheat from the record books and ban them for life,

Is on page 7 of this and is a post you liked Racehorse

OK. Dam is an idiot. I was projecting my opinion on him.

Oldcolt 06-14-2023 11:45 AM

And to be clear I do agree completely with your sentiment Racehorse

Colts And Orioles 06-14-2023 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 267835)




Of course, the NFL and Goodell are saying that Tommy Cheater is a role model for everyone to follow. The Cheater recorded a video that will be shown to all players to educate themselves about gambling.


https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...mbling-policy/



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Really ??? Of all of the people that the NFL could have asked for help on this subject, they chose Tom Brady, who along with Bill Belichick was caught red-handed several times for spying on other teams' practices, and then again later on for deflating footballs ???


This is the quint-essential example of the blind leading the blind ...... l "Listen guys, cheating repeatedly isn't so bad, but please, please, PLEASE, by any means necessary, don't gamble on football games !!!"



It reminds of of when Bob Goldthwaite slammed Bruce Willis for doing a Seagram's Wine Coolers commercial, and then turning around and also doing a "Don't Take Drugs" commercial ...... l "Don't take drugs ...... but if you do take drugs, wash them down with some wine coolers."

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IndyNorm 06-14-2023 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 267904)
Agreed that there should have been punishment, but for the whole NE organization. Brady didn't win 7 championships because of a deflated ball, Brady was a damn good QB. Wanting to erase that history and banning them for life is a huge overreaction and has the taste of sour grapes from a bunch of small town losers. That isn't the Colts.

No one's saying that Brady wasn't a damn good QB, but the deflated balls definitely helped him out (why would he have done it if it didn't). And Spygate absolutely helped the Cheats win Superbowl titles. What the league should have done back in '07 was suspended Belicheat for a year and informed the Cheats that if they were caught illegally video taping their opponents again then Belicheat would receive a lifetime ban and they would strip them of their 3 SBs. If they had done this then the Cheats in all likelihood wouldn't have gone back to cheating.

ChaosTheory 06-15-2023 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 267960)
No one's saying that Brady wasn't a damn good QB, but the deflated balls definitely helped him out (why would he have done it if it didn't). And Spygate absolutely helped the Cheats win Superbowl titles. What the league should have done back in '07 was suspended Belicheat for a year and informed the Cheats that if they were caught illegally video taping their opponents again then Belicheat would receive a lifetime ban and they would strip them of their 3 SBs. If they had done this then the Cheats in all likelihood wouldn't have gone back to cheating.

The fact that the Saints' bountygate induced harsher penalties than spygate is still laughably absurd.

Saints lost their HC, GM, Asst. HC, and DC on top of losing consecutive 2nd-round picks.

Patriots lost a 1st... and then when they got busted again in 2019, they lost a 3rd.

The money part is a joke anyway, but the fact that they got busted a second time and the fine only increased to basically the rate of inflation is hilarious.

Dam8610 06-15-2023 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 267909)
I am quoting from Damn now:

So remove Brady and Belicheat from the record books and ban them for life,

Is on page 7 of this and is a post you liked Racehorse

How else do you deal with the fact that it's known that the integrity of the game was completely nonexistent in that era? Bill Polian banned cameras from the sidelines of the AFC Championship Game and the Colts won. You don't think the result would've changed in several other games under the same conditions?

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 06-28-2023 02:02 PM

According to Schefter, the latest round of suspensions related to gambling will be finalized this week. He also notes that there will be multiple NFL players receiving a full season suspension (hopefully no other Colts besides Rodgers)


https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...94126802042880

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A handful of NFL players, including Colts’ cornerback and kick returner Isaiah Rodgers, are expected to receive season-long suspensions this week for allegedly gambling, sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...99797748219904

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Players suspended for gambling the past two offseasons:

At least one year (bets on NFL):
- WR Calvin Ridley
- S CJ Moore
- WR Quintez Cephus
- DE Shaka Toney

Six games (non-NFL bets but made at work facilities):
- WR Jameson Williams
- WR Stanley Berryhill

Colts And Orioles 06-28-2023 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 268414)



According to Schefter, the latest round of suspensions related to gambling will be finalized this week. He also notes that there will be multiple NFL players receiving a full season suspension (hopefully no other Colts besides Rodgers)


https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...94126802042880


https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...99797748219904




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If Rodgers gets a one-year suspension, as Schefter infers, then he is very fortunate.

I hope that he is back with the Colts for the 2024 season.

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nate505 06-28-2023 03:40 PM

Sounds like he wasn't the only one.

Personally I think it's a good punishment. It's severe, but not career ending unless he gets blackballed or something. I hope he doesn't though. I feel like players have done a lot worse in life, though like in life the more talented you are the more you can get away with stuff.

Once he serves his suspension I wouldn't care if he came back to the Colts.

Oldcolt 06-28-2023 04:33 PM

Agree that this makes sense. Severe but not career threatening. Hopefully he gets some help, gets a hold of a great trainer and comes back with intensity next year. I want him back here if possible. He is a decent corner and you cannot have enough of them

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 06-29-2023 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 268415)
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If Rodgers gets a one-year suspension, as Schefter infers, then he is very fortunate.

I hope that he is back with the Colts for the 2024 season.

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The prior suspensions for Ridley, Moore, Cephus and Toney were announced as indefinite suspensions with a minimum length of one year.

The player then has to apply for re-instatement.

Ridley applied for re-instatement on the first day that he was eligible and was granted re-instatement after only one suspended season.

JAFF 06-30-2023 05:24 PM

Colts' Isaiah Rodgers, two other NFL players receive indefinite suspensions for gambling violations

JAFF 07-02-2023 09:02 AM

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...ost-importance

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-02-2024 12:32 AM

Rodgers gave his first interview since he was suspended. You can read the full article via the link below. I have excerpted a few items from the article:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...re-made-others


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Rodgers said the wagers, including some smaller ones and a $1,000 prop bet, were placed from his online sports gambling account. He said they were made for people who lived in Florida, where online sports betting at that time remained illegal.

"Just trying to help friends and family out, just knowing that it wasn't legal at the time in Florida and it was in Indiana," Rodgers told ESPN.

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"At the end of the day I knew the rules, I wasn't supposed to do it and I got to take what comes with it," Rodgers said.

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Rodgers was asked why he would jeopardize the $850,000 salary he was set to earn during the 2023-24 season.

"I questioned myself, too," Rodgers told ESPN. "But I thought I probably wouldn't get caught, wouldn't get in trouble."

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He said he had known for months that the suspension was coming -- first hearing from his agent in late February or early March that he was under investigation by the NFL -- but he kept the news to himself.

albany ed 02-02-2024 07:35 AM

Way back in the 60's, Paul Hornung and Alex Karras were suspended for a year for gambling. They were gambling with illegal bookies, so the chances of being compromised were greater than Roger' online betting. When they returned, they both renewed fine careers. Can Rogers do the same? Let's hope so.

njcoltfan 02-02-2024 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 292024)
Way back in the 60's, Paul Hornung and Alex Karras were suspended for a year for gambling. They were gambling with illegal bookies, so the chances of being compromised were greater than Roger' online betting. When they returned, they both renewed fine careers. Can Rogers do the same? Let's hope so.

I thought the Colt's released Rodgers.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-02-2024 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 292030)
I thought the Colt's released Rodgers.


Yeah, he was released by the Colts and then signed with the Eagles.

ChaosTheory 02-02-2024 02:11 PM

Sure could've used his ass this season.

Some dummies have to touch the stove.

IndyNorm 02-02-2024 05:59 PM

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He said he had known for months that the suspension was coming -- first hearing from his agent in late February or early March that he was under investigation by the NFL -- but he kept the news to himself.
Probably one of the reasons why the FO was so pissed off about it. He really fucked over the team even moreso by not letting the FO know about it in Feb/Mar when he was notified.


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