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ChaosTheory 11-07-2022 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 248707)
My 80 year old neighbor told me this morning that the whole problem is the LT position, he said it was keeping Nelson and Kelly from being able to do their job. He said fix LT and the OL will be fine!

My 80-year-old neighbor checks the mailbox wearing snow boots and no pants.

Racehorse 11-07-2022 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 248689)
Saturday is a leader of men, no question. Is he a football savant? Who knows, I’ve never been overly impressed with how intellectually hard football is and with so called football geniuses. Real genius is genius their entire life. Football genius lasts a year or two. It isn’t X and O’x. What you need is a leader, he is that.

That is where I am on this. Saturday is a leader, and he will surround himself with good tacticians to do the little stuff and he will do the stuff that makes all the difference.

Racehorse 11-07-2022 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 248690)
As a buddy pointed out to me: what's probably going on is Irsay has decided to blow the coaching staff up and Saturday is doing him a favor by taking over for the rest of the year. On top of that it gives Saturday some good experience in case he decides to get into coaching full time.

Either that or as another buddy theorized: Irsay popped a couple of pills and then did the bubble gum, bubble gum thing w/ the names of everyone in the ROH :D.

Joking aside what is interesting is that at least the IndyStar reported that John Fox was taking over. Maybe Fox agreed to it last night and then changed his mind after sleeping on it.

IndyStar makes up shit and speculates with no real details. That is why Doyel still has a job.

YDFL Commish 11-07-2022 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 248713)
That is where I am on this. Saturday is a leader, and he will surround himself with good tacticians to do the little stuff and he will do the stuff that makes all the difference.

What I know is that he won't stick his head in the play call sheet and hope that's where the answers come from.

njcoltfan 11-07-2022 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 248633)
Wow, this is a sign that Irsay is getting more involved in the Front Office. The owner becoming more involved in the Front Office is almost always bad news.

As far as I am concerned, Irsay is one of the biggest culprits of what has happened to his franchise ! Now he is desperate, and I hate saying this, but he may be tanking !

Oldcolt 11-07-2022 06:55 PM

I don’t think Irsay is looking for the next long term answer here. You all saw what Sunday was, a complete mental/emotional melt down. This team needs to rebuild with at least some of these same players getting back to close to what they were. They need to get shit together and start becoming a team. Saturday can help facilitate this. He knows how to lead men, did it on the field and off the field for years. I hope it works out but am still pessimistic. It’s a tough ask.

njcoltfan 11-07-2022 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 248694)
There will be no turnaround. Two integral coaches are gone. This offense will limp around for the rest of the year. This is a complete disaster unless of course you are trying for a top five pick.

If they are tanking for a QB, they better have either the first or second pick this year,

Chromeburn 11-07-2022 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 248707)
My 80 year old neighbor told me this morning that the whole problem is the LT position, he said it was keeping Nelson and Kelly from being able to do their job. He said fix LT and the OL will be fine!

He must be reading my posts and tweets.

YDFL Commish 11-07-2022 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 248711)
My 80-year-old neighbor checks the mailbox wearing snow boots and no pants.

Is she hot? Can you share her number?

Chromeburn 11-07-2022 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 248713)
That is where I am on this. Saturday is a leader, and he will surround himself with good tacticians to do the little stuff and he will do the stuff that makes all the difference.

None of that is happening. You can't implement a new offense mid-season. We don't even know who will call plays or insert the offense week to week. This has to be a tank job of epic proportions. Otherwise, it is massive incompetence in action. Saturday is probably there just to report who they should keep and not going forward. Full rebuild I expect.

Thats why I think Reich resigned. He had enough.

Chromeburn 11-07-2022 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 248723)
If they are tanking for a QB, they better have either the first or second pick this year,

We have the tenth currently. We won't get the 1st or 2nd. And I'm not a fan of the QB's in this draft. Young is short and skinny. Stroud is Dwayne Haskins 2.0. Levis is really inconsistent. I might gamble on Richardson but he is a huge project who would ironically fit into Reich's system. No surefire QB's this draft.

I would look at Tanner McKee later on.

Kray007 11-07-2022 07:23 PM

Granted that the hire of Jeff Saturday came out of left field, and that there were other coaches who seemed to be more obvious choices. But…

You weren’t going to do someone like Ventrone any favor by making him the sacrificial interim head coach. Let him coach out the season, then interview him without the shadow of a 1-8 stint as interim coach hanging over him.

WaynesWorld87 11-07-2022 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 248733)
We have the tenth currently. We won't get the 1st or 2nd. And I'm not a fan of the QB's in this draft. Young is short and skinny. Stroud is Dwayne Haskins 2.0. Levis is really inconsistent. I might gamble on Richardson but he is a huge project who would ironically fit into Reich's system. No surefire QB's this draft.

I would look at Tanner McKee later on.

Yep. Stroud and Young seem to be the runaway, consensus #1 and #2, but I'm not a fan of either. Don't feel like either of them have "high-probability franchise QB" potential. Of course I'm not as keen on pro-talent-prospects in football as I am in basketball. Just don't get that franchise QB feel from Young or Stroud.

CletusPyle 11-07-2022 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 248730)
None of that is happening. You can't implement a new offense mid-season. We don't even know who will call plays or insert the offense week to week. This has to be a tank job of epic proportions. Otherwise, it is massive incompetence in action. Saturday is probably there just to report who they should keep and not going forward. Full rebuild I expect.

Thats why I think Reich resigned. He had enough.

It's possible he and Irsay got into it and he said, "fire me then"....but does it really matter? It should have been done at the end of last season!

YDFL Commish 11-07-2022 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WaynesWorld87 (Post 248735)
Yep. Stroud and Young seem to be the runaway, consensus #1 and #2, but I'm not a fan of either. Don't feel like either of them have "high-probability franchise QB" potential. Of course I'm not as keen on pro-talent-prospects in football as I am in basketball. Just don't get that franchise QB feel from Young or Stroud.

Another underwhelming QB draft. Maybe we will fuck even more and trade 2 firsts for Aaron Rodgers. It would fit with the pattern.

HoosierinFL 11-07-2022 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 248733)
We have the tenth currently. We won't get the 1st or 2nd. And I'm not a fan of the QB's in this draft. Young is short and skinny. Stroud is Dwayne Haskins 2.0. Levis is really inconsistent. I might gamble on Richardson but he is a huge project who would ironically fit into Reich's system. No surefire QB's this draft.

I would look at Tanner McKee later on.

There are no first round qbs I would consider outside of Levis, and he definitely needs time for development and a friendly system. With a very high pick I’d def go with Anderson, the edge rusher from Alabama. For picks in the 8-10 range, OT Skoronski should be there.

Chromeburn 11-07-2022 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 248736)
It's possible he and Irsay got into it and he said, "fire me then"....but does it really matter? It should have been done at the end of last season!

I think they handed him an impossible situation. I also don't think he wanted to fire Brady or bench Ryan.

I think Irsay is just like, no more mediocrity, just go for a new young QB. The problem is I wouldn't do that in this draft. Unless you want to take on a project at the position. It's too bad because I think Reich would have done well coaching a young QB up.

Reich had a top ten offense every year except this one and the Brisset year.

Chromeburn 11-07-2022 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 248739)
There are no first round qbs I would consider outside of Levis, and he definitely needs time for development and a friendly system. With a very high pick I’d def go with Anderson, the edge rusher from Alabama. For picks in the 8-10 range, OT Skoronski should be there.

I would go with the LT from Penn State. Guy is a natural and will be a monster. But there are about four underclassmen LT's that should be good.

YDFL Commish 11-07-2022 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 248740)
I think they handed him an impossible situation. I also don't think he wanted to fire Brady or bench Ryan.

I think Irsay is just like, no more mediocrity, just go for a new young QB. The problem is I wouldn't do that in this draft. Unless you want to take on a project at the position. It's too bad because I think Reich would have done well coaching a young QB up.

Hopefully the truth comes out tonight. IMO, it was Reich who made every move from Ryan to Brady, to his dismissal. The Christian in him could not let it go on any longer.

Chromeburn 11-07-2022 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 248742)
Hopefully the truth comes out tonight. IMO, it was Reich who made every move from Ryan to Brady, to his dismissal. The Christian in him could not let it go on any longer.

I disagree. I think this is all Irsay. NFL radio has had several guys on close with Frank and they were all saying he would never fire his coordinator mid-season and Ehlinger is not ready to play. Its pretty obvious. This screams Irsay calling the shots now. And now Saturday which is out of left field.

YDFL Commish 11-07-2022 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 248743)
I disagree. I think this is all Irsay. NFL radio has had several guys on close with Frank and they were all saying he would never fire his coordinator mid-season and Ehlinger is not ready to play. Its pretty obvious. This screams Irsay calling the shots now. And now Saturday which is out of left field.

If that is the case we are fucked!

TheMugwump 11-07-2022 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 248640)
Who is gonna call plays? They don’t have anyone who’s ever done it.

Matt Ryan.

The offense only really moved the ball when they went hurry-up, and he was calling them then.

IndyNorm 11-07-2022 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 248699)
Erickson wrote that story. He thought that Reich may be gone after yesterday's press conference. So he inserted that extra paragraph in case the news broke while he was traveling back from Boston.

However, he had inserted his best guess at who would take over (I mentioned in a different thread that Keefer thought it would be Ventrone). The IndyStar editor was supposed to update it with the actual interim coach. Erickson admits that he should have placed a XXXXXXXXXX as a placeholder to make it obvious that it needed to be updated.

Ok, thanks. That makes sense.

apballin 11-07-2022 08:17 PM

I don’t know what to think about this, I respect Saturday but a guy with no coaching experience seems crazy

IndyNorm 11-07-2022 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 248700)
Nope, there’s no way Nelson and crew are that bad. I don’t buy this narrative they got paid and quit. This is bad coaching. Just the mere fact they couldn’t pick up stunts, over and over, speaks volumes to how bad the coaching of this team is.

The problem with that theory is that Strausser has been here since '19. I wouldn't think changing assistants would be that detrimental. Maybe replacing Fisher and Glow w/ Pryor and Pinter was so disruptive that it caused Nelson's, Kelly's, and Smith's play to go to shit, but seems like there's more too than just that.

IndyNorm 11-07-2022 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 248730)
None of that is happening. You can't implement a new offense mid-season. We don't even know who will call plays or insert the offense week to week. This has to be a tank job of epic proportions. Otherwise, it is massive incompetence in action. Saturday is probably there just to report who they should keep and not going forward. Full rebuild I expect.

Thats why I think Reich resigned. He had enough.

Has it been confirmed that Reich resigned? Seems like that would cost him a lot of money if he had. Although I suppose he could have worked something out a settlement w/ Irsay.

IndyNorm 11-07-2022 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 248739)
There are no first round qbs I would consider outside of Levis, and he definitely needs time for development and a friendly system. With a very high pick I’d def go with Anderson, the edge rusher from Alabama. For picks in the 8-10 range, OT Skoronski should be there.

What about Hooker at QB? I know he struggled against UGA, but he's been lighting it up against everyone else including Bama.

YDFL Commish 11-07-2022 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 248755)
What about Hooker at QB? I know he struggled against UGA, but he's been lighting it up against everyone else including Bama.

Nope.

Hoopsdoc 11-07-2022 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 248740)
I think they handed him an impossible situation. I also don't think he wanted to fire Brady or bench Ryan.

I think Irsay is just like, no more mediocrity, just go for a new young QB. The problem is I wouldn't do that in this draft. Unless you want to take on a project at the position. It's too bad because I think Reich would have done well coaching a young QB up.

Reich had a top ten offense every year except this one and the Brisset year.

Colts fans will live to regret this move. Reich is a good coach, he just had literally nothing to work with. And that’s on Ballard.

If he lands somewhere with a good quarterback in place, he’ll be really good.

YDFL Commish 11-07-2022 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 248759)
Colts fans will live to regret this move. Reich is a good coach, he just had literally nothing to work with. And that’s on Ballard.

If he lands somewhere with a good quarterback in place, he’ll be really good.


No we won't. Reich was trash!

nate505 11-07-2022 08:44 PM

I'm embracing the insanity. The worst thing that could have happened was Reich limping along and seeing games like we saw on Sunday.

At least now things are interesting, even in a train wreck sort of way.

rm1369 11-07-2022 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 248760)
No we won't. Reich was trash!

Should be an easy turnaround then. I guess you believe year 7 for Ballard will be the year it all comes together?

Puck 11-07-2022 08:50 PM

Jeff Saturday is one of my all time favorite Colts behind Reggie, Edge, and Peyton in that order. My daughter got me a 63 jersey for Christmas a few years ago and it is only the 2nd jersey that I hang in my man cave. Reggie of course is the main one (thanks Pez).

With that said. I think he is very knowledgeable and wish him the best but I highly doubt he becomes the long term answer. UNLESS he can surround himself with a top OC and DC. Although I do like Gus at the moment.

IMO. the HC needs to lead and let the coordinators run their platoons and oversee/motivate where needed.

Can Jeff do this. Time will tell. Either way I am rooting for him.

TheMugwump 11-07-2022 08:51 PM

I wouldn't be doing my job as a humanitarian if I didn't express my concern for ChoppedWood moving forward.

Can we get a welfare check on him? I mean, who is he going to bitch about now?

I'm worried for you, Dude!

YDFL Commish 11-07-2022 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 248764)
Should be an easy turnaround then. I guess you believe year 7 for Ballard will be the year it all comes together?

Hi Frank Reich's wife. How's life?

Puck 11-07-2022 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMugwump (Post 248766)
I wouldn't be doing my job as a humanitarian if I didn't express my concern for ChoppedWood moving forward.

Can we get a welfare check on him? I mean, who is he going to bitch about now?

I'm worried for you, Dude!

Yea he's been missing Maybe that is why the press conference keeps getting postponed. He's trying to break in just to hug Irsay

Oh. and he will find something to bitch about. We all know that. HA

CletusPyle 11-07-2022 09:06 PM

I wonder if Peyton and Eli might have Jeff on there tonight?

nate505 11-07-2022 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMugwump (Post 248766)
I wouldn't be doing my job as a humanitarian if I didn't express my concern for ChoppedWood moving forward.

Can we get a welfare check on him? I mean, who is he going to bitch about now?

I'm worried for you, Dude!

I mean, Ballard's still here.

ChaosTheory 11-07-2022 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 248764)
Should be an easy turnaround then. I guess you believe year 7 for Ballard will be the year it all comes together?

Yeah, we'll just wait for you in 2025 to tell us who he obviously should've sold the farm for in 2023. All he has to do is whatever it takes. Make something happen. Don't take no for an answer. Give 110%.

DragonTails 11-07-2022 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 248765)
Jeff Saturday is one of my all time favorite Colts behind Reggie, Edge, and Peyton in that order. My daughter got me a 63 jersey for Christmas a few years ago and it is only the 2nd jersey that I hang in my man cave. Reggie of course is the main one (thanks Pez).

With that said. I think he is very knowledgeable and wish him the best but I highly doubt he becomes the long term answer. UNLESS he can surround himself with a top OC and DC. Although I do like Gus at the moment.

IMO. the HC needs to lead and let the coordinators run their platoons and oversee/motivate where needed.

Can Jeff do this. Time will tell. Either way I am rooting for him.

Maybe Saturday can be one of those player/coaches.


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