We have two speedy guys who could fill that role, but one is very raw and the other is oft-injured.

Winston unquestionably gives us a higher ceiling over Matt Ryan.
Matt Ryan definitely gives us a higher floor than Winston.
EVEN

Matt Ryan may require draft picks to acquire and will likely come with a 30+ million price tag.
Winston is a FA and will only cost money to acquire (approx. the same deal Trubisky signed @ 12-15 million per year)
+1 Winston

Matt Ryan is a savvy veteran, former MVP, and a very smart QB. One could assume that he would be able to mentor a young draft pick QB, either this year or next.
Winston has not benefited from longevity or success in any place for a sustained period. I have read about his leadership qualities, but doubt he brings in any tutelage value to the Colts.
+1 Ryan

Matt Ryan is 37 years old and likely only has 2-3 years left.
Winston is 10 years younger and if he hits, has the intangibles to maybe land here for a while. Ballard has said he wants to address the position for now AND the future. If Ryan balls out, it will only be for a year or two, and we are RIGHT back to where we are now with our star players being 3 years older.
+1 Winston

Therefore, you see which move I think makes the most sense both short term and long term (Winston)

Add in that Ryan's arm has fallen off and laying on the turf in Atlanta, and the choice should be obvious.

Having said that...If Ryan does become our QB, I would at least hope that we bring in Julio for a year for peanuts

i would rather have mariota than winston

Winston is trash, if we are going for off the street trash I am with Omaha, just get Mariota.

I'm in that boat. If we are going to scour through the dumpster might as well get one that can run. Winston is Wentz. He won't turn the fucking ball loose until the entire D is in his face, and the result is 50/50 completion to a Colt, or the opposing team. He is just not good and I can't believe people that are allegedly intelligent are singing his praises. Dude sucks.

More I think about it, you are correct

Hold out for 3-4 years and we could have a Manning with maybe a Harrison!

Except more rapey.

Wow Watson chose the Browns, it may be baker after all

Remember the last QB we had that made funny commercials?

"Cut that meat, cut that meat, cut that meat!"

and you always want the least rapey as possible


always

Apparently Baker has requested a trade to the Colts, according to Florio.

I’m not sure how much leverage he has. I’d guess he’ll go to the highest bidder.

The less we give the Browns for him in the trade, the better it is for him once he gets here. He’s helping stack the deck in our favor.

Looks like the Falcons and Panthers balked at the salary demands so Watson double backed to Cleveland. Money talks.

https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/st...09838878343171

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/sta...10131682844678

if the colts offer anything more than a 5th, i will be pissed

Puck your nightmare might be coming true.
Lol


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It’ll be more than a 5th. There are to many teams who still need a qb.

I’d guess at least a 3rd.

We got a 2nd and a 3rd for Wentz. If we get Baker for anything less than that, I’m fine with it.

Baker sounds like a prick. Not saying that is a bad thing (I would much rather have a prick than anyone who is even on the rapey scale), but if he wants the Colts I have a feeling he will make sure that the Colts are the team he is traded to, if we want him. Everyone available has been cast aside and looks like crap right now. It is up to Ballard to shift through this morass of QBs and find the one who can actually turn things around. Surely with this many out there one of them has to be better than the rest. Ballard needs to find that one, whomever it is.

Come on ballard, dont do anything stupid now…

Like waste a year of JT's, Leonard's, Q's, etc. prime by handing the QB position to Ehlinger?

Maybe having a team dump him will set Baker on the right path. Didn't work for Wentz, but maybe it will for Baker.

I’d be interested in knowing exactly what he told the Browns when he requested a trade to Indy.

I mean, theoretically he has no leverage here. The Browns can send him wherever they want. He doesn’t have a no trade clause.

As opposed to giving up more picks for a junk qb that wont win a SB for us?

If we give up less to get Mayfield than what we got in return for Wentz then it's worth the risk IMO. He had a bad year last year, but he was hurt. Before the shoulder injury he had improved every year despite their organization being a dumpster fire.

Decent argument.

If they give us a 5th to take Mayfield off their hands isnt so bad?

Welcome back, Swing. Missed your posts lately.

I wouldn't mess with Baker. Hero ball like Wentz & not all that accurate. We got burned once with another team's garbage we don't need to go down that road again.

I don’t agree with that, he doesn’t play hero ball at all he usually gets it out quick but last season between the injury and OBJ it was a disaster for him I still believe he’s capable of being a good QB and as far as fiery leader he’s definitely the opposite of ah shucks Carson

Hahahahahahahahahahah!

He holds the ball as long as Wentz does.

He scrambles a lot.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...-time-to-throw

He sounds like the kind of guy that would be pissed off

Look at his release times before OBJ, once he got there Bakers game totally changed

He was trying to force it to him all the time

Pre OBJ I watched a guy throw laser shots, get the ball out quick he’ll I can recall a game he hit 20 in a row before OBJ

Hahahahahahaha!

Nobody is going to be universally happy no matter who they get at QB. Just go get someone in here and get this thing moving. Maybe a good WR will come in if they actually know who will be throwing them the ball.

Apparently Cleveland sent 3 firsts as well as a third and a fourth.

We are getting Baker.

Does Baker have any clauses in his contract that takes his trade choice into consideration?