I see what you are saying but I dont think ballard would do that.


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I really don't care if Darius gets the vaccine or not its his descision to make. Even if that means it costs us some games Im ok with that because Darius is someone you don't just trade away. You trade Darius away and because you are worried he might cost you a game or 2 and you end up losing more games because your defense is now weaker. This country has lost a lot during this pandemic and a bright side has been this team and its way better with Darius on it then off and its annoying and just plain dumb when people here say get rid of Darius because he won't do something you think everyone should do. I would rather lose a bunch of games this season then get rid of the players that make this team what it is.

I’m not sure I’d go so far as to say trade Leonard, but it certainly increases my concern with the size and length of his next contract. For all the talk of the high quality locker room and culture Ballard is building, one of its most visible and outspoken leaders is, IMO, showing himself to be both selfish and ignorant. That would concern me when handing out a $90-100m contract. It’s unfortunate but how do you ignore it when you’ve spent 5 years preaching about it. We’ll see how it all plays out but it looks like his “leadership” may have an affect - Colts are at the bottom in vaccination rates.

Anybody is tradable and no one player is that vital. If you got enough, trading anyone on this team is fine with me. I would still want protection for the team if he still refuses to get vaccinated. It is an unnecessary risk for the team to take on someone making that kind of money

America landed men on the moon 52 years ago this week. Nowdays, we can't even get people to take a vaccine during a pandemic. What a disgrace.

We have seatbelt laws to improve public safety, we have helmet laws in some states for not only motor bikes, but bicycles as well.

But, yet we can't have laws to get vaccinated to improve public safety. The constitution that we live by actually grants these laws for public safety.

We have laws in place for kids getting about 15 different shots as they move through K - MS. It works because we reach a high % of vaccination that prevents a breakthrough infection, Reich being the example.

If we cant get people to get a covid shot, This virus will dog us until we achieve herd immunity or the virus continues to evolve into a more deadly strain and kills off the unvaccinated until they disappear, and this nation will achieve herd immunity at a horrific cost

Colts are still in the bottom two.....


https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/st...46328864952333

Good to see such a dedicated group.

I don’t often agree with Michael Irvin but on this I do. Pretty obvious sign to me this team isn’t ready to win yet.

63%? It will be interesting when these guys get in front of reporters and answer why they are not vaccinated. My guess is that those answers will not endear these guys to most of us.

Buckner, Moore, and Hines all stated today they are fully vaccinated

They might not be allowed to ask those types of questions. HIPPA rules?


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I like those guys.

Any question can be asked, HIPAA means they don't have to answer. It would be easier if the NFL just put in a vaccine mandate, then if they wanted to play they'd have no choice but to get it.

HIPAA does not apply.

HIPAA only prevents medical providers from disclosing medical information to unauthorized persons. It does not prevent someone from asking about your own medical information.

HIPAA has to be one of the most mis-quoted misunderstood things right under freedom of speech. It applies to medical professionals and businesses, they are not allowed to disclose your medical information. They must maintain your privacy. They can share with other professionals if given permission but must maintain security of the info. Finally they must notify you if there is a breach.

It does not apply when say a reporter asks you if you have been vaccinated or not. You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to, but hipaa doesn’t play a part in that.

ahh, thanks for the clarification.

Three defensive players on covid list

https://www.stampedeblue.com/platfor...mpression=true

MLB have their covid issues
 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...id-19-outbreak

PHILADELPHIA -- Four Washington Nationals players and eight staffers have tested positive for COVID-19, forcing Major League Baseball to postpone their game against the Philadelphia Phillies on Wednesday night.

The postponement came one day after Nationals All-Star shortstop Trea Turner exited the game against Philadelphia in the first inning following his positive test for the virus.

Washington manager Dave Martinez said Turner was among four players who tested positive. He didn't identify the others.

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The Nationals reached the 85% vaccination threshold for players and other on-field personnel in late May, which allowed for relaxed protocols.

Martinez said he believes only one of the 12 individuals who tested positive is unvaccinated. Sources told ESPN's Jeff Passan that a number of the breakthrough cases came from those given the single-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

The Nationals-Phillies matchup was scheduled to be made up as part of a straight doubleheader on Thursday starting at 12:05 p.m. ET.

This was the ninth MLB game called off this year because of coronavirus concerns. The Nationals had their season-opening series at home against the New York Mets called off because of virus issues.

MLB announced the Nationals-Phillies postponement about 90 minutes before the game was set to begin at Citizens Bank Park, and said the time would allow for "continued testing and contact tracing involving members of the Nationals organization.''

There were 45 MLB games postponed because of the virus last year during the pandemic-shortened season. All but two of them were eventually made up.


All these smart people and they cant figure out masks, distancing and vaccines

If you are connecting the syphilis study to covid vaccinations you missed the mark by a mile.

I don't understand what this has to do with COVID vaccinations. Do you have a point to make?

Sorry. Thought I had added to the link. I asked an African American friend of mine about the low rate of vaccinations among the AA community, and he said a lot of them don’t trust any free shot because of this incident. He said it takes time to earn trust back when doctors did this to people in their families. That could be part of why Leonard is reluctant. Sadly, racists in this group will malign the dude without asking for a valid reason. This is considered a valid reason among the community.

Same thing with Native Americans. I can't say that I blame them. White people have NO excuse.

And I would disagree, since that godawful experiment this country has eliminated polio and mumps/measles from the planet, using vaccinations. We have been vaccinating all children for years with few incidents or problems.

The incident you referenced would be a prime example of critical race theory, but lets not dive into that snake pit.

Tell that to those who refuse the vaccine because of it. I bet it falls on deaf ears.

I tell them to go look at their childrens vaccination record and see if they ever contracted any of those diseases.

And if they suggest it hasnt been given final FDA approval, I would point out that the only people being admitted to hospitals or are dying from Covid are UNVACCINATED.

Ron White is right, you cant fix stupid.

Must be really racist to call them all stupid.

If you are black and paranoid about white run institutions you have a good grasp of reality.

Say it again for Jaff. He is daft.

Racist? Plenty of stupid people of all colors. Plenty of white dumbasses in IN

I understand that issue, it does NOT work in a public health emergency. Any person, what ever their sex, color, age, faith have access to a FREE vaccination. A virus doesnt care about politics or history.

Children's hospitals are now reaching max capacity as this virus has mutated, and the mortality rate for that group is rising. The long term effect on children is severe. Those are FACTS, go to the Mayo Clinic web site if you wont believe the CDC or FDA.

http://cid:4C63E079-8F92-4E97-A37F-02E64EF16715

http://cid:8776D703-DF78-4E63-97E4-709F65CF6647

So it COULD be part of the reason, but we are racist if we call out Leonard for an anti vax stance? Get the fuck out of here. Especially coming from someone who it sounds like just found out about one of the many the reasons for the AA communities mistrust. Regardless of whether or not this is part of Leonard’s reluctance, the fact is he is damaging his community. We can guess if it’s out of ignorance, selfishness, or mistrust, but he sure as fuck is not being a leader and should be called out on it. The AA community has been hit hard by COVID and, just like the rest of the US, they need leaders to come out and vocally help encourage people to do what is best for the community. That’s what leaders do. Leonard isn’t being a leader on this team or in his community by holding an ignorant stance regardless of the reason. And he deserves to be called out for it - just like all the ignorant people on the right.

There are many black people who know the history of their mistreatment at the hands of government and medical authorities. Even though the vaccine is different, black communities remain skeptical and concerned. I know this first hand because many in my wife's family refuse the vaccine on these grounds. It frustrates me but that's their concern.

I'm sure many black athletes have this on their mind.

It is good that you are capable of trust with a group that has fucked you over and over and over again because it is a public health issue. I know nobody else in the world that bases their trust not on the people saying it, but instead based on the fact that is is public health. You have absolute faith in those numbers, some people have legitimate reasons to doubt them. I am guessing that anything that came out of our last presidents mouth was met with skepticism. Why? Because in your mind he had lied about a bunch of things. The same can be said of the US government interactions with our fellow black citizens.

I dont trust politicians. I do believe science, doctors, and the cdc. They have no reason to lie. I also have people I trust in the Indy medical profession. They said get a vaccination and I did. So has my family, children, their spouses. The grandkids will get the vaccine when old enough.

Simple fact staring the unvaccinated is this. Every hospital is reporting that only the unvaccinated are being admitted and are dying of covid. Its that simple. You can hold a grudge and risk your life or save your life.

If that asshat Desantis runs for governer he may not have enough republican votes, since its the far right trump idgits who arent getting the shot. How many Pubs will be scrubbed from the voter lists because they are dead? Fuck the republicans, outlast them.

BTW, I’m a registered republican, but that may change. Its hard to associated with fucking morons

Jaff, I agree with you on all of this. I'm vaccinated as is my entire family. It is my opinion that we need to accept people's reasons for not wanting the vaccine if we are ever going to change their minds. Human's are not always logical, as I am you are well aware. Some 30% of the unvaccinated say they are waiting for full approval. I don't agree but it seems a reasonable stand to take. I apologize to the rest of you freaks about going on about freaking politics. Not the correct forum.

I understand completely. Covid is becoming more contagious and deadly. I live in a small town and we have had fatalities that could have been avoided. Im sad, angry, and frustrated. I appreciate your insight and your candor, and will keep it in mind inthe future

The "racist" accusation was sort of tongue in cheek. However, now you accuse me of just now learning about the Tuskegee Experiment, when you have no clue about me or what I am aware of. I was passing along that this is the reason my friend was reluctant, and may be the reason Leonard is reluctant.

Like someone else said, until people learn to be kind to those who disagree on this issue, nobody will be able to persuade anyone on the issue. We have lost the ability to have a civil debate in this country. Trump can be blamed in part, but this has been going on since the early 2000s.

I like how you call others racist “tongue in cheek” but dislike the assumption you may have just learned about the Tuskegee Experiment. And go on to talk about how we lack civility in debate.