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Dewey 5 01-24-2021 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 185102)
Packer coaches were stupid today, including the defensive coordinator.

I'll tell you this much, no way in hell would Reich kick a fg on 4th & goal in that situation.

Chaka 01-25-2021 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185125)
People are going nuts for Stafford on twitter. Great, do we trade in one guy who can’t get to the big game for a guy who can’t even win a playoff game.

I agree the Stafford hype seems to be a little out of control. Look, I'll be happy if we get Stafford like everyone else, but before we anoint ourselves SB champions I think he'll first need to prove is that he's an improvement over Rivers, because apart from his age the stats don't suggest a big difference:

Phillip Rivers
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...R/RivePh00.htm

Matt Stafford
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...S/StafMa00.htm

Chaka 01-25-2021 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185125)
Also as I watch the Bills. I can’t help but wonder if the rumors that luck tried to retire in January are true. That would mean we went into the draft knowing that and we drafted Nelson instead of Josh Allen.

Luck's own statements directly contradict this rumor:
https://cbs4indy.com/sports/colts/es...from-football/

Chromeburn 01-25-2021 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 185140)
January of 2019, after the playoff loss in KC, and a full 9 months after the Colts drafted Nelson, is when Luck was contemplating retirement according to the rumor. There were no QBs not named Kyler Murray worth taking in the 2019 NFL draft.

Yup, that’s the timeline, I was off by a season. He had already played a season with Nelson.

Chromeburn 01-25-2021 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 185151)
Luck's own statements directly contradict this rumor:
https://cbs4indy.com/sports/colts/es...from-football/

I’ve heard differently. Know a few people that work for the team and stadium. That he was contemplating it after the playoff loss. The snowboard thing was true also.

Also heard a big scandal may hit the Colts this off season, hoping it isn’t true.

Racehorse 01-25-2021 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by daedge (Post 185141)
Shame on the entire NFC for letting that old prick join a so, so team and take them to the Super Bowl.

That "so so team" added a TE, WR and RB that were considered in the top players at their position less than two years ago.

albany ed 01-25-2021 08:00 AM

Brady was the missing piece the Bucs needed to get to the next level. However, if not for two minutes (end of the half and the first minutes of the second half), the Packers win that game. Now we need to hope Mahomes can end this Brady fantasy.

IndyNorm 01-25-2021 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 185100)
o

A) ) I was hoping that Rodgers and the Packers were able to repeat what Manning and the 2006 Colts did 14 years ago.

B) ) Tough break for the Packers on the pass interference call late in the 4th quarter which gave the Buccaneers a 1st down, instead of them being forced to punt.

C) ) The Packers getting burned for a 49-yard TD pass when the Buccaneers had no timeouts and only 8 seconds left to play in the 1st half was inexcusable ......
o


Agree on all 3 points C&O. It was ridiculous that the refs decided to finally call PI on that play. While it was technically PI it was less egregious than what they were allowing all game long including the int right before the half. Why the refs are so biased to that cheating shithead is beyond me.

And the Packer's secondary allowing the WR to get by on the TD at the end of the half is one of the worst defensive plays in NFL history. Whoever blew that coverage should have been sent packing at halftime.

Spike 01-25-2021 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 185171)
Agree on all 3 points C&O. It was ridiculous that the refs decided to finally call PI on that play. While it was technically PI it was less egregious than what they were allowing all game long including the int right before the half. Why the refs are so biased to that cheating shithead is beyond me.

And the Packer's secondary allowing the WR to get by on the TD at the end of the half is one of the worst defensive plays in NFL history. Whoever blew that coverage should have been sent packing at halftime.

That was the defensive coordinators fault, they should have been playing zone. Worst case scenario was allowing just a field goal. The Packer coaches were shit yesterday.

Colts And Orioles 01-25-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 185100)
o

A) ) I was hoping that Rodgers and the Packers were able to repeat what Manning and the 2006 Colts did 14 years ago.

B) ) Tough break for the Packers on the pass interference call late in the 4th quarter which gave the Buccaneers a 1st down, instead of them being forced to punt.

C) ) The Packers getting burned for a 49-yard TD pass when the Buccaneers had no timeouts and only 8 seconds left to play in the 1st half was inexcusable ...... it was on par with the 2012 Denver Broncos coughing up the game-tying, 70-yard TD pass when the Ravens had no timeouts and only 30 seconds left to play in the 4th quarter of that season's divisional playoff game. That gaffe cost Peyton Manning a chance to beat Brady in yet another conference championship game (Manning's teams were 3-1 in such games against Brady's teams when Manning retired), and what very well may have been a 3rd Super Bowl ring (in addition to the one that he won 6 years earlier, and the 2nd one that he won 3 years later.)

o


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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 185171)



Agree on all 3 points, C&O. It was ridiculous that the refs decided to finally call PI on that play. While it was technically PI, it was less egregious than what they were allowing all game long including the INT right before the half. Why the refs are so biased to that cheating shithead is beyond me.

And the Packer's secondary allowing the WR to get by on the TD at the end of the half is one of the worst defensive plays in NFL history. Whoever blew that coverage should have been sent packing at halftime.





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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 185175)



That was the defensive coordinators fault, they should have been playing zone. Worst-case scenario was allowing just a field goal. The Packer coaches were shit yesterday.




o

The only way that they would have gotten a field goal there is with an incomplete pass, and then the kicker makes a 66-yarder ...... IF the defense had been playing what anybody who is not acting like they live on Mars had had them playing.

The Buccaneers had no timeouts, and there were only 8 seconds left to play in the half. The Packers should have had 9 defensive backs on the field, and they literally should have positioned 6 of them on the sidelines, 5 yards apart from the line of scrimmage at the 44 yardline, the 39 yardline, and the 34 yardline ........ that would have prevented a quick, sideline pass which (if successful) would have given the Buccaneers a chance for a closer field goal attempt. The remaining 3 defensive backs should have been positioned in the middle of the field at the 5 yardline. They could have given Brady and the Buccaneers ANYTHING THAT THEY WANTED in the middle of the field, because they had 0 timeouts and there were only 8 seconds left to play. That means that they would have had no chance to spike the ball after being tackled in-bounds. It would not have mattered if Brady had hit a receiver 10 yards downfield, 20 yards downfield, or even 30 yards downfield, because in all 3 of those situations the receiver would have been tackled in-bounds to end the half.

o

Chromeburn 01-25-2021 12:32 PM

So Rodgers just said his future seems uncertain with the packers.

Chromeburn 01-25-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 185181)
o

The only way that they would have gotten a field goal there is with an incomplete pass, and then the kicker makes a 66-yarder ...... IF the defense had been playing what anybody who is not acting like they live on Mars had had them playing.

The Buccaneers had no timeouts, and there were only 8 seconds left to play in the half. The Packers should have had 9 defensive backs on the field, and they literally should have positioned 6 of them on the sidelines, 5 yards apart from the line of scrimmage at the 44 yardline, the 39 yardline, and the 34 yardline ........ that would have prevented a quick, sideline pass which (if successful) would have given the Buccaneers a chance for a closer field goal attempt. The remaining 3 defensive backs should have been positioned in the middle of the field at the 5 yardline. They could have given Brady and the Buccaneers ANYTHING THAT THEY WANTED in the middle of the field, because they had 0 timeouts and there were only 8 seconds left to play. That means that they would have had no chance to spike the ball after being tackled in-bounds. It would not have mattered if Brady had hit a receiver 10 yards downfield, 20 yards downfield, or even 30 yards downfield, because in all 3 of those situations the receiver would have been tackled in-bounds to end the half.

o

That’s like football 101. Really inexcusable that happened.

IndyNorm 01-25-2021 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 185175)
That was the defensive coordinators fault, they should have been playing zone. Worst case scenario was allowing just a field goal. The Packer coaches were shit yesterday.

Good point. The DC should definitely be gone for that.

HoosierinFL 01-25-2021 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185153)
I’ve heard differently. Know a few people that work for the team and stadium. That he was contemplating it after the playoff loss. The snowboard thing was true also.

Also heard a big scandal may hit the Colts this off season, hoping it isn’t true.

well you can't leave us hanging on that!

apballin 01-25-2021 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 185214)
well you can't leave us hanging on that!

No shit wtf

Chromeburn 01-25-2021 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 185214)
well you can't leave us hanging on that!

I probably shouldn’t have said anything. This didn’t come from the Colt ppl I know. I could get in trouble for even saying anything. I will say it’s not cheating or anything like that. Recent PR stuff makes me think the Colts know, at least some do. Like I said, hopefully it doesn’t come to pass.

Chromeburn 01-25-2021 04:43 PM

Stafford likes the Colts?


Maniac 01-25-2021 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185228)

It makes the most sense. Great front office. QB friendly coach. Good o-line (before Castanzo retired). Young WR's. Very good RB's. Young defense that is pretty good. It's an ideal situation to win now for an older QB.

Racehorse 01-25-2021 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185228)

Tons of negative comments to that article.

Puck 01-25-2021 07:31 PM

I wanted Stafford last yr before they signed Rivers. I may be the only one on this site but I loved the Rivers signing. Hated that dude for 16 yrs but getting to know him through listening to the players and team and his own comments. I can see why the Charger fans loved him

Go get Stafford Chis!!!!

rcubed 01-25-2021 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 185241)
I wanted Stafford last yr before they signed Rivers. I may be the only one on this site but I loved the Rivers signing. Hated that dude for 16 yrs but getting to know him through listening to the players and team and his own comments. I can see why the Charger fans loved him

Go get Stafford Chis!!!!


I agreed with you Puck, I liked the rivers signing as it made sense at the time. Also being in socal i got to see rivers a lot and didn’t have the hate others did. I got the sense people hated him because of the trash talking, but he always seemed good natured about it.

They do need to address QB long term so whoever it is, I hope its sustained success. I dont want to bounce year to year.


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Chromeburn 01-25-2021 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 185240)
Tons of negative comments to that article.

People don't want to give up draft picks, especially with big holes to fill.

Puck 01-25-2021 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185256)
People don't want to give up draft picks, especially with big holes to fill.

NOT PICKING AT YOU CHROME

Good Lord. People ..... (even on this site which I think has the most knowledgeable colts fans for the most part)..... thought that Bucker was a bad idea when we "needed" a QB.

We were a couple of plays/decisions from being 13-3 winning the South and being the 2 seed by trading for Buckner and signing Rivers along with a great draft.

The people that want Eason either cannot understand that the coaches see these players every freakin day or think they know more!!!!!

Remember the outrage when Quincy Wilson wasn't starting/playing? Pags was 100% right. the kid was a BAD player. How about Dione Cain? Holy shit everyone wanted him to be the next TY. He sucked and still does. Again coaches were right! How about Mike Hart? How about the little receiver that played agains third stringers in preseason? (don't remember his name) He was gonna be an all star.

Guys.... have faith in the coaches. Whether you all like it or not they know WAY more than us.

I'd love Eason to be the man. Hell I was on the bandwagon as soon as Dam showed some videos. Kid has some talent, just must not translate to the NFL yet. I'd rather have him sit and learn more before ruining the kid by rushing him along.

NFL teams have a very little time window to make the run. We are there NOW cannot waste time HOPING that a 4th round pick can get us there. Look at last yrs draft. Burrow, Tua, Herbert and Love. Hell I'll throw in Hurts. Do any of you think that they would have faired better than Rivers? I'm including Burrow in that question. I say no

Adding Stafford would give us a shot (like it did with Rivers) at winning it all. That doesn't come along very often. Rebuild after they give it everything they have now!!

Go get it while you can

Do something BALLARD!!!!

rcubed 01-25-2021 11:03 PM

Deon. Fucking. Cain.

Nuf said.


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smitty46953 01-26-2021 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 185259)
NOT PICKING AT YOU CHROME

Good Lord. People ..... (even on this site which I think has the most knowledgeable colts fans for the most part)..... thought that Bucker was a bad idea when we "needed" a QB.

We were a couple of plays/decisions from being 13-3 winning the South and being the 2 seed by trading for Buckner and signing Rivers along with a great draft.

The people that want Eason either cannot understand that the coaches see these players every freakin day or think they know more!!!!!

Remember the outrage when Quincy Wilson wasn't starting/playing? Pags was 100% right. the kid was a BAD player. How about Dione Cain? Holy shit everyone wanted him to be the next TY. He sucked and still does. Again coaches were right! How about Mike Hart? How about the little receiver that played agains third stringers in preseason? (don't remember his name) He was gonna be an all star.

Guys.... have faith in the coaches. Whether you all like it or not they know WAY more than us.

I'd love Eason to be the man. Hell I was on the bandwagon as soon as Dam showed some videos. Kid has some talent, just must not translate to the NFL yet. I'd rather have him sit and learn more before ruining the kid by rushing him along.

NFL teams have a very little time window to make the run. We are there NOW cannot waste time HOPING that a 4th round pick can get us there. Look at last yrs draft. Burrow, Tua, Herbert and Love. Hell I'll throw in Hurts. Do any of you think that they would have faired better than Rivers? I'm including Burrow in that question. I say no

Adding Stafford would give us a shot (like it did with Rivers) at winning it all. That doesn't come along very often. Rebuild after they give it everything they have now!!

Go get it while you can

Do something BALLARD!!!!

Spot on !!! :cool:

Chaka 01-26-2021 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 185259)
NOT PICKING AT YOU CHROME

Good Lord. People ..... (even on this site which I think has the most knowledgeable colts fans for the most part)..... thought that Bucker was a bad idea when we "needed" a QB.

We were a couple of plays/decisions from being 13-3 winning the South and being the 2 seed by trading for Buckner and signing Rivers along with a great draft.

The people that want Eason either cannot understand that the coaches see these players every freakin day or think they know more!!!!!

Remember the outrage when Quincy Wilson wasn't starting/playing? Pags was 100% right. the kid was a BAD player. How about Dione Cain? Holy shit everyone wanted him to be the next TY. He sucked and still does. Again coaches were right! How about Mike Hart? How about the little receiver that played agains third stringers in preseason? (don't remember his name) He was gonna be an all star.

Guys.... have faith in the coaches. Whether you all like it or not they know WAY more than us.

I'd love Eason to be the man. Hell I was on the bandwagon as soon as Dam showed some videos. Kid has some talent, just must not translate to the NFL yet. I'd rather have him sit and learn more before ruining the kid by rushing him along.

NFL teams have a very little time window to make the run. We are there NOW cannot waste time HOPING that a 4th round pick can get us there. Look at last yrs draft. Burrow, Tua, Herbert and Love. Hell I'll throw in Hurts. Do any of you think that they would have faired better than Rivers? I'm including Burrow in that question. I say no

Adding Stafford would give us a shot (like it did with Rivers) at winning it all. That doesn't come along very often. Rebuild after they give it everything they have now!!

Go get it while you can

Do something BALLARD!!!!

Amen brother! I don't get these people who want to place an inexperienced QB at the head of this offense. The Colts have a championship caliber supporting cast already - they don't have the time to provide on-the-job training to a new QB.

apballin 01-26-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 185291)
Amen brother! I don't get these people who want to place an inexperienced QB at the head of this offense. The Colts have a championship caliber supporting cast already - they don't have the time to provide on-the-job training to a new QB.

On the job training surrounded by elite talent because of the financial freedom a young qb brings. He’d have to do less to win as opposed to the vet qb digging into the salary making the roster weaker

Chaka 01-26-2021 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 185295)
On the job training surrounded by elite talent because of the financial freedom a young qb brings. He’d have to do less to win as opposed to the vet qb digging into the salary making the roster weaker

I get what you are saying, but history hasn't been kind to first year QBs, particularly those who were not drafted at the very top of the first round.

Mahomes, Jackson, Rodgers and many, many others needed at least a year of backup duty before they were ready to take over the reins. As far as Eason is concerned, it would be great if he was ready, but we're not hearing that from anyone at this point and he's had no in-game experience whatsoever to this point. Now, Ballard's Colts are notoriously tight-lipped, so that doesn't necessary mean anything, but he is relatively straightforward when he provides updates and I haven't heard him say anything to suggest that Eason will be the guy next year.

Dam8610 01-26-2021 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 185259)
NOT PICKING AT YOU CHROME

Good Lord. People ..... (even on this site which I think has the most knowledgeable colts fans for the most part)..... thought that Bucker was a bad idea when we "needed" a QB.

We were a couple of plays/decisions from being 13-3 winning the South and being the 2 seed by trading for Buckner and signing Rivers along with a great draft.

The people that want Eason either cannot understand that the coaches see these players every freakin day or think they know more!!!!!

Remember the outrage when Quincy Wilson wasn't starting/playing? Pags was 100% right. the kid was a BAD player. How about Dione Cain? Holy shit everyone wanted him to be the next TY. He sucked and still does. Again coaches were right! How about Mike Hart? How about the little receiver that played agains third stringers in preseason? (don't remember his name) He was gonna be an all star.

Guys.... have faith in the coaches. Whether you all like it or not they know WAY more than us.

I'd love Eason to be the man. Hell I was on the bandwagon as soon as Dam showed some videos. Kid has some talent, just must not translate to the NFL yet. I'd rather have him sit and learn more before ruining the kid by rushing him along.

NFL teams have a very little time window to make the run. We are there NOW cannot waste time HOPING that a 4th round pick can get us there. Look at last yrs draft. Burrow, Tua, Herbert and Love. Hell I'll throw in Hurts. Do any of you think that they would have faired better than Rivers? I'm including Burrow in that question. I say no

Adding Stafford would give us a shot (like it did with Rivers) at winning it all. That doesn't come along very often. Rebuild after they give it everything they have now!!

Go get it while you can

Do something BALLARD!!!!

This is exactly how I hope the Colts are thinking. Acquiring Stafford would give the Colts a Top 10-12 QB at Teddy Bridgewater money (current deal is 2/$43 if traded to Indy). I already laid out the deal that I think gets it done: Stafford for the Colts 2021 1st round pick and a 2022 2nd round pick with an escalator clause that turns it into a 2022 1st round pick if Stafford is First Team All-Pro or the Colts reach the Super Bowl in 2021. Maybe on the latter clause I could be negotiated down to AFCCG, but that would make the intent very clear: this is a team playing for and ready to compete for a championship. You then go sign Trent Williams as a stopgap at LT and I think we're looking at a Colts team that can compete with Kansas City, and a much worse Colts team beat them just last year. I agree, now is the time to pull the trigger. Hopefully Ballard does.

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 185295)
On the job training surrounded by elite talent because of the financial freedom a young qb brings. He’d have to do less to win as opposed to the vet qb digging into the salary making the roster weaker

You do realize Stafford's deal is about as team friendly as it gets for an elite QB, right? He'd have a cap hit of $14 million in 2021 were he traded here. The Colts could actually shop for free agent upgrades if they traded for Stafford. Trent Williams and Yannick Ngakoue would look good in Colts blue alongside Stafford.

Chromeburn 01-26-2021 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 185308)
This is exactly how I hope the Colts are thinking. Acquiring Stafford would give the Colts a Top 10-12 QB at Teddy Bridgewater money (current deal is 2/$43 if traded to Indy). I already laid out the deal that I think gets it done: Stafford for the Colts 2021 1st round pick and a 2022 2nd round pick with an escalator clause that turns it into a 2022 1st round pick if Stafford is First Team All-Pro or the Colts reach the Super Bowl in 2021. Maybe on the latter clause I could be negotiated down to AFCCG, but that would make the intent very clear: this is a team playing for and ready to compete for a championship. You then go sign Trent Williams as a stopgap at LT and I think we're looking at a Colts team that can compete with Kansas City, and a much worse Colts team beat them just last year. I agree, now is the time to pull the trigger. Hopefully Ballard does.



You do realize Stafford's deal is about as team friendly as it gets for an elite QB, right? He'd have a cap hit of $14 million in 2021 were he traded here. The Colts could actually shop for free agent upgrades if they traded for Stafford. Trent Williams and Yannick Ngakoue would look good in Colts blue alongside Stafford.

We need a vet WR in there too probably. Along with hopefully another good drafted WR.

njcoltfan 01-26-2021 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 185308)
This is exactly how I hope the Colts are thinking. Acquiring Stafford would give the Colts a Top 10-12 QB at Teddy Bridgewater money (current deal is 2/$43 if traded to Indy). I already laid out the deal that I think gets it done: Stafford for the Colts 2021 1st round pick and a 2022 2nd round pick with an escalator clause that turns it into a 2022 1st round pick if Stafford is First Team All-Pro or the Colts reach the Super Bowl in 2021. Maybe on the latter clause I could be negotiated down to AFCCG, but that would make the intent very clear: this is a team playing for and ready to compete for a championship. You then go sign Trent Williams as a stopgap at LT and I think we're looking at a Colts team that can compete with Kansas City, and a much worse Colts team beat them just last year. I agree, now is the time to pull the trigger. Hopefully Ballard does.



You do realize Stafford's deal is about as team friendly as it gets for an elite QB, right? He'd have a cap hit of $14 million in 2021 were he traded here. The Colts could actually shop for free agent upgrades if they traded for Stafford. Trent Williams and Yannick Ngakoue would look good in Colts blue alongside Stafford.

Lets not be naive, you don't think he's going to go to a new team without renegotiating his present contract, do you? Especially the Colts knowing their cap space, and the pickle their in regarding the QB position!!

apballin 01-26-2021 05:41 PM

I trust Ballard just don’t give up too much for him Chris but it would make us better so fuck it

Maniac 01-26-2021 07:52 PM

A lot of speculation that Rodgers may force his way out of Green Bay. He's an asshole, but a hell of a talent. I would be ok with either him or Stafford.

Dam8610 01-27-2021 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 185313)
Lets not be naive, you don't think he's going to go to a new team without renegotiating his present contract, do you? Especially the Colts knowing their cap space, and the pickle their in regarding the QB position!!

Why do you think that? The Colts might extend him, but having a talent like Stafford at QB for a $14 million 2021 cap hit at a time when the cap is going to massively hamper several teams is something that could allow the Colts to leverage the market to their advantage.

njcoltfan 01-27-2021 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 185367)
Why do you think that? The Colts might extend him, but having a talent like Stafford at QB for a $14 million 2021 cap hit at a time when the cap is going to massively hamper several teams is something that could allow the Colts to leverage the market to their advantage.

I just think that he's going to want to renegotiate his present contract, he also knows that 14m is unbelievably low for a franchise QB.

albany ed 01-27-2021 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 185371)
I just think that he's going to want to renegotiate his present contract, he also knows that 14m is unbelievably low for a franchise QB.

If he has the leverage to void trades, that strengthens his ability to renegotiate his contract, but it also diminishes his trade value and some teams that are nearly cap strapped will be out of the running This could mean getting him at a cheaper trade price.

Dam8610 01-27-2021 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 185371)
I just think that he's going to want to renegotiate his present contract, he also knows that 14m is unbelievably low for a franchise QB.

His cap hit with the Lions is $33 million. He was already playing on a $14 million base salary this year. If he came here, why would he want to hurt the Colts ability to put the best team around him?

Puck 01-27-2021 11:06 AM

More on Jaime Newman from Senior bowl

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2021/1/...can-team-day-1

Quote:

Perhaps the best performance of the day came from someone who didn’t play at all in 2020. The day started for Newman with weigh-ins where his hands measured a large 10 inches from thumb to pinkie. That’s really good. I know many people tend to roll their eyes at things like hand measurements, but there’s a reason NFL teams still want to know how big QB hands are. Historically the most successful quarterbacks have had large hands, that’s not to say that large hands predict success, but some league evaluators believe that large hands will allow some quarterbacks to have the success they wouldn’t have otherwise.

Beyond that measurement, Newman looked like the best quarterback at the Senior Bowl. While that may not be as high of a bar as it was last year, Newman did look better than possible late first-round pick, Mac Jones of the Alabama Crimson Tide. Newman has a big arm and threw well all day long. If Newman keeps up this pace, he might have literally made himself millions of dollars this week in Mobile.

njcoltfan 01-27-2021 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 185377)
His cap hit with the Lions is $33 million. He was already playing on a $14 million base salary this year. If he came here, why would he want to hurt the Colts ability to put the best team around him?

I just have a feeling that he might want to negotiate his final contract, with whoever winds up getting him.

rcubed 01-27-2021 04:56 PM

Irsay quote looks like he thinks a vet would be best currently.

“Our belief is we’re close, that we have a tremendous nucleus of players that are capable of competing for the Super Bowl very soon,” Irsay said, via Zak Keefer of TheAthletic.com. “Ideally if you can get someone to come in this year who’s ready to go, it gives you your best opportunity.”

But then goes on to say

“If we can get the great young guy, the one you can build around for 15 years, that’s ideal, but if not, there’s other ways to get it done,” Irsay said, via Joel A. Erickson of the Indianapolis Star.


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