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Colts And Orioles 01-22-2021 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 184816)



Yes, sure, Buffalo was a great game ......

We lost to every AFC playoff team we faced. Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Tennessee (once), Baltimore all in the regular season, then Buffalo in the playoffs. I'm pretty sure we would have lost to the chiefs. We also lost to the jags. If we are talking about close games, we nearly lost to houston, twice.

I'm not saying rivers is better than Brissett, or that Eason is our QB answer. I'm saying we traded a year of our Qb development (whoever that may have been) for our Philip rivers shot at the Super Bowl.




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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 184818)



They beat Green Bay, and would've beaten Tennessee in both games if Buckner wasn't on the COVID list for the second game. Games against playoff teams are hard, so are games against franchise QB's. For the latter portion, ask any AFC South rival about the last 20 years prior to 2019. It was much more enjoyable to watch an 11-5 team that had a puncher's chance in the playoffs than it would've been to watch an 5-11 team where all the talent on this roster went to waste.




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Correct.

The Colts also choked away the Steelers game late in the season, but they certainly showed (even in that disastrous of a collapse game) that they were right up there with the best teams in the AFC in 2020. And even though they lost to the Ravens in the regular season, they gave the Bills a much better run for their money in the playoffs than did that same Ravens team ...... in my rat's ass of an opinion, this was unquestionably a complete (or near complete) team that was a bona-fide contender for the AFC championship and a trip to the Super Bowl.

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Pez 01-22-2021 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 184862)
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Pez is an otherwise solid poster.

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This thread makes my day, I love this site.

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Oldcolt 01-22-2021 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 184864)
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this was unquestionably a complete (or near complete) team that was a bona-fide contender for the AFC championship and a trip to the Super Bowl.

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Maybe with a few additions. As it is we are middle of the pack team. If we weren't we would still be playing. Every losing team has a good reason why they 'should' have won. This team has only shown that it can lose respectably to playoff teams.

Colts And Orioles 01-22-2021 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 184887)



Maybe with a few additions. As it is, we are a middle-of-the-pack team. If we weren't, we would still be playing. Every losing team has a good reason why they 'should' have won. This team has only shown that it can lose respectably to playoff teams.



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That's not necessarily true, at all. Middle-of-the-pack teams don't go 11-5, and barely lose a playoff game to a top-flight team like the 2020 Bills. NFL history is loaded with very good, even sometimes great teams that have lost in the post-season, from the 1998 Vikings to the 1976 Steelers to the 2005 Colts to the 1968 Colts, and many more. All of those teams lost in the post-season, and nobody in their right mind would say that they were middle-of-the-pack teams because of it. So barely losing to the Bills in the playoffs doesn't necessarily relegate the Colts to a middle-of-the-pack team, as you assert.

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Oldcolt 01-23-2021 01:19 AM

I don't think there is a huge difference between middle of the pack and elite in the NFL. A couple of playmakers in the right positions and we are in the fight. Unfortunately, one of those positions we need to improve on is qb.

apballin 01-23-2021 10:23 AM

Solid O-line, solid defense, great running back, we don’t need a hero at qb just someone that can threaten the entire field and buy a little time when needed with his legs

JAFF 01-23-2021 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 184918)
Solid O-line, solid defense, great running back, we don’t need a hero at qb just someone that can threaten the entire field and buy a little time when needed with his legs

That would be Eason.

Maniac 01-23-2021 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184956)
That would be Eason.

Apparently not or Ballard wouldn't be looking for a QB.

indycolts2 01-23-2021 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 184124)
Eason will probably never be ready. He is a long shot and counting on him is silly.

So until Mortensons dumb ass report last year the guy projected to be late 1st or early 2nd round pick will probably never be ready? How so?

JAFF 01-23-2021 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Maniac (Post 184960)
Apparently not or Ballard wouldn't be looking for a QB.

From college career he has a big freaking arm and moves well. He has no experience, covid screwed every body out of quality time

Pez 01-25-2021 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184977)
From college career he has a big freaking arm and moves well. He has no experience, covid screwed every body out of quality time

Agree COVID screwed Eason out of time, but we have to credit Philip Rivers with that as well.

Maybe we should have tried to develop Eason last year at the beginning of the year, Maybe we .... Matt Stafford.... SQUIRREL!

Chromeburn 01-25-2021 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 185172)
Agree COVID screwed Eason out of time, but we have to credit Philip Rivers with that as well.

Maybe we should have tried to develop Eason last year at the beginning of the year, Maybe we .... Matt Stafford.... SQUIRREL!

Ehh, it’s Eason’s job to get on the field. I’m sure they are working with him as much as possible. But he was a project when they drafted him. Covid definetly hurt his preseason snaps. I would say he should have stayed in school, but covid almost cancelled the pac 12 season. I guess he still would have gotten more work there.

Two things Reich always talks about concerning QBs is mental processing and accuracy. Those are the two most important traits to him that a QB should have.

Also the league is trending towards mobile QBs. Guys that can extend the play and create when the play breaks down. Russel Wilson, Allen, Mahomes. Not a guy that’s going to run for a TD. But a guy that can avoid the rush for a few seconds and find a receiver.

albany ed 01-25-2021 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185192)
... Russel Wilson, Allen, Mahomes. Not a guy that’s going to run for a TD. But a guy that can avoid the rush for a few seconds and find a receiver.

I believe Allen is a little bit different from Russell and Mahomes. They mainly avoid the rush to find a receiver, Allen does that but also runs as part of the offensive plan. I really think he's more like Cam Newton and may suffer the same fate. A brilliant career cut short by taking too many big shots.

Oldcolt 01-25-2021 03:05 PM

Zak Keefer on latest "One Percent Better" podcast said he spoke to someone close to Jacob Eason, and he's committing himself hard to have a shot to battle for the starting spot this fall. Says to not overlook Eason, that he is very much a part of this equation.

If true I'm glad he has a good mental outlook. Seriously doubt he is the answer but who the hell knows

Chromeburn 01-25-2021 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 185206)
I believe Allen is a little bit different from Russell and Mahomes. They mainly avoid the rush to find a receiver, Allen does that but also runs as part of the offensive plan. I really think he's more like Cam Newton and may suffer the same fate. A brilliant career cut short by taking too many big shots.

If he survives his younger years, he will settle into a player like those guys. Elway might be a good comparison. Luck thought he was invincible at times. You takes hits the league will chew you up and spit you out.

albany ed 01-25-2021 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185224)
If he survives his younger years, he will settle into a player like those guys. Elway might be a good comparison. Luck thought he was invincible at times. You takes hits the league will chew you up and spit you out.

Besides having a shitty OL, Luck had two big problems.

1. He would tell the defensive lineman that just pummeled him, "Nice Hit!" I'm sure he meant it, but nothing would ensure that they hit you even harder next time like those words.

2. He never really ever learned to slide very well, if at all. If I were the coach I would have told him to lose the congrats talk after being hit, and in his first off season, I would have hired a seasoned baseball coach to teach him the art of sliding.

BCN#1 01-29-2021 05:36 PM

Perhaps Tom Arth or Curtis Painter are available and doing nothing? :eek::p:rolleyes:

Too bad Eason is a slow burn but maybe time to also throw him into the deep end if we cannot land a seasoned vet that is semi worth a crap? That said, I really do not want to fall back on the overpriced "Brisket". Just my humble opion.

rcubed 01-29-2021 06:05 PM

I would rather roll with eason and OJT than another brissett season.

Dam8610 01-29-2021 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 185628)
i would rather roll with eason and ojt than another brissett season.

OJT? a

rcubed 01-29-2021 11:46 PM

On the job training


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Oldcolt 02-06-2021 06:20 PM

I had missed this but Eason is working out with Tom House, the guy that Luck worked with. Don't know what to make of this except it is very positive that the guy is working.

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2021/...uru-tom-house/

JAFF 02-06-2021 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 186322)
I had missed this but Eason is working out with Tom House, the guy that Luck worked with. Don't know what to make of this except it is very positive that the guy is working.

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2021/...uru-tom-house/

House will work on all parts of his mechanics, especially his feet. With no camp or mini camps its a smart move


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