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Chromeburn 12-31-2018 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts fan from BK (Post 102303)
Don’t forget about Deon Cain

I look forward to seeing what Cain can offer. But he hasn't played a down yet, is coming off a knee injury, and would essentially be playing his rookie season next year. It may take a little time with him. Fountain should see some progress with a full NFL off-season. I think we make one more draft pick in the first 3 rounds and throw them into the bunch with Innman, Pascal, and Rodgers

DrSpaceman 12-31-2018 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 102302)
One missed call that pissed me off was early in the 4th on that Titans WR screen. Moore read it add could’ve had a pick 6 but the off receiver was shoving him as the ball was in the air. It was pretty egregious especially after all the ticky tack penalties on Glowinski.

Especially when earlier in the game the called a penalty against the Colts on the EXACT SAME PLAY by the exact same WR in that position.

Really this should not have been a close game and the Colts let the Titans stay in it almost the whole game with turnovers and penalties. Some penalties deserved, some were not. The "tripping" call in particular was total BS. He fell down and was rolling over, the guy jump over him vertically.

I thought Mack played great, hard to fault a guy for a 100+ yard rushing game.

Have to tighten things up in the playoffs to go far, though I think just making the playoffs was about as much as we could hope for from this team. They can beat Houston, but once they go up against KC or SD, maybe NE, I can't see the D being good enough. They'd have to win a shootout in those. Which they can do, but Luck won't be able to make any stupid mistakes like that INT last night. NE WR group and Offense is not what it was in year's past. I know they blew out the Colts earlier in the year but that was a Thursday game as well with Walker and Leonard not in the game.

The hit out of bound penalty on the Colts didn't look as bad in replay as in real time. And again, was no more egregious than the hit on Luck out of bound where he slid and easily could have been injured, which was not called.

ChoppedWood 12-31-2018 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 102288)
Luck will make at least 1 wtf bonehead throw in every game.
TY is a baller.
Odum sucks donkey balls.
Boehm is a decent replacement for Kelly, nothing more.
Kenny Moore has done nothing but continue to get better every week.
I would like to see Wilkins get more carries.
I like Mack a lot. But I'm not sure that he's even at a Joseph Addai level right now.
WR2 has got to be a huge consideration this off season.
Mo-Allie Cox could become a really good all around TE.
Anybody see the play where Costanzo was the extra RT and Mo-Allie Cox was playing LT? At least that's what I think I saw.
The consistent pockets that this OL creates are a thing of beauty.
Reich is a great coach.
Dam may be smarter than all of us, but he sucks at analyzing football.

I saw that same line up with Castonzo flanked by MoAllie as the tackle- and he played it pretty decent really, it was a strange looking play...

Yes, Reich is bad ass- we got so lucky McSuck showed his ass.

HoosierinFL 12-31-2018 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 102292)
Both of those were awful plays. The other one was him running into the other colts defender in the end zone who was in position to get the INT. He should have been benched for that late hit play alone. That was high level dumbfuckery. Make excuses for the guy if you want, but I don't give a shit if he was drafted or undrafted. If you make stupid plays like that, your ass needs to be on the bench.

Think that was Desir? There's no guarantee Desir makes that catch or more importantly, successfully outfights the receiver for the ball. Odum was in a slightly better position to make the catch and getting in there ensured at least a pass defense

JAFF 12-31-2018 09:40 AM

Hopefully we will see the following with the Texans.

* great Andrew, no bad Andy. Am I wrong or does he make one boneheaded decision at least every game?

* A huge decrease in the lazy penalties that we saw last night.

* they park Hilton in the training room for the week and then roll them out for Saturday because he doesn’t need to practice.

* Kelly back at center.

Maniac 12-31-2018 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 102319)
Think that was Desir? There's no guarantee Desir makes that catch or more importantly, successfully outfights the receiver for the ball. Odum was in a slightly better position to make the catch and getting in there ensured at least a pass defense

The pass was already defended. All Odum did was ensure the Colts defender had no chance to pick it off.

Maniac 12-31-2018 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 102314)

The hit out of bound penalty on the Colts didn't look as bad in replay as in real time. And again, was no more egregious than the hit on Luck out of bound where he slid and easily could have been injured, which was not called.

Luck wasn't hit out of bounds. He was pushed as he was headed out of bounds. Odum hit his guy a yard or two out of bounds and gave them the frist down with that stupid play. Do that stupid shit against the Texans and it may cost us the game.

DrSpaceman 12-31-2018 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 102325)
Luck wasn't hit out of bounds. He was pushed as he was headed out of bounds. Odum hit his guy a yard or two out of bounds and gave them the frist down with that stupid play. Do that stupid shit against the Texans and it may cost us the game.

Luck was shoved when he was obviously going out of bounds.

Like I said, Odum's play was not as bad on the replay as it looked in real time. The runner was still in bounds as he was going in for the tackle, then stepped out. He hit him out of bounds, but he was not yet out of bounds when odum started his tackle.

They were similar plays. Odum's was worse, but not by much

Maniac 12-31-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 102331)
Luck was shoved when he was obviously going out of bounds.

Like I said, Odum's play was not as bad on the replay as it looked in real time. The runner was still in bounds as he was going in for the tackle, then stepped out. He hit him out of bounds, but he was not yet out of bounds when odum started his tackle.

They were similar plays. Odum's was worse, but not by much

Luck was not out of bounds when he was pushed. That play looked worse because of the surface he slid on once he got out of bounds.

Odum's play was FAR worse.

Here is the angle he took on that tackle. You see that he's angled to go after the tackle clearly way out of bounds:

https://i.imgur.com/vhJIDRu.jpg


Here is where he hit Lewis:

https://i.imgur.com/xVFsPNd.jpg
WAY out of bounds on that hit

There isi ZERO excuse to take that angle for a tackle when headed to the sideline. You take the angle at the sideline and if you miss him, it's because he went out of bounds, but you don't take a tackling angle that puts you way out of bounds. That's just stupid.

DrSpaceman 12-31-2018 11:14 AM

I am not arguing that it was not a penalty or whether he should have done it.

But your pictures suck and don't really prove what you think.

I cut the guys some slack on these things, they happen once in awhile. We get all over them to be aggressive and play through the whistle and then also jump all over them when they make plays like this on the sideline that are closer than what you are saying and what your pictures show. They are trying to make a split second decision on hitting or holding up on someone going out of bounds.

Your picture doesn't show where the ball carrier was when he started the move for the tackle. Still pictures like this are not that valuable, especially from this angle.


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