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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 80208)

To player development? Yes. To actual in game results? Typically no. If you actually read my argument instead of distilling it down to a sentence you could parrot all over like an idiot, you'd know that has been my consistent opinion on the matter.

That's why you're consistently wrong.

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 80211)

Can you not see the difference in play calling and how it is light years better this year to last year? It's about as blindingly obvious as it gets.

The offensive playcalling has improved drastically, which is no surprise given that Reich was an offensive coach for a very innovative offense last year and Pagano was too conservative offensively.

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 80214)

The offensive playcalling has improved drastically, which is no surprise given that Reich was an offensive coach for a very innovative offense last year and Pagano was too conservative offensively.

You realize that's something that's occurring in-game right? Those play calls are happening during the game, so why are you saying coaching makes no difference to in-game results? You just admitted that it does in this last post, so please quit being stupid.

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 80211)

Can you not see the difference in play calling and how it is light years better this year to last year? It's about as blindingly obvious as it gets.

They run play action, haven't seen that in forever

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 80220)

That is like telling water to stop being wet.

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Originally Posted by Colt Classic (Post 80201)

Corey Simon for a quick game or two.

I'm a big Corey Simon fan and remember him far more fondly as the guy who occupied the entire OL and allowed every other DL to make plays in 2005 vs the fat tub of lard everyone else seems to remember him as.

But even Simon wasn't in the backfield; he was occupying blockers. More of a Vince Wilfork type. Hunt is just moving blockers, quickly and violently as hell, into the backfield.

The 1995 DL (Bennett, Whittington, McCoy, Siragusa) was pretty good. They (and front seven in general) were a very physical unit that owned the LOS, forced turnovers and played a really good brand of smashmouth football.

The only thing worse than Dam bringing up his dumb ideas on coaching is you dummies baiting him into defending his dumb ideas on coaching. Can we move on for fucks sake or are we just going to let this ruin every thread?

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 80258)

So Nyheim Hines's TD run was the result of the playcall? Eric Ebron's TD catch was all about the playcall? TY Hilton's big gain at the end of the first quarter was the playcall? What you and everyone else refuse to understand for some reason is that players still have to execute. A playcall cannot create a result, because schemes can be designed and work perfectly to give a player an opportunity, and that player can still completely blow their assignment. Similarly, a playcall can break down completely and the play still yield a huge positive gain thanks to the efforts of the players. The players determine the results on the field in almost every case.

I see it more like telling you or Omaha to stop holding GMs accountable. How can one stop what they never started?

No shit. Players have to make plays (this was already known by everyone, it's not some amazing revelation you tried to make), but they have a much easier time doing so when it's a good play as opposed to a shit play like Pagano and company would call. You try to make it easier on those playmakers, not harder. When you make it easier on those playmakers with better calls, it absolutely affects the game, just as you admitted earlier. Quit being obtuse.

The way they use TY Hilton is the biggest thing from the coaches, and I primarily mean Reich, so far. We have all been calling for it for, what, 4 years, and they are finally doing it. No, he is not doing everything downfield, as is traditionally his best attribute. But they are using his speed and finding him a way to get him the ball. The drag routes, bunch formations......My God, some Colts coach has been watching football in the last 10 years and knows how to run these finally and use them to get the ball to the fastest guy on the team!! TY Hilton is no longer just shut out of the game if teams stop the vertical passing game. He can actually do other things.