Not disagreeing there. But unless she attacks with a weapon where you have to defend yourself from physical harm then there's no excuse in laying your hands on a woman.

I hope you're not trying to say that b/c he didn't beat the shit out of her what he did was ok.

I’m not defending putting hands on a woman at all, to instantly side with the woman saying she was body slammed is what I disagree with.

Update on Ogletree:

https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/st...51702409933044

https://twitter.com/RomeovilleKid/st...48946039140766

o


Dismissed "with prejudice" ...... meaning dismissed permanently ...... the DA cannot change their mind and refile charges again for this specific incident.


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...with-prejudice


When Ogletree was first arrested, my first inclination was to think that he probably hit her, regardless of whether or not the prosecutor could prove it ...... but because of the manner in which the charges were dismissed, I'm wondering whether or not he hit her at all ...... or at the very least, if she was hit him first, and he retaliated by hitting her back.

o

o


There has been some discussion as to whether or not a man should hit a woman if she hits him first, and he is defending himself. If you all would bear with me, I would like to share my own personal story on the matter.

First of all, I would like to say that I believe that each and every case is different, and therefore that what happened with me should not necessarily be taken as a presumption that every other circumstance of domestic violence should be judged accordingly.

In 1991, I was 25 and my girlfriend was 19. We were arguing vehemently. She came toward me with her arm raised, as though she were going to smack me. I was very angry because of whatever it was that we were arguing about, and I kicked my foot towards her. My foot hit her in the stomach, and she groaned, turned around, and fell to the floor. It was one of the worst feelings that I ever had, and to this day I feel great remorse about it. I wasn't worried about her calling the police on me, because I knew that she wouldn't ...... but my feelings of guilt and remorse about what I did was as bad as the anxiety over being worried about getting arrested.


Like I said, just because that was my experience does not necessarily mean that each and every other case of a man hitting a woman after she hit him first should be judged accordingly ...... obviously it's different if she is coming at you with a stake-knife or a hammer, but anything short of something like that, I would highly recommend that you refrain from striking her so as to avoid the guilt and remorse that I still feel about this incident 33 years after the fact.

o

Good news for Ogletree at least. We'll see if the NFL and/or Colts still take action against him.

Be kind of a shame if the dude gets raked over the coals by the guilty-until-proven-innocent brigade for three or four months, then gets essentially vindicated by the judicial system...

...but then the league/team still punishes him or bails on him because of pressure from those same types.

Don't disagree. My comment was more about reading that the NFL is still conducting their investigation and that he could still be suspended, etc.

I hope he bounces back from this

you kicked her in the stomach instead of grabbing her or blocking said smack?

fucking ruthless.

that said, people should have the right to defend themselves. if a tiny, non threating man like dam were to try and smack a normal dude, i wouldn't judge them for beating him down or tossing him away like a napkin. regardless of how weak and fragile he is