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Hoopsdoc 09-01-2017 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 23611)
They will still win 10-11 games y'all are trippin

What exactly is better about this years team than the last 2'years 8 win teams?

Serious question. Because from where I sit, there is NOTHING better about this years team and quite a bit that is worse.

DrSpaceman 09-01-2017 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 23613)
What exactly is better about this years team than the last 2'years 8 win teams?

Serious question. Because from where I sit, there is NOTHING better about this years team and quite a bit that is worse.

The only things I see better for the Colts this year than last is the running game overall with Mack should be better and the D is creating more turnovers, seems to be more creative to get more pressure on the QB.

Other than that, nothing.

I think it has POTENTIAL for the secondary to be better with Hooker and Wilson, Farley and Davis once they are all healthy and adjusted to the NFL game and the D, but that isn't likely to be mid season at the earliest.

The O-line is worse with Ryan injured

QB is much worse until Luck is back

I see no improvement in the LBers, just new faces, same story

The special teams is worse without McAfee

The WRs don't matter much until Luck is back

The DL as well, no better than last year.

Kray007 09-01-2017 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 23613)
What exactly is better about this years team than the last 2'years 8 win teams?

Serious question. Because from where I sit, there is NOTHING better about this years team and quite a bit that is worse.

1) Andrew Luck should be healthier.
2) If Mewhort can play, the OL should be improved over the 2015 squad.
3) Marlon Mack brings a big play potential to RB.
4) Al Woods is a far better NT than David Parry.
5) Ditto Jonathan Hankins at DT.
6) John Simon looks like a legit pass rusher at OLB.
7) Hooker brings the kind of big play potential to the position that we haven't seen since Bob Sanders was suiting up.
8) Quincy Wilson is certainly better than, either Greg Toler or Jalil Brown.
9) 2015's OL depth chart listed Gosder Cherilus, Hugh Thornton and Khaled Holmes as starters.
10) The DL was Zach Kerr, Josh Chapman, and Arthur Jones.

omahacolt 09-02-2017 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 23617)
1) Andrew Luck should be healthier.
2) If Mewhort can play, the OL should be improved over the 2015 squad.
3) Marlon Mack brings a big play potential to RB.
4) Al Woods is a far better NT than David Parry.
5) Ditto Jonathan Hankins at DT.
6) John Simon looks like a legit pass rusher at OLB.
7) Hooker brings the kind of big play potential to the position that we haven't seen since Bob Sanders was suiting up.
8) Quincy Wilson is certainly better than, either Greg Toler or Jalil Brown.
9) 2015's OL depth chart listed Gosder Cherilus, Hugh Thornton and Khaled Holmes as starters.
10) The DL was Zach Kerr, Josh Chapman, and Arthur Jones.

Someone is optimistic

Hoopsdoc 09-02-2017 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 23616)
The only things I see better for the Colts this year than last is the running game overall with Mack should be better and the D is creating more turnovers, seems to be more creative to get more pressure on the QB.

Other than that, nothing.

I think it has POTENTIAL for the secondary to be better with Hooker and Wilson, Farley and Davis once they are all healthy and adjusted to the NFL game and the D, but that isn't likely to be mid season at the earliest.

The O-line is worse with Ryan injured

QB is much worse until Luck is back

I see no improvement in the LBers, just new faces, same story

The special teams is worse without McAfee

The WRs don't matter much until Luck is back

The DL as well, no better than last year.

They won't give Mack enough carries to make a difference. And the turnovers won't be sustainable.

This team is destined for a losing season.

I hope I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure I'm not.

smitty46953 09-02-2017 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 23630)
Someone is optimistic

I had no idea that optimistic was in your vocabulary ... :cool:

apballin 09-02-2017 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 23613)
What exactly is better about this years team than the last 2'years 8 win teams?

Serious question. Because from where I sit, there is NOTHING better about this years team and quite a bit that is worse.

The defense has got to be better, the Offense has always been able to score

Has anybody looked at the schedule?

This team can go 3-0 without Luck

Dam8610 09-02-2017 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 23613)
What exactly is better about this years team than the last 2'years 8 win teams?

Serious question. Because from where I sit, there is NOTHING better about this years team and quite a bit that is worse.

The defense is better overall if only because they're not nearly as old and slow.

omahacolt 09-02-2017 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 23876)
The defense is better overall if only because they're not nearly as old and slow.

that is yet to be seen

pass rush could be worse. the secondary could be worse. the lbers could be worse

Dam8610 09-02-2017 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 23878)
that is yet to be seen

pass rush could be worse. the secondary could be worse. the lbers could be worse

LB corps went from worst in the league by a large margin to average-slightly below average, that's a huge upgrade. Secondary is younger, faster, and has more playmaking ability. John Simon appears to be a better pass rusher than anything this team had last year. And the DL, which you didn't mention, gets a fully healthy Henry Anderson along with upgrades in talent at the other positions. I can't see a way this defense could be worse than last year's unit.


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