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rm1369 03-16-2022 07:20 AM

I’m not terribly excited about Mayfield - he has plenty of concerns. But assuming Carr isn’t an option, he’s probably the best “win now” option available to the Colts. If they pull the trigger Ballard is going to have to open the purse strings and address the other major issues on the roster though, otherwise it makes no sense. You get one year to evaluate him. Don’t half ass it.

TheMugwump 03-16-2022 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 226162)
Can you see the Death Star on the horizon

That's no moon!

ChoppedWood 03-16-2022 07:32 AM

I suppose one good thing about Baker coming here, it will mean that by probably mid November, a new coach and GM will be named in Indy which will make me happy. The team will be screwed for years and years of course and guys like Nelson and Leonard will be old and grey by the time we have any sort of rebound, Taylor and Pittman will very likely refuse a 2nd contracts with us, but at least we won't still have the cheapskate and reclamation man to have to overcome every single year.

Racehorse 03-16-2022 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 226145)
I got a bad feeling about this.

Han Solo, is that you?

Dam8610 03-16-2022 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 226159)
Of the options on the table, if you add his name he’s the best option

I’ll take a pissed off Baker

I'd still go with Jameis Winston who will cost nothing but money.

Racehorse 03-16-2022 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 226178)
I'd still go with Jameis Winston who will cost nothing but money.

That is where I am. Baker may be a little better, but the costs would be much higher. Winston or another FA is my preference.

apballin 03-16-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 226178)
I'd still go with Jameis Winston who will cost nothing but money.

Coming off an ACL has never won anything and can I emphasize…..

Holds the ball waaayyyy to goddamit long

Lov2fish 03-16-2022 10:10 AM

Of the shitty list of QB's I would take Baker over any of them, but that is a double edged sword, the rest suck. Until we get a left tackle, WR, a true pass rusher and a few other holes, along with some depth it doesn't matter who is slinging the ball around, we will be mediocre. If they bring Mayfield in and we don't win at least 12 games next year, fuck it, blow it up and start trading for draft picks and start this thing over. Every year we are middle of the road, the older our tradable guys get and value goes down.

Racehorse 03-16-2022 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 226185)
Of the shitty list of QB's I would take Baker over any of them, but that is a double edged sword, the rest suck. Until we get a left tackle, WR, a true pass rusher and a few other holes, along with some depth it doesn't matter who is slinging the ball around, we will be mediocre. If they bring Mayfield in and we don't win at least 12 games next year, fuck it, blow it up and start trading for draft picks and start this thing over. Every year we are middle of the road, the older our tradable guys get and value goes down.

I hate the thought of blowing it all up, but sometimes you have to go backwards in order to move forward. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

Ironshaft 03-16-2022 10:43 AM

All the Colts need is a solid QB who can run the system, not make many mistakes and occasionally push the ball down the field to back the defenders off of JT.

Career Numbers:

62.0% Completion / 204-118 TD-INT / 5.9% sack rate / 237.5 YPG / 87.5 QBR / 35 years old / Dalton
59.4% Completion / 186-113 TD-INT / 6.8% sack rate / 223.5 YPG / 85.4 QBR / 33 years old / Newton
61.3% Completion / 121-088 TD-INT / 6.2% sack rate / 274.1 YPG / 86.9 QBR / 28 years old / Winston
62.9% Completion / 076-044 TD-INT / 8.1% sack rate / 209.6 YPG / 89.6 QBR / 29 years old / Mariota
61.6% Completion / 092-056 TD-INT / 6.5% sack rate / 235.4 YPG / 87.8 QBR / 27 years old / Mayfield

From the stats, Dalton and Winston are the best of the bunch. Baker delivers nothing over Winston (or even Mariota) except for being a couple of years younger.

Regardless, all of these guys are a 1, 2 or 3 year band aid for the Colts. None can carry a team by being even an "average" QB. Please don't trade away picks to get another Carson Wentz.


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