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Oldcolt 02-07-2022 06:39 PM
I would love to get some value out of that second rounder we used on Banogu

Brylok 02-07-2022 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 223216)
Pass rush from the LB spot. Moves the line around to some 3 down lineman and the LEO or 4 down and the extra pass rusher. More evidence Ballard has always wanted the Seattle style D. He said it back in 2019 I think

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...w-does-it-work
Y'all know FAR more than I do about technique, schemes, x's and o's, etc, than I do. I always learn stuff here.

HoosierinFL 02-08-2022 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 223203)
It wasn't an official announcement or anything. I read Colts stuff from several places: here, dotcom, stampede blue, Colts reddit (r/Colts), and various Twitter accounts from Colts related people (Keefer, Holder, Chappell, Wells, Bremer, Doyle, Bowen, Kravitz, etc). So it was somewhere in those. I just kinda rolled my eyes when I read that and kept scrolling. Keefer I'm sure mentioned the LOB. Others did too but I don't remember where it was specifically. I just thought it was weird and cringeworthy.
Those people are all full of it. Bradley has barely been on the job a few days and suddenly these guys think they know exactly what he's going to do with these various players.

HoosierinFL 02-08-2022 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 223210)
In that reddit thread it was suggested that he didn't fit into Eberflus' scheme and was left on the bench. He's supposed to fill the LEO/Joker spot under Bradley... whatever that means. I don't know...
So I've just done some reading on this LEO defense, and while Banogu could maybe fill that LEO role, where does that leave Kwity Paye?

As I understand the LEO defensive line, Stewart could be the 1 tech, Buckner the 3 tech, and LEO rushes from the weakside and you need a "Big End" as the 5 tech (or sometimes 6-tech) on the strong side. This "Big End" would be built more like a DT, than an edge-rushing DE.

So it seems more likely to me that Odeyingbo, listed as 25 lbs heavier than Paye, would play the Big End role and Paye (backed up by Turay? or Banogu) becomes the LEO. Odeyingbo would be playing the same role that Joey Bosa played in the Chargers defense when Bradley was there, and Paye would be in the Melvin Ingram role.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-08-2022 11:28 AM
Looks like Bradley has his DB Coach on board.

https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/st...88554838089733

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New Colts DC Gus Bradley is still working on his staff, but as of now, it looks likely former Raiders DBs coach Ron Milus will join him in Indy.

Milus is highly regarded. Has coached Eric Weddle, Jason Verrett, Derwin James, Casey Hayward Jr and Desmond King, among others.

Brylok 02-08-2022 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 223245)
Those people are all full of it. Bradley has barely been on the job a few days and suddenly these guys think they know exactly what he's going to do with these various players.
Honestly, I'm just bored and reporting what I've read. Personally, I'm down on Ballard, Reich, and the Colts in general. I don't think we'll win the division or a playoff game next season, and I'm just looking for some hope. And this board is usually dead as a doornail and boring during the off season.

Brylok 02-08-2022 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 223246)
So I've just done some reading on this LEO defense, and while Banogu could maybe fill that LEO role, where does that leave Kwity Paye?

As I understand the LEO defensive line, Stewart could be the 1 tech, Buckner the 3 tech, and LEO rushes from the weakside and you need a "Big End" as the 5 tech (or sometimes 6-tech) on the strong side. This "Big End" would be built more like a DT, than an edge-rushing DE.

So it seems more likely to me that Odeyingbo, listed as 25 lbs heavier than Paye, would play the Big End role and Paye (backed up by Turay? or Banogu) becomes the LEO. Odeyingbo would be playing the same role that Joey Bosa played in the Chargers defense when Bradley was there, and Paye would be in the Melvin Ingram role.
I'm definitely NOT a technical/scheme/x and o's guy. I leave that to y'all who know about that sort of stuff. I just watch the games and try to learn from those of you with knowledge of the technical things.

JAFF 02-08-2022 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 223246)
So I've just done some reading on this LEO defense, and while Banogu could maybe fill that LEO role, where does that leave Kwity Paye?

As I understand the LEO defensive line, Stewart could be the 1 tech, Buckner the 3 tech, and LEO rushes from the weakside and you need a "Big End" as the 5 tech (or sometimes 6-tech) on the strong side. This "Big End" would be built more like a DT, than an edge-rushing DE.

So it seems more likely to me that Odeyingbo, listed as 25 lbs heavier than Paye, would play the Big End role and Paye (backed up by Turay? or Banogu) becomes the LEO. Odeyingbo would be playing the same role that Joey Bosa played in the Chargers defense when Bradley was there, and Paye would be in the Melvin Ingram role.
Paye is athletic, quick and strong. Freeney could have played it, with his speed, so its not as if its one size fit. Paye has a good motor, he needs more coaching on how to play the outside. Paye played inside often at Michigan. How would it look if they stepped him down to DT and put Bruckner at RDE?

Puck 02-08-2022 05:26 PM
Maybe this will help

https://twitter.com/ZachHicks2/statu...aiRm6mtGK7UV9w

Puck 02-08-2022 05:34 PM
I also asked Lawrence Owen @Colts_Law to do a breakdown for us


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