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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 186901)

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No, I didn't.

The subject of my post was opposing coaches and players gift-wrapping Brady crucial touchdowns, not referees.

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 186906)

I understand that, but Reid's timeout decisions would've been irrelevant without the penalties from the refs that were questionable at best.

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Reid's timeout decisions were insane on their own, especially the 2nd one. The Buccaneers had 2nd and 10 after the first timeout, and 3rd and a short 2 after the 2nd timeout. The first timeout was moderately risky, the 2nd timeout was inexcusable and inexplicable. That's not irrelevant, that's absolutely atrocious decision-making by a head coach.

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 186904)

I agree for the most part but lets not forget that all (most?) of his superbowl wins came on the back of strong defensive teams. I would say your 70% is too high. JMO.

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I was pulling numbers outta my ass just to make a point. It's probably closer to 50, 40, 10. The NFL itself helped them out a lot, but I didn't figure that in because nobody knows the extent of the help there. I never thought I'd defend Tom Brady...

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 186903)

I don't even have that anymore. That rivalry is so far in the rear-view mirror now, I don't even care. I hate New England and their fans, but Brady is just a douche-bag. Ten Super Bowl appearances with seven wins is never going to happen again, let alone ever be broken. Turns out "The Patriot Way" was 70% Brady being great (and taking less $), 25% BB finding diamond in the rough guys who all turned into gold, and 5% actual cheating/shenanigans.

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 186904)

I agree for the most part but lets not forget that all (most?) of his Super Bowl wins came on the back of strong defensive teams. I would say that your 70% is too high ...... JMO.

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Same here, as I think that Belichick is considerably more deserving for his teams' successes than 25%. I've pointed out before that when Tom Brady missed an entire season with an injury in 2008, the Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassel at quarterback. The only reason why they did not make the playoffs that year was because the AFC was stacked that season (as it was this season.) It was the antithesis of when Peyton Manning missed the entire 2011 season with an injury, and the Colts wound up going 2-14. The 2020 Colts were in the same exact position as were those 2008 Patriots, but were fortunate that a #7 seed was added to the NFL post-season tournament for the first time ever.

The title of this article alone exemplifies the 2008 season for Belichick's Brady-less Patriots.

The 2008 Patriots Will Forever be Bill Belichick’s True Masterpiece

(By Michael Self)

http://draftamerica.com/the-2008-pat...e-masterpiece/

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