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Racehorse 06-21-2022 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 232999)
You sound like an educator.

I teach high school kids. I see this every day.

Hoopsdoc 06-26-2022 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 232837)
A group of people tried to force the V President of the US to change the results of a legal election. Its sedition and an insurrection, as a group of people attacked federal authorities, caused property damage and and killed officers of the law.

AND the piss poor attempt to cover their tracks, since none of them understand that emails are forever. BTW, thats where they left a trail of conspiracy, dumbassery, and prayers for a pardon.

Not an insurrection? Why where the conspirators asking for pardons?

No officers of the law were killed on 1-6.

One died of a heart attack, if I’m not mistaken.

omahacolt 06-28-2022 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 232821)
CNN is the laughing stock of media outlets. It was not an insurrection. It was a riot, yes. It nowhere nearly met the criteria to be considered an insurrection. This was merely a witch hunt on Trump, which I could give a shit less about. CNN and a few others keep calling this something it wasn't.

they clearly tried to stop the results of the election. there is no debating that.

what do you call that?

omahacolt 06-28-2022 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 233009)
I teach high school kids. I see this every day.

props to you sir


good posts here. kids need help. a lot of them aren't getting it at home

JAFF 06-29-2022 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 233216)
No officers of the law were killed on 1-6.

One died of a heart attack, if I’m not mistaken.

These Are the People Who Died in Connection With the Capitol Riot
A bipartisan Senate report found that at least seven people had lost their lives in connection with the Jan. 6 attack.

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A memorial in Washington last year for Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob storming the Capitol last Jan. 6.
A memorial in Washington last year for Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob storming the Capitol last Jan. 6.Credit...Anna Moneymaker for The New York Times

Chris Cameron
By Chris Cameron
Published Jan. 5, 2022
Updated June 23, 2022
Follow live updates on the House committee hearing on the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

WASHINGTON — As a pro-Trump protest turned into a violent attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6 last year, four people in the crowd died.

Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer as rioters tried to breach the House chamber.

Kevin D. Greeson died of a heart attack, collapsing on the sidewalk west of the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Rosanne Boyland appeared to have been crushed in a stampede of fellow rioters as they surged against the police.

Benjamin Philips, the founder of a pro-Trump website called Trumparoo, died of a stroke.

Mr. Greeson and Mr. Philips died of natural causes, the Washington medical examiner said in April. He added that Ms. Boyland’s death was caused by an accidental overdose.

In the days and weeks after the riot, five police officers who had served at the Capitol on Jan. 6 died.

Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob, died on Jan. 7.

Officer Jeffrey Smith of the Metropolitan Police Department killed himself after the attack.

Officer Howard S. Liebengood of the Capitol Police also died by suicide four days afterward.

The Capitol Police had previously said that Officer Sicknick died from injuries sustained “while physically engaging with protesters.” The Washington medical examiner later ruled that he had died of natural causes: multiple strokes that occurred hours after Officer Sicknick’s confrontation with the mob. The medical examiner added, however, that “all that transpired played a role in his condition.”

A bipartisan Senate report, released in June, found that the seven deaths were connected to the Capitol attack. But the report was issued a month before two Metropolitan Police officers — Gunther Hashida and Kyle DeFreytag — died by suicide in July.
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The police agencies have not classified the four total suicides as “line of duty” deaths that would provide the victims’ families with enhanced benefits. Washington law excludes suicide deaths from the line-of-duty designation.
About 150 officers from the Capitol Police, the Metropolitan Police Department and local agencies were injured, and hundreds of workers were traumatized by the mob.

In its final report, the House select committee investigating Jan. 6 could mention an official death toll from the violence.

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Democratic lawmakers have sought to include the police suicides as deaths that occurred in connection with Jan. 6. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Democrat of New York, said on Twitter in October that the Capitol riot was “a terror attack” that left “almost 10 dead,” a toll that apparently included the four suicides.

Other Democratic members of Congress have lobbied for the police suicides to be designated as line-of-duty deaths. Senators Mark Warner and Tim Kaine, and Representatives Jennifer Wexton and Donald S. Beyer Jr., all Democrats of Virginia, wrote to Mayor Muriel E. Bowser of Washington in October asking that Officer Smith be granted a line-of-duty death designation.

Hoopsdoc 06-29-2022 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233305)
These Are the People Who Died in Connection With the Capitol Riot
A bipartisan Senate report found that at least seven people had lost their lives in connection with the Jan. 6 attack.

Give this article

A memorial in Washington last year for Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob storming the Capitol last Jan. 6.
A memorial in Washington last year for Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob storming the Capitol last Jan. 6.Credit...Anna Moneymaker for The New York Times

Chris Cameron
By Chris Cameron
Published Jan. 5, 2022
Updated June 23, 2022
Follow live updates on the House committee hearing on the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

WASHINGTON — As a pro-Trump protest turned into a violent attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6 last year, four people in the crowd died.

Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer as rioters tried to breach the House chamber.

Kevin D. Greeson died of a heart attack, collapsing on the sidewalk west of the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Rosanne Boyland appeared to have been crushed in a stampede of fellow rioters as they surged against the police.

Benjamin Philips, the founder of a pro-Trump website called Trumparoo, died of a stroke.

Mr. Greeson and Mr. Philips died of natural causes, the Washington medical examiner said in April. He added that Ms. Boyland’s death was caused by an accidental overdose.

In the days and weeks after the riot, five police officers who had served at the Capitol on Jan. 6 died.

Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob, died on Jan. 7.

Officer Jeffrey Smith of the Metropolitan Police Department killed himself after the attack.

Officer Howard S. Liebengood of the Capitol Police also died by suicide four days afterward.

The Capitol Police had previously said that Officer Sicknick died from injuries sustained “while physically engaging with protesters.” The Washington medical examiner later ruled that he had died of natural causes: multiple strokes that occurred hours after Officer Sicknick’s confrontation with the mob. The medical examiner added, however, that “all that transpired played a role in his condition.”

A bipartisan Senate report, released in June, found that the seven deaths were connected to the Capitol attack. But the report was issued a month before two Metropolitan Police officers — Gunther Hashida and Kyle DeFreytag — died by suicide in July.
ADVERTISEMENT
Continue reading the main story

The police agencies have not classified the four total suicides as “line of duty” deaths that would provide the victims’ families with enhanced benefits. Washington law excludes suicide deaths from the line-of-duty designation.
About 150 officers from the Capitol Police, the Metropolitan Police Department and local agencies were injured, and hundreds of workers were traumatized by the mob.

In its final report, the House select committee investigating Jan. 6 could mention an official death toll from the violence.

Dig deeper into the moment.
Special offer: Subscribe for $1 a week.
Democratic lawmakers have sought to include the police suicides as deaths that occurred in connection with Jan. 6. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Democrat of New York, said on Twitter in October that the Capitol riot was “a terror attack” that left “almost 10 dead,” a toll that apparently included the four suicides.

Other Democratic members of Congress have lobbied for the police suicides to be designated as line-of-duty deaths. Senators Mark Warner and Tim Kaine, and Representatives Jennifer Wexton and Donald S. Beyer Jr., all Democrats of Virginia, wrote to Mayor Muriel E. Bowser of Washington in October asking that Officer Smith be granted a line-of-duty death designation.

Like I said, no officers of the law were killed on January 6th.

One died of natural causes.

Thanks for confirming.

JAFF 06-29-2022 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 233323)
Like I said, no officers of the law were killed on January 6th.

One died of natural causes.

Thanks for confirming.

From the above:


The Capitol Police had previously said that Officer Sicknick died from injuries sustained “while physically engaging with protesters.” The Washington medical examiner later ruled that he had died of natural causes: multiple strokes that occurred hours after Officer Sicknick’s confrontation with the mob.

The medical examiner added, however, that “all that transpired played a role in his condition.”

Hoopsdoc 06-29-2022 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233327)
From the above:


The Capitol Police had previously said that Officer Sicknick died from injuries sustained “while physically engaging with protesters.” The Washington medical examiner later ruled that he had died of natural causes: multiple strokes that occurred hours after Officer Sicknick’s confrontation with the mob.

The medical examiner added, however, that “all that transpired played a role in his condition.”

Right, I can read.

“All that transpired played a role” is pretty thin gruel for arguing murder, especially since the ME had already deemed it natural causes. No prosecutor in the land would file a charge based on that kind of specious reasoning.

Like I said, no officers of the law were killed on 1-6.

JAFF 06-29-2022 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 233331)
Right, I can read.

“All that transpired played a role” is pretty thin gruel for arguing murder, especially since the ME had already deemed it natural causes. No prosecutor in the land would file a charge based on that kind of specious reasoning.

Like I said, no officers of the law were killed on 1-6.

Getting the shit beat out of him lead to his stroke. Keep telling yourself a fairy tale

Lov2fish 06-29-2022 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 233295)
they clearly tried to stop the results of the election. there is no debating that.

what do you call that?

It was a rebellion, unsuccessful one, but a rebellion, not an insurrection, and fuck Trump, and fuck Biden even harder.


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