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Chaka 10-12-2020 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 171994)
We're in QB hell now and I know I'll get flamed/bantered for it, but I still blame Andrew Luck. If he hadn't quit, we'd be undefeated. He alone, well, along with Frank firing Dave DeG because he was too strick/mean/used profanity. That firing ruined the O-line. No QB on the roster. O-line gone soft. Young, promising defense with talent, a very questionable scheme, and no ultimte purpose. Welcome to the Indiana Pacers (who I stopped watching after the 1999/2000 finals. They have zero chance to ever win a championship). I'll keep watching, but I'm glad I don't pay money for this team.

PS: Do not throw Eason in. You'll ruin him outright like Josh Rosen

Maybe Luck will unretire. Probably not, but it's certainly not out of the question. And don't tell me you wouldn't forgive him, because you would.

Dam8610 10-13-2020 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 171994)
We're in QB hell now and I know I'll get flamed/bantered for it, but I still blame Andrew Luck. If he hadn't quit, we'd be undefeated. He alone, well, along with Frank firing Dave DeG because he was too strick/mean/used profanity. That firing ruined the O-line. No QB on the roster. O-line gone soft. Young, promising defense with talent, a very questionable scheme, and no ultimte purpose. Welcome to the Indiana Pacers (who I stopped watching after the 1999/2000 finals. They have zero chance to ever win a championship). I'll keep watching, but I'm glad I don't pay money for this team.

PS: Do not throw Eason in. You'll ruin him outright like Josh Rosen

The Colts don't get Buckner if Luck doesn't retire. Maybe you can have the best of both worlds and he'll come back (unlikely), but Luck would've taken last year's team to the playoffs and would have this team in strong Super Bowl contention.

Hopefully there's another Russell Wilson out there.
For context, Russell Wilson was my #2 QB in 2012, and until they cut Peyton, there was a scenario I'd hoped for in vain where some team gave up a king's ransom for the #1 overall pick, the Colts finally built a defense for Peyton Manning, and drafted Wilson at the top of Round 2 or 3. With the benefit of hindsight, this obviously would've been the best choice. Maybe Trey Lance is that guy, but I don't have the confidence in him that I had in Wilson just watching film. He seems like more of a scrambler than a pocket QB with great speed and athleticism, which was how Wilson looked on film. Then again, that is the direction the NFL is moving in, so maybe that is to his benefit.

njcoltfan 10-13-2020 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 171980)
No. I think they will and should stick with rivers. He gives them the best chance to win based on our QB choices.

I thought rivers would be better for us than brissett but didnt have any illusions that he would lead us to a championship. Maybe thats eason at some point, maybe not.


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If not, then this team will be in QB hell for at least 4-5 years !! Average play equals average draft position. I was a big Andrew Luck fan, but boy did he really fuck up this franchise !!!

Hoopsdoc 10-13-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 172015)
If not, then this team will be in QB hell for at least 4-5 years !! Average play equals average draft position. I was a big Andrew Luck fan, but boy did he really fuck up this franchise !!!

I’m still an Andrew Luck fan but he most certainly f****d the franchise hard.

albany ed 10-13-2020 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 171980)
No. I think they will and should stick with rivers. He gives them the best chance to win based on our QB choices.

I thought rivers would be better for us than brissett but didnt have any illusions that he would lead us to a championship. Maybe thats eason at some point, maybe not.


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So, for 25 million dollars for one season, what did you expect?

Maniac 10-13-2020 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 171976)
Keep in mind Rivers is exactly 5 games into his Colts career, with all new teammates.

People have to stop viewing the offense in a vacuum. Can Rivers play better, yes, but so can the O-Line, the RB's, the TE's and WR's.

These guys have probably had a 3rd of the reps (pre-pandemic) that that would have had entering a season at this point. For a new QB, playing with new teammates that's important.

Those who want Brissett are asinine. Two throws from this game that Brissett doesn't even attempt are the throws to Johnson and Dulin. In fact he probably takes a sack.

Yes, but staring down receivers is rookie level mistakes that shouldn't be happening in year 50 of a QB's career, no matter the system, or new players. Don't fucking do that.

rcubed 10-13-2020 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 172015)
If not, then this team will be in QB hell for at least 4-5 years !! Average play equals average draft position. I was a big Andrew Luck fan, but boy did he really fuck up this franchise !!!


Yep. This organization doesn’t have a tank mentality and we are good enough not to get a top pick. Thus they will and should play the best QB option, which is rivers this year. Unfortunately that will most likely mean we will be in the middle of the pack again. Worst place to draft


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rcubed 10-13-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 172028)
So, for 25 million dollars for one season, what did you expect?


Pretty much what we got. Rivers has always played this way, good enough to get excited but often a let down in the end. Living in southern california I have seen enough chargers games to expect that. Not sure what the money has to do with it.


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albany ed 10-13-2020 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 172035)
Pretty much what we got. Rivers has always played this way, good enough to get excited but often a let down in the end. Living in southern california I have seen enough chargers games to expect that. Not sure what the money has to do with it.


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The money? I'm thinking you should get what you paid for. Rivers is getting top 5 QB money, and the only thing he's in the top 5 for QBs is INTs. I didn't expect that he was going to lead us to the Super Bowl, but in that last game, he looked done. Another performance like that and it becomes the norm and not just a bad game.

Brylok 10-13-2020 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 172003)
Maybe Luck will unretire. Probably not, but it's certainly not out of the question. And don't tell me you wouldn't forgive him, because you would.

Perhaps if he came in like Superman and got us to the playoffs consistently. But even if I forgave him, I'd never trust him again. It doesn't matter anyway since he's not coming back.


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