I agree. I’ve been alternating between pessimistic worrying and cautious optimism.

I like that Reich is backing him 100 percent and I trust his judgment on that. I think Reich has earned that. Now it’s time for Vinny to reward that trust.

There's no doubt if any player perhaps in NFL history deserves the benefit of the doubt after a couple bad games it's AV. I hope he has a great game Sunday and for the rest of the season and can cap off an awful start with his usual greatness.

That said, it'll still be nerve wracking watching him kick this year, at least until he reels off a bunch of makes.

Devils advocate: what if it continues? How many misses will push it over the edge?


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He has one more, if he fsks it up, Ballard will let him retire or cut him. Adam knows, he will quit when he thinks he has no more to offer.

I'm surprised that isn't coming now, but it he kicks perfect vs Falcons, well shit

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Well, he didn't retire, so I hope he has a great day this Sunday and then for the rest of the year as well. But personally, I think his time has come. I hope, I hope hard that I'm wrong, but I just don't like seeing the great ones have embarrassing finishes.

AV is speaking with the media right now. Jim has a few grammar errors and misspelled words - including Vinatieri - but I think he is hurriedly tweeting this info out as it is coming....


https://twitter.com/jimayello/status...91632041103362

https://twitter.com/jimayello/status...91295494303745

https://twitter.com/jimayello/status...92490082492417

https://twitter.com/jimayello/status...91849482182656

https://twitter.com/jimayello/status...92908065783809

https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1173991805936984067

So, he hasn’t even considered retirement. That’s a little surprising to me.

It tells me that he’s not quitting and if this continues, he’ll have to be cut. I dont want to see that.

Love his mental attitude. Not even considering quitting, not feeling sorry for himself or making excuses. Makes me root hard for him to turn this around

Colts working out a bunch of kickers, including Elliott Fry, Cody Parkey, Younghoe Koo, Greg Joseph, Cole Hedlund and Chase McLaughlin

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/statu...75550232653825

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(vs. RAIDERS, 9/29)


Vinatieri looked pretty good for the 2nd consecutive game yesterday afternoon.

He did sneak one of the 3 extra points that he successfully kicked just inside the left upright, but he also had plenty of leg on a 57-yard FG attempt late in the 2nd quarter that fell just a bit to the left of the upright.



At halftime of the season opener against the Chargers, Frank Reich said that Vinatieri was the last person on the team that he was worried about in regard to his struggles ........ that's beginning to look like not such a far-fetched proclamation.


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(vs. CHIEFS, 10/6)


Vinatieri was 5-for-5 on all of his attempts combined tonight ........ 4-for-4 on field goals, and 1-for-1 on an extra point attempt.



The low-scoring, defensive game was somewhat reminiscent of when the Colts beat the Ravens in the playoffs 13 years ago in 2006, when our kicker's 5 field goals accounted for all of the team's points in a 15-6 win. The kicker on that 2006 Colts team was ........ Adam Vinatieri.




Vinatieri's 5 Field Goals Kick Colts Past Ravens

(Houston Chronicle News Services)

https://www.chron.com/sports/texans/...ns-1555013.php


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In the eternal words of Ad-Rock, “Kick it!”

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“In a strange way before the game started yesterday, I was kind of hoping it came down to a 60-yard field goal to win the game,” Reich said. “I’m hoping that that’s going to happen one of these games and he’s the guy — there’s nobody else I’d trust more than I would trust Adam Vinatieri.”


Frank Reich, right after Vinatieri had his 2nd consecutive bad game, in mid-September.



https://www.cbs17.com/sports/reich-s...y-season-woes/




Well, something similar to Reich's proposed scenario just happened ........ right before halftime of their game against the Broncos, Vinatieri booted a 55-yard field goal right down the middle to give the Colts a much-needed boost heading into the locker room.


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JINX :rolleyes:

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I know, I jinxed him.

Some jerk-off Colts fan from New York State has power as to whether or not a place-kicker makes or misses his attempts. He would have made it if I had just not said anything.

I also believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy.


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LOL :cool:

Santa Claus is real. It's by Ferdinand

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Thank you Broncos, for bailing the Colts out of a stupid move of their own.


With only 32 seconds left to play in the 4th quarter, the Colts foolishly ran the ball on 3rd down ........ they had 0 timeouts, and you (obviously) cannot spike the ball on 4th down. Consequently, with the clock running, the Colts would have had to rush their special-teams squad out there, get set, and attempt the field goal with the clock dwindling down.


But that didn't happen, because the Broncos pulled a Jim Caldwell ........ they called a timeout at the most inopportune time for them.


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I believe Dungy did the same thing the day Rob Bironas hit the 60 yarder to beat us.

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That was a somewhat different situation.

Today, there was no doubt as to what the Colts were going to do ........ attempt a field goal.

In that game 13 years ago the game was tied, and Jeff Fisher and Tony Dungy engaged in a chess game in the final seconds of that final drive that culminated in that improbable 60-yard field goal. Fisher had planned to attempt the field goal with 12 seconds left in the game, but thought better of it and decided to punt. But when Dungy used the Colts’ final timeout with Tennessee’s punt team on the field, Fisher changed his mind and sent the field goal unit back in the game. Had Bironas missed that 60-yard attempt prior to Dungy using his final timeout, the Colts (with a timeout still in their pocket) would have had the ball at midfield, and a chance to win the game themselves ........ “If we don’t make the kick, there are 7 seconds left, they’ve got a timeout, and he completes a pass of 15 yards, they are taking a shot at the field goal themsleves,” Fisher said. “ So I sent the punt team out there.”



https://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/04/s.../04titans.html




Finally, after the game Dungy at least conceded that the timeout call may have been a mistake that was his fault, but there were numerous other factors at play in that situation that was not the case with Caldwell in those 2 situations in 2010 (against the Texans in the regular season, and against the Jets in the Wildcard playoff game), or with the Broncos this afternoon ......... “I called the timeout because we were trying to get situated, and that’s probably my fault,” Dungy said. “I didn’t want to have 12 men on the field and give them 5 more yards.”


So even though there were additional circumstances that made Dungy's timeout call at least somewhat plausible, he (Dungy) at least held himself accountable immediately after the game, and the put the decision on himself ........ Caldwell, on the other hand, defiantly said that if he had to do it all over again he would not have changed anything.


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You jinxed him into being named AFC Special Teams Player of the Week. ;)

I guess the two makes from beyond 50 yards (with one of them being the game winner) had more weight than the misses for this particular honor.

There have been a lot of misses by PK's this year....the Cheats are already on their third kicker now and the season is only about halfway over!


https://www.colts.com/news/adam-vina...denver-broncos

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"When you believe in things that you don't understand, and then you suffer ........ superstition ain't the way."



Stevie Wonder, 1972


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Nothing wrong with being superstitious about football. Many of us are.

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There is nothing wrong with being superstitious.

There is something wrong with somebody if they actually believe that superstitious beliefs/actions have an effect on what does or does not happen in a sporting event.


So if superstitious beliefs/actions are a cute little game that people like to play to pass the time, fine. When somebody actually gets annoyed with me (or anyone else for that matter) over some twisted notion that there is a correlation between something that I said and what actually happens in life, that's where I draw the line and remind said person that they are out of touch with reality.


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I'm not superstitious, just stitious.

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(vs. STEELERS, 11/03)


Vinatieri had a bad game.

Of perhaps modest interest is the fact that he has been more sound at 50-plus yards than on shorter kicks so far this season ........ he is 2-for-3 from that range, and the one that he missed was a 57-yarder that had plenty of leg, but was just off to the left.

That said, he has been very bad at 40-49 yards, which are also relatively long attempts.




EXTRA POINTS: lll 14 - for - 19


FG, 20-29: lllllllllllll, 4 - for - 5


FG, 30-39: lllllllllllll, 3 - for - 3


FG, 40-49: lllllllllllll) 3 - for - 6


FG, 50-59: llllllllllll,, 2 - for - 3


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Laces out Marino!

It's certainly not all on AV. Rigo should have gotten the laces out yes. For some reason he didn't even attempt to spin it and I think I know why.

Rhodes snaps are very slow getting to the attended target, whether that be the holder or the punter. I'm assuming, and it looked to me like Rigo just did not have time to spin it.

To me the real issue is that so many games come down to the kicker

It doesn't matter which direction the laces are if you kick the dirt before the football. That's on Vinatieri

Agree, the laces were irrelevant. He shanked it, it was a bad miss.

It sucks, vinatieri is the elephant in the room that cost us being a 7 and 1 team.

No other kicker in the league would still be starting.

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eh, it could be argued that Robbie Gould is having a slightly worse season and he is still starting. Gould is only 13 of 20 on field goals for a 65% make rate. With today's game added into the stats, Vinny is at a 71% make rate. One difference is that the 49'ers as a team are rolling right now. Kicking is an after thought for now.

Both players are struggling compared to their past performance - even just comparing their stats to their 2018 numbers.

It's almost like a Bears forum.

Yep, Sanchez fucked up, but the foot in the turf fucked it first.

My thoughts also! Why, after getting into field goal range, do you just run the ball up the gut 3 times and then try for the field goal, especially this year with Vinnies problems.

Adam Vinatieri
 

Because last week it worked.

AV should probably retire after this year.


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Exactly. The end of the Denver game was very similar (except the outcome). Reich explained his rationale for "going conservative" in that situation. He was worried about going backwards and losing yardage. There could be a pass protection issue and the QB is sacked. Or more probable (especially this year), the zebras litter the field with flags on the play and call a penalty and the team loses yardage. Officiating has been so inconsistent this year - once flags are thrown, it is hard to know how they are going to rule on the play. Even with challenges and video review, the calls have been inconsistent.

You want to run the clock down so that the Steelers have insufficient time to get a field goal after the Colts took the lead. If they could have gotten 1 more first down, they could have run the clock down to almost 0 and then AV would kick the winning FG. They were already in AV's range, he just shit the bed. Laces in, laces out, he just shit the bed. It happens, its just that at 46, it's happening a lot and this HAS to be his last year.

Just did some quick math. Hoyer was 17 for 26 totaling 168 yards. He was also sacked 4 times for -34 yards. So, in 30 drop backs, he totaled 134 net yards for an average of 4.6 yards per drop back. Mack averaged 4.2 yards per carry. Draw your own conclusions.

No other kicker has his resume though. If there is a better option I'm all for it. But we are not the only team with kicker woes. Reliable clutch kickers are pretty hard to find.

I agree, but the foot in the grass was the main reason that he shanked it, but was his timing thrown off by the slow snap and the fact that he saw the laces facing him?

But, yes he should've made the kick regardless.